should homosexuality be a crime?

[Delbáeth]

A few times in this thread I seen people say, “They should just stay away from me.” This is quite a common opinion of the majority of straight people, but in doing so does this not alienate the homosexuals of the world? Whilst isolating them, it is only natural they would seek others and eventually grow and again gain public notification which we don’t want?

[Sifjar]

Homosexuality is never a crime even in Middle East , it became a crime once you participate on the very act. I'm sure even within the European law, such similarities are practiced, which is, you're allowed to be racist as long your actions doesn't hurt the 3rd party.

[Avarius]

Let me start off with explaining why I think homosexuality is not un-natural and debunk the claims of those who compare Paedophilia etc with homosexulity.

Paedophilia, Zoophilia, and many other -philias, are all paraphilias. The reason they are paraphilias is because they are simply objects of sexual desire - a fetish, if you will. The persons who practice this do not wish for a romantic or emotional relationship with animals or children (which they couldn't anyway, because children are not emotionally developed enough to understand interpersonal relationships and animals, well, go figure).

This is what sets the mentioned philias from homosexuality. Why? Because with homosexuality it's more than wanting men/women sexually, it also involves wanting to have a romantic and emotional relationship with another man/woman. In which other potential homosexual partners can respond with the same desire of sexuality, romance and emotions. And as stated, animals NOR children can respond this way. The same goes for other fetishes like necrophilia (corpses can't respond) so it's simply an object of sexual desire, just like paedophilia and zoophilia.

It's all well and good saying that for a man to have anal sex is un-natural, simply because the rectum involves storing and expelling waste. We can easily say that oral sex is also un-natural, because the mouth is used for eating and vomiting and you cannot reproduce via the mouth. However, it is still practiced widely, simply because it is highly pleasurable. And we all know why oral sex is pleasurable! Just like anal sex is highly pleasurable for homosexuals.

Achieving sexual gratification is not un-natural between two consenting and mutually desiring human men/women, women/women or men/men. The rectum/anus is a natural part of the body, and it just happens to give homosexuals sexual pleasure.

Menydh : You mention that homosexuals receiving their "rights" is infringing on your "rights". I believe in your home country of Spain, same-sex marriage is legal? It's just a chain. Someone is always going to infringe on someone else's rights, and that person who has been infringed upon, will infringe someone else’s rights.

Originally Posted by Avarius

Achieving sexual gratification is not un-natural between two consenting and mutually desiring human men/women, women/women or men/men. The rectum/anus is a natural part of the body, and it just happens to give homosexuals sexual pleasure.

Anti-naturae (or un-natural) does not mean "artificial". Naturae are defined as "self essence as operation principle".

Is it of the animal essence that different sex couples are emotionally and sexually complementary, and it is too in the human essence.

This is clearly an example (and a very common one) of an equivocation fallacy, where nature changes it sense from what I previously defined under the latin voice "naturae" to the sense in the relation natural-artificial.

Homosexuality is not artificial, but it is unnatural, antinatural or anti-naturae.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Avarius

And we all know why oral sex is pleasurable! Just like anal sex is highly pleasurable for homosexuals.

Hardly comparable. Through anal penetration the sphincter is teared off and other infections develope in the rectus. At their old age, many homosexuals have to wear nappies because their sphincter is so stretched that they can't retain.

Plus there is no erogenous zone in the anus. Where is the pleasure? I guess that you've never been constipated? How is it enjoyable?

[M.R.]

It should be banned from public, but making it illegal, well I don't know... I pretty much agree with Marulus, it's an artificial issue and part of much bigger problem, the degeneration of society in Europe in general.

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Menydh

Plus there is no erogenous zone in the anus. Where is the pleasure? I guess that you've never been constipated? How is it enjoyable?

Reminds me of a Danish term for homosexuals: bæskubber.

Stool-thruster literally translated

[Germanicus]

Originally Posted by Lutiferre

Reminds me of a Danish term for homosexuals: bæskubber.

Stool-thruster literally translated

My opinion is this, whatever 2 adult males want to do or have interests in, in the privacy of their own home is their business.
When they take their business outside their home that is our business, as so far we can have an opinion, you either except what they are doing or not..............end of

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Germanicus

My opinion is this, whatever 2 adult males want to do or have interests in, in the privacy of their own home is their business.
When they take their business outside their home that is our business, as so far we can have an opinion, you either except what they are doing or not..............end of

Though maybe the public should be more open about offering help to them. If they have any minimal level of desire to be "normal", which falls natural to most people.

[Germanicus]

Originally Posted by Lutiferre

Though maybe the public should be more open about offering help to them. If they have any minimal level of desire to be "normal", which falls natural to most people.

Since when does a grown man need help in the pursuit of what he needs or desires in life, to be able to function in todays society, and be accepted.
No my friend i have lived in a world devoid of homosexuals here in my little Anglo Saxon backwater.
Britain is by and large a very easy going country, but i feel homosexuality is a ticking bomb. As so far as in the future when the homosexual loses his youth and ages into a middle aged homosexual, who loses the partner, and engages the predator skills of a homosexual pervert.
Are the homosexual perverts who molest our children to be accepted.?

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Avarius

Let me start off with explaining why I think homosexuality is not un-natural and debunk the claims of those who compare Paedophilia etc with homosexulity.

Paedophilia, Zoophilia, and many other -philias, are all paraphilias. The reason they are paraphilias is because they are simply objects of sexual desire - a fetish, if you will. The persons who practice this do not wish for a romantic or emotional relationship with animals or children (which they couldn't anyway, because children are not emotionally developed enough to understand interpersonal relationships and animals, well, go figure).

This is what sets the mentioned philias from homosexuality. Why? Because with homosexuality it's more than wanting men/women sexually, it also involves wanting to have a romantic and emotional relationship with another man/woman. In which other potential homosexual partners can respond with the same desire of sexuality, romance and emotions. And as stated, animals NOR children can respond this way. The same goes for other fetishes like necrophilia (corpses can't respond) so it's simply an object of sexual desire, just like paedophilia and zoophilia.

It's all well and good saying that for a man to have anal sex is un-natural, simply because the rectum involves storing and expelling waste. We can easily say that oral sex is also un-natural, because the mouth is used for eating and vomiting and you cannot reproduce via the mouth. However, it is still practiced widely, simply because it is highly pleasurable. And we all know why oral sex is pleasurable! Just like anal sex is highly pleasurable for homosexuals.

Achieving sexual gratification is not un-natural between two consenting and mutually desiring human men/women, women/women or men/men. The rectum/anus is a natural part of the body, and it just happens to give homosexuals sexual pleasure.

Don't you think that engaging in such pointless explanations, which can eventually develop into discussions, where detailful descriptions of fornicating on corpses would be given and then compared with homosexual practices, or about whether only excrement belongs to rectum or also sperm, or on oral penetration etc - don't you think engaging in talk on such irrelevant, but also repellent, matters is a bit .... errr... unhealthy? You come to a nationalist board and your first post deals with such repulsive subjects nobody is really interested in here? Go somewhere else, to some pornographic-fetishistic-sadomasochistic website and discuss with your spiritual brethren there on these so "important" issues.

Originally Posted by Avarius

Menydh : You mention that homosexuals receiving their "rights" is infringing on your "rights". I believe in your home country of Spain, same-sex marriage is legal? It's just a chain. Someone is always going to infringe on someone else's rights, and that person who has been infringed upon, will infringe someone else’s rights.

Relativism is a serious philosophical position, which has to be explained more eloquently and with more arguments and not with just few cheap catch-phrases like: "What's good for me, isn't good for you..." and similar verbal excrement of the modern worthless liberal society.

The fact that something is legalized does not mean it is right. Law is not to be confused with morality, in a sense that good would be equated with legal and evil with illegal.