should homosexuality be a crime?

[Ostrogorski]

Originally Posted by A Few Acres of Snow

The best thing to tell Vegetarians is that Hitler was one them as well. He was also strict about having a smoke-free workplace. They can do what they wish with this information, but it's true. If they don't like it they can return to the Planet Vegetaria.

Vegetarianism of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hitler was vegan?????hahaha...

he also liked dogs,so anyone who likes dogs is a Hitler in disguise

[Susi]

And the Nazis discovered that smoking causes lung cancer.

Anyone who agrees with that statement is obviously a Nazi.

[Theobald]

Well, homosexuality is already a crime in my Holy book...

-"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Leviticus 18:22

[swordjumper]

Originally Posted by Theobald

Well, homosexuality is already a crime in my Holy book...

-"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Leviticus 18:22

I take it you also believe anyone who curses his father or mother shall be put to death (Leviticus20:9) Also if a man commits adultery with a woman (Lev20:10)and if also anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord shall be put to death by stoning (Levit24:16) ???

[Susi]

I take it you find it difficult to respect others' religious beliefs.

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by swordjumper

I take it you also believe anyone who curses his father or mother shall be put to death (Leviticus20:9)

Not put to death of course. But I respect my father, and especially my mother above everything, and respect for the parents is something that should - in my opinion - be a pillar of a new European society. It is so evident that I should not even have to say that. Nowadays we see where laxism has leaded us... I don't take Biblic statements litterally, but they are like guidelines, spiritual and moral advice.
I also think that adultery is not something "in", rather a reprehensible behaviour, fidelity is a pillar of my view of morals, and indeed insulting all religions and Gods - or making fun of them - is not a clever thing to me (I said ALL : that's why I never insult anyone's religion, even Muslims, Jews, ...).

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Susi

I take it you find it difficult to respect others' religious beliefs.

Was it directed to swordjumper or to me ?

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Susi

I take it you find it difficult to respect others' religious beliefs.

Some religous belief's shouldn't be respected. Particularly Islam and other such religions that call for forcibul convertion of the world's entire population by any means possible (that's what the Quran says- it's ok to lie, cheat, murder and steal if it is aimed at converting some one). Would you really think that things like death cults, evangelists, and other sick twiste "new-age" religions should be respected?

[Susi]

Ehhhh.. there's a line. I respect if I am respected.

If I am not respected, I show contempt.

And I don't respect Wicca at all (on "new age" religions)... they have consistently been disrespectful of me and my fellow Asatruar as well as of many other religious beliefs...

Death cults, I don't count as religion.. Evangelists, eh, I guess they're alright, but I don't really give half a crap If they are insulting, again, I will not respect them.

And if some Islamic lies, cheats, murders, and steals, even with his religious justification, I will not respect him either.

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Originally Posted by Susi

Ehhhh.. there's a line. I respect if I am respected.

If I am not respected, I show contempt.

And I don't respect Wicca at all (on "new age" religions)... they have consistently been disrespectful of me and my fellow Asatruar as well as of many other religious beliefs...

Death cults, I don't count as religion.. Evangelists, eh, I guess they're alright, but I don't really give half a crap If they are insulting, again, I will not respect them.

And if some Islamic lies, cheats, murders, and steals, even with his religious justification, I will not respect him either.

I don't see any reason why true Christians and decent, serious pagans coudn't co-exist in future Europe. But that doesn't overshadow the fact that European culture is predominantly Christian (European Christendom having absorbed, throughout history, many pagan elements as well). The great majority of Europeans will always be Christians...

As for wierdo cults, there are everywhere such monstrosities, not only "pagan" (Wicca etc.) but some of them also in "Christian" clothing...

Islam: I have nothing against it as long as they practice it in their own lands.

[Susi]

I agree with you, prometheus. The problem is, that out of all the pagans in "Western Pagandom" (I guess that encompasses "Wicca" as well), maybe 2-3%, in my opinion, are serious. Maybe more are decent though... Of course I haven't met all of pagandom.

Actually, I was recently banned from the local pagan group . They made up some quotation that I never uttered and said that my godhi (priest) said it to the guy who used to be our jarl (leader) but we decided we didn't want him to do it anymore because he paid no attention to the group, and he reacted childishly (having power in the local pagan webgroup). Susi stirs up shit, apparently.

I think all the "cults" are the same kind of people...

And agreed on Islam. We can cooperate as long as they do not try to take everything over...

[Aeternitas]

I don't think there are really benefits from making it a crime? Jailing homosexuals over their orientation wouldn't garantee changing when they get back in society. After all, they'd be spending time among males exclusively. To force them to reproduce is wrong too IMO, also considering I've read that the sexual orientation of the parents can influence that of their children.
What I have a problem with is privileging people over their homosexual orientation, having their homosexuality shoved down other people's throats and projecting the homosexual model on others. See for example Use of ‘Mom’ and ‘Dad’ Too “Homophobic”, Scottish Nurses Told.

As for asexuality, it is the lack of sexual attraction. I don't see why it should be outlawed either, and how would it be controlled anyway? Have sex or else? Asexuals are capable too of having intimate relationships and even children.

[Holden Caulfield]

No - making it illegal is a bit too much. And locking them up in close confinement with hundreds of other men (and, as more homosexuals were imprisoned, other homosexuals) would do very little to help the situation.

What should be made a crime is the way that homosexuality is promoted and encouraged these days. Gay pride marches, gay bars etc all need to cease (although the sudden influx of homosexuals into pubs/clubs where heterosexuals predominate may rattle some cages).

[Marka Ragnos]

Homosexuality should be illegal, just like any pro-homosexual propaganda too.

[mysr]

i think it would be a crime to adopt children and married eachother but its their choice if they want to live together

[Menydh]

And what about the display of homosexualism in public places?

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

And what about the display of homosexualism in public places?

It's totally unacceptable. It means promoting disease.