Spanish protest gay marriage

[Pedro]

MADRID, Spain (AP) -- Hundreds of thousands of people led by 20 Roman Catholic bishops and conservative opposition leaders clogged downtown Madrid on Saturday in a demonstration against the Socialist government's bill to legalize gay marriage and permit gay couples to adopt children.

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[bocian]

Opinion polls indicate a majority of Spaniards support the bill.

Why?



Is it apathy or empathy?

[Waarnemer]

I personnaly don't have a problem with gay marriage, i don't gonna tell two adults how to behave and to make sexual choices even if i don't agree with it. But giving adoptionrights for gays is crossing over a fundamental moral line.

[Ferran]

Sometimes ten pictures can say more than thousand words...

[Menydh]

I drove to Madrid to attend the march, and while on road I had to overtakes lots of coaches and private cars going from Valencia to Madrid. Something extremely unusual for a hot June Saturday, when people drive in the opposite direction, away from Madrid and towards the coastal areas.

When I arrived in Madrid at around 12.30pm, it was 38ºC outside the car!!! People came from many parts of Spain, and even other parts of Europe. I could see in front of us a French three colour flag with the sacre coeur in the middle of it.

Lots of young, middle-aged, and elder couples, many with young children. Lots of yound people too. Unlike the gay and/or leftist marches, it was so civilized and clean.

No matter what will be next, I, as a Spaniard, am so very proud of all those people. They stood there despite the harsh and dry temperatures of Madrid, so many had arrived from far away. It was really nice to see all those people, so nice, such a good feeling among all of them. Those little children sitting on the floor while their parents stood next to them, waiting for the march to start moving... which it did not because the streets marked by the governmen for the march were completely packed from one end to the other.

When the header of the the March was already in Puerta del Sol, the end of it, I looked down the street (Calle de Alcalá, one of the widest in Madrid) and it was full to the last centimeter, and then down to Plaza (square) de la Cibeles, which was full too and people even spread into the Castellana avenue, and further down the street completely full, down to Puerta de Alcalá, another square, also full to the last centimeter. Someone told me that there were people beyond that last square, and I witnessed that there were many people in the adjacent streets.

Yes, the organizers gave a rough number of 1.5 million people, whereas the official figures were of... 166,000!!! From what I saw, 1.5 million is more exact, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were more people than that.

The government, as expected, did as much as it could to avoid the success. When they had failed at it, they resorted to their usual last argument, lying. They are so acccustomed to it that their lies are no longer small to medium.. as you can all see.

Some coaches coming from the west into Madrid were diverted by the police to Toledo. They had done that in the previous march. The streets that the march organizers had been given at first for the march, were then changed and given, instead to a distasteful carnival organized with some sort of ape-like brazilian singing and dancing. A friend of mine went to a policeman to ask him what the approximate number of people had been, just after the march, and she only go a rude, stupid and arrogant answer from him. She tackled him and gave him an excellent answer in return. Even the other policemen laughed at him. Good girl!

For this kind of events, there are always a number of paramedic hot spots spread along the area for the march, especially with such high temperatures. I saw none. I asked some peple from the organisation for the paramedics, they told me that there were a few "mobile" units, and asked if we needed medical help. I said no, but what if we did... they shrugged.

For the carnival, who were people mostly dressed with shorts and tshirts to nothing, the fire brigade was deployed with water cannons to refresh them. Nothing for us. Only the implacable sun of the Castilian high plateau, and a strong will to stay. Who cares about the many children, or elder people like my mother and her friends who don't go naked like apes but decently dressed.

After the march, we went for some drinks with some fellows from Barcelona, Madrid and other parts of Spain. Nice and refreshing.
At night, the wide avenue Paseo de la Castellana was blocked by some fourty degenerated sodomites. I tried to cross with my car but the metropolitan police stopped me. Though I knew that the government had made public that the police forces would watch out for any "offensive" words against "gays", I asked him why did they not remove the "maricones" (faggots, though offensive it is in the dictionary of the Royal Academy). The policeman smiled, shrugged, and told me that they were only 4. Ha! How come they are never 4 when it is us? The road where they were was full of dirt... plastic glasses and other filth on the middle of the road.

All people who attended have my full respect, and I would also like to thank here those non Spaniards who came to support the march from lands far afield. June 18, to me, should be remembered as the day of the family.

I'll hang some photos after I have masked some faces.

[Menydh]

Opinion polls indicate a majority of Spaniards support the bill.

Bullshit!

While driving towards Madrid, I was listening at the radio station of the Catholic Conference. No matter if you are not a Catholic, it is the only one big radio which is telling the whole truth and facing the government.

Two homosexuals had called the station. One said that, though he was a homosexual, he did not agree with gay marriage and possibility of adoption, since he had had a mother and wouldn't dare to deprive a child from such treasury. I'm not surprised from his words. The other went further and said that, being a homosexual, he was aware that his world was extremely promiscous and not the right place to raise a child.

Other homosexuals, however, had been calling the organisation for the defense of the family to insult, and even to threathen them.


The media in Spain is totally controlled and manipulated, and so are those polls.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by TseBbe

I personnaly don't have a problem with gay marriage

Marriage is the union of one man and one woman, and the procreation and raise of children.

They can do a civil union if so they wish.

[bocian]

It would be shame if these polls were correct, and I have a hard time believing them as well.

Either way, great to see Spaniards standing up for their Nation.

[Menydh]

According to some news site, the counter-march in Madrid was of only 300 and of 3,000 in Barcelona. Good!

[Strengthandhonour]

This news warm my heart for sure. Beatiful photographs. I like how it is organized and there is even children there. But I have a little story about this. A close friend of my father's who is Spaniard, found out he had a gay son. He is extremely anti-homosexual but he just decided to let it slide a little since it's his son. He just told his son to make him a promess, to not have sexual relationship within his house because neither him nor god permited it.
The son agreed. And guess what happened? the son had relationships with a man in the house and the father caught him. He obviously beat them both up and kicked them out of his house. He now refers to his son as a "Maricon abanderado"(Homosexual with a flag) because he is always going to protest and he can't bare the shame and humiliation.
This is just an example of how homosexuality is destroying families today. I guess I don't have a problem with them as long as they keep it to themselves and don't demostrate it infront of young children. Them adopting children is completely unnaceptable to any civilized society.