Israeli media and the war against Croatia

[Defensor Fidei]

Israeli media and the war against Croatia

From the very beginning of the disintegration of Yugoslavia, the Israeli media tended to take a clearly pro-Serbian stand. This was true of reports on what was going on, but was particularly pronounced in attempts to analyze and interpret the developments. There was no trace of sympathy for the attacked as against the aggressor, for the defenseless civilian population on the receiving end of the artillery, navy and air force of the Serbian war machine, which one might have expected and thought natural. Moreover, an invidious policy seemed to be at work in the op. ed. pages: there was no end to letters to the editor and opinion articles that took a pro-Serbian position, while the number of pieces showing sympathy for Serbia's victims was negligible. I have not done research on this, but do know that the Jerusalem Post - a leading Israeli daily, particularly important in this contest because it is published in English - which has carried numerous pro-Serbian letters to the editor and opinion articles, refused to publish quite a few letters and articles that expressed sympathy for Slovenia, Croatia, or Bosnia-Herzegovina. Thus it was adding insult to injury when a member of the Serbian lobby in Israel, writing in the same paper, found it "remarkable that of the 12,000 to 15,000 Yugoslav Jews and their descendants living in Israel today, many raise their voices on behalf of Serbia, but not a single one has a good word to say about Croatia. The activity of the Serbian lobby should probably be seen as part of the explanation. The lobby is an informal one, but is very well organized and financed, and includes some well-known media personalities. Enjoying an uncontested monopoly on analyzing, explaining, and interpreting the events in the ex-Yugoslavia well into the summer of 1992, it employed all the main methods the regime in Belgrade has been using in putting across at home and abroad what the Serbs call "the Serbian truth": flatly denying the facts, no matter how obvious; diminishing the dimensions of the devastation the Serbs were wreaking on neighboring republics and the numbers of casualties; explaining away the reports of Serbian atrocities by the "anti-Serbian tendencies" of Western media or, alternatively, as the propaganda of those who stood in the way of Greater Serbia. The Serbian lobby also adopted all the main tenets of Belgrade propaganda, insisting that the current war was to be understood as a direct continuation of World War II in Yugoslavia, spreading the Serbian revision of its history, and drawing far-reaching moral and political conclusions from these premises.
In a typical article, the author deplored the fact that when World War II was over, Tito did not permit "mass pogroms [of Croats] which would have drenched liberated Yugoslavia in another bloodbath." and "put on trial only those who [had] perpetrated war crimes." The inevitable conclusion was that the current mass pogroms of Croats at the hands of Chetniks and the "Federal" army were sheer justice, long overdue. In another article, we were told that any unpleasant connotations of the word Chetnik was due to Croatian propaganda. Conventional Yugoslav history has it that it was the Partisans led by Tito and the Communist Party who fought the German, Italian, and other occupying armies and their local allies, such as Croat Ustashe and Serb Chetniks, and against overwhelming odds achieved what no one else in Europe could: the liberation of their country by themselves, rather than by the Allied forces. Now we learn that it was Chetniks, not the "Partisans" (the quotation marks are the writer's), who were true freedom fighters. The Chetniks of today are freedom Fighters too, defending the right of the Serbs "to stay what they are, keeping their heritage... unmolested and together," rather than being a minority in any place. "Surely" we [the Jews] of all people should feel sympathetic to this sentiment," the writer says in conclusion.This call tor Jewish sympathy and support for the Chetniks was published at the time world media were reporting in some detail how Chetniks were rounding up Muslim civilians in the towns and villages of eastern Bosnia, from Foca in the south all the way to Zvornik and further north, massacring them (mostly by cutting their throats with knives), and throwing the bodies into the Drina, thus repeating the same things World War II Chetniks had done throughout the region.

http://www.hr/darko/etf/is2.html

[Slavni]

Or maybe http://www.compuserb.com/sacru/

[Defensor Fidei]

Originally Posted by Slavni

Or maybe http://www.compuserb.com/sacru/

Or maybe : http://www.srpska-mreza.com/

[Slavni]

Originally Posted by Defensor Fidei

Or maybe : http://www.srpska-mreza.com/

They are some minor antifa bunch of idiots(comparing jewish Nato with Nazis ).I'm talking about facts on compuserb

[Defensor Fidei]

We are pleased to announce that one of our articles got published in the influential Israeli periodical Arutz Sheva.
We, Serbian-American editors of Srpska Mreza insist on strengthening History-long good relationship between Serbian and Jewish people. Our bond is a strong one. For centuries, the suffering of our two peoples is the same. Our enemies are the same. Intolerance, racism, Nazis and Islam fundamentalists are our common enemy. Mass graves where Jews and Serbs are buried together stretch all across ex-Yugoslavia and are the proof of our common suffering and our eternal bond.
It is our intention to warn all people of good will about the undying danger of Nazism and Islam fanaticism. It is also our intention to educate all other peoples about the trickery the Western powers implemented in order to destroy Yugoslavia, because it was these powers and their endless imperial greed that brought misery and destruction to multi-ethnic Yugoslavia. While pretending to be concerned about peace and human rights it was the Western powers who organized and supported Nazi and Islam fundamentalist forces in their act of destruction.
Please read our article "Serbian Condolences for the Life of Arafat" published by Arutz Sheva today, November 19, 2004. (Please, follow this link).

Please read our articles on common suffering of the Serbian and Jewish people. (Please, follow this link).

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/

[Defensor Fidei]

Serbs and Jews

JEWISH LITERATURE

While talking about the horrors of the Holocaust, Jewish literature tends to be ethnocentric. It is understandable to a certain degree. Still, when talking about suffering in Yugoslavia, all of the literature talks with one voice about "Serbs and Jews"... For Jews and Serbs the destiny was the same.

"Encyclopedia of The Holocaust"
In many volumes of this book one can find many references on suffering of Serbs and Jews in Yugoslavia. Just look for: Croatia, Serbia, Jasenovac, Pavelic, Hussein al-, ... In the chapter on Croatia it says: "THE USTASHA REGIME IN CROATIA, AND PARTICULARLY THIS DRIVE IN THE SUMMER OF 1941 TO EXTERMINATE AND DISPOSSESS THE SERBS, WAS ONE OF THE MOST HORRENDOUS EPISODES OF WORLD WAR II . THE MURDER METHODS APPLIED BY THE USTASHA WERE EXTRAORDINARILY PRIMITIVE AND SADISTIC."

(Professor) Martin Gilbert: "The Holocaust"
This historian, the official biographer of Winston Churchill says: "in Yugoslavia, Hitler had an ideological and physical ally in the Croat Ustashi movement..."

(Professor) Helen Fein: "Accounting for Genocide"
This renowned historian says:"[Already] by June 1941, signs on public establishments [in Nazi Independent State of Croatia] read, NO SERBS, JEWS, NOMADS, AND DOGS ALLOWED. She clearly states:"...Nonpartisan sources agree that mass genocide was authorized by the state of Croatia. They concur the state instigated, planned, and executed masses against the Serbian Orthodox minority ...and that the Catholic clergy approved, led, or failed to denounce these massacres."

(Professor) Raul Hilberg: "The Destruction of the European Jews"
This is probably the best known book on the Jewish holocaust. It consists of two large volumes.
Briefly, this is what Dr. Hilberg says: Since April 1941, Serbia was under German occupation. But proud Serbs could never stand oppression. Soon they started uprising. Unlike anywhere else in occupied Europe, angry Nazi Germans invented 1:100 formula. For every German soldier killed 100 civilian hostages would be executed. Jewish male population was first among the hostages. Croatian Ustashi then finished (by use of gas vans) Jewish women and children of Serbia. This is how German Nazi commander of occupied Serbia could brag that "Jewish question in Serbia was solved".
In Fascist-Catholic Independent State of Croatia, Croat fascists eagerly and bestially exterminate Serbs (in the first place), Jews and Gypsies. Not only did Nazi Croats surpassed Nazi Germans and Fascist Italians - they shocked them with the bestial methods they implemented. It was Fascist Italians that tried to stop Ustashi bloody bacchanalia.

(Professor) Susan Zuccotti:"The Italians and the Holocaust - Persecution, Rescue, Survival" (New York, 1987)

Dr. Nora Levin:"The Holocaust"
The author reminds us:"The Ustashi were fanatics bent on the destruction of both Serbs and Jews... [They] murdered and tortured Jews and Serbs in indescribably bestial fashion. One of the most notorious camps in Hitler's Europe, Jasenovac, was in Croatia. Here the Ustashi used primitive implements in putting their victims to death - knives, axes, hammers and other iron tools... One source estimates that 770,000 Serbs, 40,000 Gypsies and 20,000 Jews were done to death in the Jasenovac camp [alone]."

Michael R. Marrus: "The Holocaust in History"
While talking about the Nazi satellites, the author says:"The overall level of violence was highest in Croatia, where Pavelic's Ustasha movement devised the most thoroughly totalitarian state of any satellite and pursued a merciless, bloody assault on the country's two million Serbs..."

(Professor) Clive Ponting: "Armageddon"
This historian and politician says: "The greatest ethnic slaughter took place as Yugoslavia was carved up after the German invasion in April 1941. The creation of a separate Croatia ... controlled by the fascist, Catholic, extremist Ustasha movement was the catalyst for the tragedy... Now, historic Croatia was expanded to include Bosnia-Herzegovina and other teritories, and the Ustasha were left ... to govern a population of nearly 7 million people, of whom about half were Croats, just over 2 million were Serbs, about 750,000 were Muslims, and small numbers were Protestants and Jews.... The Minister of Education, Mile Budak, made clear the Ustasha aims: "Our new Croatia will get rid of all Serbs in our midst in order to become one hundred percent Catholic within ten years." He spoke of killing a third of the Serbs, converting a third, and expelling the remainder. The leader of the Ustasha, Ante Pavelic, said,"A good Ustasha is one who can use his knife to cut a child from the womb of its mother." (end quote).

Dr. Ronnie S. Landau: "The Nazi Holocaust"
In Yugoslav Croatia, too, there is evidence that officials of the Orthodox Church [that is - the Serbs] pleaded with the authorities [that is to the Nazi Croats - Ustashi] to curtail the vicious treatment meted out to both Orthodox Serbs and Jews.

Major Richard L. Felman
One of more than 500 American Airmen rescued by the Serbs during WWII says: "Many Serbs risked their lives during World War II to save countless Jews from Nazi death camps. This is something we can never forget and for which I and The Jewish People will always be grateful."

Gottlieb Hlinko:"Kaddish in the Serbian Forest" -"The Massacre of European Jewry: An Antology" (Israel: Kibbutz Merchavia, 1963)





JEWISH REACTION TO THE CURRENT EVENTS



Some Jews still remember...

They shared our fate
"As Jews, we do indeed have a historical obligation to the Serbs" says Mr. Joseph Lapid, a columnist and editorial writer for"Ma'ariv" a leading Hebrew daily.

\'Eden\' of Sarajevo disappeared during WWII
Says Dr. Alfred Lipson, a Senior Researcher at Holocaust Resource Center and Archives, Queensborough Community College of the City University of New York, Bayside, N.Y.

Serbs, Jews and Bosnia
Professor John Ranz, Chairperson Survivors of the Buchenwald Concentration Camp reminds us of the basic history of the region.

A plan bad to the bone
Dr. Reich, the Director of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington protests Croatian plan to mix the bones of the Holocaust's victims in Croatia with those of its perpetrators.

Fascism is alive and well in Croatia
Professor Howard L. Adelson says "Today Ustashi murderers are being rehabilitated and are being extolled as national heroes by Tudjman despite the fact that they were among the most brutal villains [of WWII]."

The Serbian soldiers - utterly truthful and honorable
...says Herb Brin, the oldest working American journalist and adds: "the decision to bomb the Serb position in Bosnia breaks my heart".

U.S. Jews and the Balkan Situation
Mr. Alvin Dorfman and Mrs. Heather Cottin explain how major Jewish organizations got to spread government anti-Serb propaganda.

Shame, shame, shame!
Charley Reese: "No sin blots American politics today more than the betrayal of the Serbs. No one ought to be more ashamed of U.S. treatment of the Serbs than American Jews."

Jewish motives
Dr. Yohanan Ramati, the Director of The Jerusalem Institute for Western Defence explains mentality of diaspora Jews. How did they alow to be duped.

An open letter to the American Jewish Commitee
Mr. Danon Cadik, the chief Rabbi of Yugoslavia, et. al., pleads for justice.

Set your records straight!
Mr. Jasa Almuli, past President of the Jewish Community of Belgrade and past Vice-President of Jewish Communities in Yugoslavia, pleads for truth.

The Serbs had for ever won a place in the hearts of the Jews
"We the surviving Jews of Serbia have for them respect and understanding. We know that the basic motive of their recent rebellion in secessionist Croatia and Bosnia and Hercegovina were their distrust and deep apprehension after they have been slaughtered in the Nazi era by the Croat Ustashas and Muslim SS..." says Dr. Aleksandar Mosic, Former Deputy President, Federation of Jewish Communities in Yugoslavia.

Serbs are our brothers in soul
"A media Auschwitz, was perpetrated on the Serbian people! The Serbs were dehumanized and portrayed as monsters exactly as the Jews were portrayed through centuries. Do not participate in persecution of the Serbs. They are our brothers. They are people who share the same destiny with us, the Jewish people." says Professor and composer Enriko Josif.

60 Minutes...more yellow journalism on Bosnia!
An open letter by Mrs. Sandy Marquette a Jew from Chicago.

The European Hoodlum Democracy Will Not Break the Serbs
Dr. Klara Mandic, a senior Belgrade Jewish community leader explains the Serbian motives.

America in the Eye of a Hurricane
Dr. Henry Kissinger reminds us that Bosnia had never been an independent state and warns us that long American tradition of support to self-determination has been betrayed.

[Slavni]

But i still don't understand why ALL zog-govs support Croatia?

[Defensor Fidei]

Originally Posted by Slavni

But i still don't understand why ALL zog-govs support Croatia?

States with which Croatia has established diplomatic relations :

AustriaJanuary 15, 1992GermanyJanuary 15, 1992ItalyJanuary 17, 1992HungaryJanuary 18, 1992SwedenJanuary 29, 1992SwitzerlandJanuary 30, 1992DenmarkFebruary 1, 1992PortugalFebruary 3, 1992LiechtensteinFebruary 4, 1992SloveniaFebruary 6, 1992Holy SeeFebruary 8, 1992The NetherlandsFebruary 11, 1992AustraliaFebruary 13, 1992LatviaFebruary 14, 1992UkraineFebruary 18, 1992FinlandFebruary 19, 1992NorwayFebruary 20, 1992New ZealandFebruary 25, 1992EstoniaMarch 2, 1992SpainMarch 9, 1992BelgiumMarch 10, 1992ParaguayMarch 13, 1992LithuaniaMarch 18, 1992MacedoniaMarch 30, 1992PolandApril 11, 1992ArgentinaApril 13, 1992ChileApril 15, 1992IranApril 18, 1992FranceApril 24, 1992LuxembourgApril 29, 1992MalaysiaMay 4, 1992People\'s Republic of ChinaMay 13, 1992Russian FederationMay 25, 1992United Arab EmiratesJune 23, 1992United KingdomJune 24, 1992MoroccoJune 26, 1992IcelandJune 30, 1992MaltaJune 30, 1992IndiaJuly 9, 1992SudanJuly 17, 1992GreeceJuly 20, 1992MoldovaJuly 20, 1992Bosnia and HerzegovinaJuly 21, 1992United States of AmericaAugust 11, 1992BulgariaAugust 13, 1992AlbaniaAugust 25, 1992TurkeyAugust 26, 1992RomaniaAugust 29, 1992IndonesiaSeptember 3, 1992ThailandSeptember 9, 1992CubaSeptember 23, 1992BelarusSeptember 25, 1992EgyptOctober 1, 1992VenezuelaOctober 9, 1992AlgeriaOctober 15, 1992KazakhstanOctober 20, 1992South KoreaNovember 18, 1992South AfricaNovember 19, 1992SingaporeNovember 23, 1992BoliviaNovember 26, 1992North KoreaNovember 30, 1992QatarDecember 5, 1992MexicoDecember 6, 1992Sovereign Military Order of MaltaDecember 22, 1992GuatemalaDecember 22, 1992BrazilDecember 23, 1992Czech RepublicJanuary 1, 1993Slovak RepublicJanuary 1, 1993NigeriaJanuary 7, 1993PeruJanuary 12, 1993YemenJanuary 17, 1993BahrainJanuary 18, 1993TunisiaJanuary 30, 1993Republic of GeorgiaFebruary 1, 1993CyprusFebruary 4, 1993San MarinoFebruary 11, 1993GhanaFebruary 17, 1993PhilippinesFebruary 25, 1993JapanMarch 5, 1993MongoliaMarch 10, 1993CanadaApril 14, 1993UruguayMay 4, 1993São Tomé and PríncipeMay 23, 1993TanzaniaJuly 2, 1993TogoDecember 20, 1993TongaDecember 20, 1993SamoaMarch 8, 1994JordanJune 29, 1994VietnamJuly 1, 1994ArmeniaJuly 8, 1994PakistanJuly 20, 1994KuwaitAugust 10, 1994Cape VerdeAugust 13, 1994Saint Vincent and the GrenadinesOctober 7, 1994AngolaNovember 16, 1994LebanonDecember 5, 1994AzerbaijanJanuary 26, 1995IrelandJanuary 27, 1995UzbekistanFebruary 6, 1995ColombiaApril 25, 1995AndorraApril 28, 1995Burkina FasoMay 18, 1995Saudi ArabiaJune 8, 1995MaliSeptember 20, 1995ZambiaSeptember 20, 1995Côte D\'IvoireOctober 17, 1995EthiopiaOctober 17, 1995Guinea-BissauOctober 19, 1995Costa RicaOctober 19, 1995AfghanistanJanuary 3, 1996BelizeJanuary 23, 1996EcuadorFebruary 22, 1996LaosMarch 4, 1996NicaraguaMarch 29, 1996PanamaJune 12, 1996TurkmenistanJuly 2, 1996MozambiqueAugust 23, 1996Serbia and MontenegroSeptember 9, 1996CambodiaSeptember 10, 1996JamaicaOctober 9, 1996KyrgyzstanDecember 23, 1996Sri LankaFebruary 14, 1997MaldivesApril 8, 1997El SalvadorJuly 24, 1997MauritiusSeptember 3, 1997IsraelSeptember 4, 1997SeychellesSeptember 30, 1997SenegalOctober 1, 1997Saint LuciaDecember 10, 1997SurinameDecember 17, 1997NepalFebruary 6, 1998The GambiaOctober 16, 1998LesothoNovember 6, 1998UgandaMarch 10, 1999EritreaJune 4, 1999ComorosJune 29, 1999MyanmarSeptember 3, 1999ChadSeptember 17, 1999Antigua and BarbudaSeptember 20, 1999HondurasSeptember 20, 1999GrenadaMay 19, 2000NauruDecember 14, 2000BeninMarch 26, 2001GabonOctober 22, 2001MauritaniaNovember 11, 2004IraqJanuary 5, 2005

[Slavni]

ZOG-Govs I wrote,slaves of Israel.

[Hrvoje]

Serbian Network: History-long good relationship between Serbian and Jewish people

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Serbia-Israel in same boat

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Jews condemned the NATO action and called for the HELP to the Serbs:

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Israel to supply Milosevic with arms

The (Serbian) Wish to be a Jew : The Power of the Jewish Trope in the Yugoslav Conflict (PDF)

Jasenovac Research Institute

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Slavni

But i still don't understand why ALL zog-govs support Croatia?

Originally Posted by Slavni

ZOG-Govs I wrote,slaves of Israel.

What the heck is zog? Some Albanian bird?

[Loorberitega Pärjatu]

Well, my dear Croatian friends, we're in the same boat here. Both in the "black list" of Efraim Zuroff. Police officers, freedom fighters and anti-communists called "nazi killers" etc. We have this Harry Männil case:

Wiesenthal Center accuses Estonian

The Simon Wiesenthal Center, an organization that hunts Nazi war criminals, on 20 March sent a letter to the head of the Estonian government calling for an investigation into the activities of Venezuela-based businessman Harry Männil during the Second World War. Männil, 81, an Estonian citizen, has repeatedly denied the allegations made by the organization that he committed crimes against Jews.
Harry Männil was the only Estonian on the list of 18 alleged Baltic Nazi collaborators. The Wiesenthal Center sent the list on 20 March to the Venezuelan government, asking for assistance in determining the whereabouts of 14 Lithuanians, three Latvians and one Estonian.
The Wiesenthal Center claims Männil served in the local police for four months in Estonia during the Nazi occupation and that he played a role in the death of at least 100 Jews.
Männil admits he worked for the security police, but said he was mainly doing paperwork, never actively taking part in operations. He said the security police were mainly targeting collaborators and agents of the Soviet NKVD, predecessor of the KGB. "I have great respect for the Wiesenthal Center, but I'm frustrated that so respected an organization is accusing me," said Männil, who was in Tallinn for an art awards ceremony.
Estonian national security police have twice declared in past years that they have found no evidence of Männil's involvement in war crimes, or crimes against humanity, perpetrated in Estonia during the Second World War.

Let us be strong!