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Foreign Ministry submits Holocaust education bill to UNESCO

By MARISSA LEVY

More than 60 years after the Holocaust, the Foreign Ministry is working to keep the Nazi genocide at the forefront of international consciousness.

The ministry submitted a resolution to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization this week calling for the creation of a UNESCO-sponsored curriculum to teach students around the world about the Holocaust and its role in history.

The Holocaust Remembrance resolution, proposed by the ministry's Division of International Organizations, aims to preserve the memory of the Holocaust while preventing its denial.

"There's a need for UNESCO, as the main organ of education at the United Nations, to be active in commemorating the Holocaust," said division head Orli Gil. "It's not just about memorials and ceremonies. [UNESCO] will take it further, to schools and research institutions around the world."

UNESCO will vote on the draft resolution at its 34th General Conference, which started Tuesday and runs through November 3.

According to the ministry, 70 countries from every continent, including one Arab state, support the bill.

"Despite the advent of a new Holocaust denier, in the form of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the ministry has registered a unique diplomatic achievement prior to the opening of the UNESCO General Conference expected to adopt the resolution," the ministry said in a statement.

Gil said the ministry expected the initiative to be ratified by the end of the month.

The Holocaust Remembrance resolution is part of an ongoing campaign by the ministry to keep the memory of the Holocaust alive through association with the UN and its multilateral institutions.

In 2005, the UN established International Holocaust Memorial Day on January 27, the anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz death camp. In 2006, the international body passed a resolution condemning Holocaust denial.

"With time, the living witnesses to the Holocaust will disappear, and we need to have a very strong notion of the Holocaust, especially among the different nations who do not know much about it," Gil said. "We wish to have Holocaust awareness as widespread as possible."

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Part of me welcomes this kind of thing. Maybe if it becomes mandatory to carry a Certificate of Holocaust Education at all times, or it becomes illegal to even get a fishing licence without proof of anti-Holocaust training, then people will finally say "Enough!".
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People would be wise to be read up about the 'cattle cars', the planned 'systematic murder', the leather products made out of human skin, the 'poisonous injections', the 'bloodthirsty bloodhounds', etc, etc, accusations of which were surrounded with much talk about 'crimes against humanity' and cries of 'never forget'. Those charges made decades before 1900 by the United States, the country which would be the presiding power at Nuremburg, and which resulted in the execution of a man, are now generally acknowledged to have been...rubbish.


Of the giant wrongs which they [the Jewish people] have been subjected for the last ten centuries, the huge Andersonville outrages, few readers need to be reminded.

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Who can estimate the reparation which Christendom owes this interesting and unoffending people? How abundant, how untiring, should be our charity in judging the faults of character which our own superstition has created or developed!

Of the giant wrongs which they [the Jewish people] have been subjected for the last ten centuries, the huge Andersonville outrages, few readers need to be reminded. In the slaughter of the Jews of Seville, in 1391, thirty-five hundred families were murdered. In 1492, under Ferdinand and Isabella, three hundred thousand heroic Israelites preferred exile to apostasy. Many of them found a resting place only in the grave or in the depths of the sea; for neither Portugal nor Italy nor Mohammedan Morrocco would tolerate the presence of a people who would not comply with their superstitions, and who, by their frugality, continence, and industry, absorbed the wealth of every country in which they lived...
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It Laid the Ground for the War Crimes Tribunals...

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"'The anonymous martyrs of the concentration camps are the symbols of humanity that is striving to be born. The task of philosophy is to translate what they have done into language that will be heard, even though their finite voices have been silenced by tyranny.'"

Max Horkheimer, The eclipse of Reason, 1947.
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"'The anonymous martyrs of the concentration camps are the symbols of humanity that is striving to be born. The task of philosophy is to translate what they have done into language that will be heard, even though their finite voices have been silenced by tyranny.'"

Max Horkheimer, The eclipse of Reason, 1947.
In other words he is claiming to speak for the victims who had never heard of him and would likely disagree with everything the Frankfurt School put forward.
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In other words he is claiming to speak for the victims who had never heard of him and would likely disagree with everything the Frankfurt School put forward.
In fact, I posted this quote as a corroboration of thesis that the official narrative of the Holocaust serves as one of the ideological cornerstones of the modern, post-World-War-Two, politico-military-ideological world order (especially that of the "West"), in fact, its founding narrative.
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In fact, I posted this quote as a corroboration of thesis that the official narrative of the Holocaust serves as one of the ideological cornerstones of the modern, post-World-War-Two, politico-military-ideological world order (especially that of the "West"), in fact, its founding narrative.
It is important to point out though that the official Holocaust narrative only got going more than a generation after the war ended. In other words when the 68er generation were able to publish books, make documentaries and so on. There was at least a thirty year pause by the Holocaust propaganda machine after the Nuremberg Trials wrapped up.

Just a quick look at this Wikipedia listing of Holocaust films gives one an idea of how the official version of the Holocaust took time to get rolling:

List of Holocaust films - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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It is important to point out though that the official Holocaust narrative only got going more than a generation after the war ended. In other words when the 68er generation were able to publish books, make documentaries and so on. There was at least a thirty year pause by the Holocaust propaganda machine after the Nuremberg Trials wrapped up.

Just a quick look at this Wikipedia listing of Holocaust films gives one an idea of how the official version of the Holocaust took time to get rolling:

List of Holocaust films - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I know that, but this Horkhehimer's quote from 1947 seems to prove that it was planned from the very beginning.
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I know that, but this Horkhehimer's quote from 1947 seems to prove that it was planned from the very beginning.
Yes, the 68ers were the first graduating class from the Frankfurt School of sabotage and disinformation.
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Not surprising this, with the proto-globalist UN having risen from the truimphialism of the 2nd World War. The holocaust mythology rests at the very centre of their legitamcy in the same sense that the acts of some of its founders - say the estimated 4 million that perished in Vietnam - isn't.

I would've thought "Vietnam War education" would be immeasurably more uselful not only in a moral sense but in a tactical sense, in light of the Iraqi debacle..
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That's right, and if the public and media of the Anglosphere spent one quarter of the time it spends talking about ex-Communists as it does Nazi-hunting maybe the Bush/Blair foreign policy nightmare would never have happened.

Check out this article from 2004 on the UK Labour government (if anything things are worse now with Milliband as their Foreign Secretary):

Who are you calling an old Trot? Independent, The (London) - Find Articles

... and on the other side of the Atlantic:

Trotsky, Strauss, and the Neocons, by Justin Raimondo
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"'The anonymous martyrs of the concentration camps are the symbols of humanity that is striving to be born. The task of philosophy is to translate what they have done into language that will be heard, even though their finite voices have been silenced by tyranny.'"

Max Horkheimer, The eclipse of Reason, 1947.
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Death...and then the bringing about of life?


...the horrors of Andersonville and many a subordinate but kindred Golgotha are utterly without excuse.

'A History of the Great Rebellion' - 1866

...It was scarcely their fault that their prisoners coarsely and scantily fed during the last year or more wherein their armies were on half rations, and when no one willingly gave grain or meat for their currency; but they at no time lacked either eligible sites or timber; and there is no excuse for their failure to provide ample and commodious shelter, with abundance of pure water and fuel; so that the horrors of Andersonville and many a subordinate but kindred Golgotha are utterly without excuse.

...the prison at Andersonville had been selected for the most terrible human sacrifice which the world had ever seen.
The Treatment Of Prisoners During The Civil War - 1876

The subsequent history of Andersonville has startled and shocked the world with a tale of horror, of woe and death before unheard and unknown to civilization. No pen can describe, no painter sketch, no imagination comprehend its fearful and unutterable iniquity. It would seem as if the concentrated madness of earth and hell had found its final lodgment in the breasts of those who inaugurated the rebellion and controlled the policy of the Confederate Government, and that the prison at Andersonville had been selected for the most terrible human sacrifice which the world had ever seen.





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The US Civil War with its British Israelism is an interesting study. It appears the primary purpose of such accusations* is their being a means of social control, perhaps to a certain extent somewhat unconscious, so as to maintain control of one's own by way of contrived terror.** In the case of the US this control by terror would be aimed at the Union troops fighting at the front, and then of the general US population. It also serves to supress the declared enemy, in this case the Southerners, by way of demonization.

There is also something of a self fulfilling prophecy in these things it seems, again, perhaps somewhat unconscious...so as to artificially create a moral cause for the war? The Southerners repeatedly and sincerely attempted to relieve the prisoners suffering by working out an arrangement of some type with the US to no avail, even allowing for a delegation of prisoners to travel to Washington in 1864, where they were more or less told to get lost. By mid-1864, the South was already largely in a state of military collapse, and Sherman with a massive army could to a large degree go where he wanted. A rescue force (farce?) was put together of 5000 cavalry, just large enough it would seem to get itself in trouble, and sure enough, the force somehow managed to get itself defeated and its general captured, large numbers of the 'rescue force' themselves winding up in Andersonville.

Many amongst the Southerners, not to mention some amongst the rather bitter prisoners themselves, concluded the US appeared to want the prisoners to die...for some reason.

And where do such acusations spring from? Perhaps it has something to do with a mindset of absolute rightness of cause and no concept of agreeing to disagree with others (not very healthy)... compounded by error (of the US, too many promoting the war somehow thinking they were Jewish, BI, amongst others)...and what might be unconsciously realized to be a dubious moral cause and a need to shore up that cause, with something (the US troops fighting to spread a lucrative, but quite socially destructive variant of slavery known as 'cheap labor', against the Southerners already ghastly system of chattel).


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'Golgotha', 'the most terrible human sacrifice which the world had ever seen', 'Crucifixion'...an attempt to take the place that had classically been seen as God's?

A bit of an aside, but one might notice the prominance of the UN and its organization UNESCO in the thread's lead article. The establishment of an international parliament type organization had been a long term aim of the UK, probably more than anything else to be in reality something along the lines of an administrative body for the British Empire. Note too the prominance of the United States in the League's founding. The League of Nations would become the United Nations in 1945-46.

The United States and United Kingdom have been in a 'special relationship', a relationship only just short of an outright political union, since about 1900.

The League held its first meeting in London on 10 January 1920. Its first action was to ratify the Treaty of Versailles, officially ending World War I.


'Origin of the League of Nations' - published 1920

In light of the unfortunate ideology of British Israelism and those who have adhered to it, who quite literally (somehow) think they are Jewish, such as Fleet Admiral Fisher of the British Navy during WWI who declared upon the capture of Palestine from the Ottomans...


And I suppose now we [the British Empire] have got Palestine that this Federal House of Commons of the future will meet at Jerusalem, the capital of the lost Ten Tribes of Israel, whom we are without a doubt..." Fleet Admiral Sir John A. F. Fisher, First Sea Lord of the British Navy during WWI


is it surprising that the primary colors of light blue and white chosen to represent the League, and then the UN...


...are identical to those of the state of Israel?




Imperial British Israelism - Justification for an Empire (1987)
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