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Group of right-wing rabbis writes open letter to US president demanding he cancel Annapolis summit or risk provoking 'wrath of the almighty.' Rabbis assert Katrina disaster a result of America's support of 2005 disengagement, say California fires a warning

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A fringe group of prominent ultranationalist rabbis issued a harshly-worded letter to United States President George W. Bush earlier this week, warning him that the upcoming Annapolis peace conference would bring destruction upon America.

The rabbis evoke their previous prediction in 2005, when they published an open letter to Bush in the New York Times, demanding the US rescind its support of the disengagement plan.

"We wrote to President Bush, a man who believes in the Bible, to warn him against the terrible danger to which he is exposing his country by hosting such a conference," said Rabbi Meir Druckman, one of signatories to the letter.

"The land of Israel belongs to the people of Israel. God punishes anyone who coerces Israel to give up its land," he said.

"There is no doubt the New Orleans flood from the Katrina hurricane was God's punishment for evicting the settlements," said Druckman, "with hundreds of thousands left homeless, hundreds killed or wounded and billions of dollars sent down the drain – can we really ignore God's hand collecting an eye for an eye?"

The disengagement from Gaza and the northern West Bank was completed August 23rd, 2005 – which was also the date Hurricane Katrina formed over the Bahamas.

"Despite those consequences, yet again we find ourselves facing an initiative to expel Jews from Judea and Samaria and cede their cities to terror organizations. And once again the patrons of the event are President Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

"This time the Almighty is warning the US in advance: if the plague of water was not enough now he shall send flames. While hundreds of thousands of families have already fled the terrible fires in California, and we ask you, will you really forge ahead with this malevolent plan?" added Druckman.

The letter was authored by SOS Israel, a right-wing movement which earlier this year distributed citations to IDF soldiers who disobeyed orders and refused to take part in the disengagement.

The rabbis urged Bush's administration to back down from the current direction of the peace process, saying that not an inch of Israeli land should be ceded. "Be merciful to yourselves and the beloved America and its citizens. Lay down the hand you have raised against the Creator in war. Help the people of Israel fight without compromise against the terrorists who rise against it, and then, with a pure heart, you will truly be able to pray: May God bless America," the rabbis said.

Among the rabbis who signed the letter are several leading religious figures, including Rabbis Dov Wolfa, Yekutiel Rap, Gedalia Axelrod as well as the chief rabbi of Kiryat Arba and Hebron, Dov Lior and the son of former Chief Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, Yaakov Yosef.
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I'm trying to picture out Bush, using the rabbis warning as his ultimate excuse for the next war.

At least it is better than the excuse of the weapons of mass destructions, since no one will ever be able to prove that God would not have punished America if he follows the divine instructions.
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Allegedly, Sharon's falling into coma and the clinical death were caused by some Cabbalistic curses directed against him by certain Orthodox Rabbis, as the revenge for his decesion to withdraw from Gaza.

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I'm trying to picture out Bush, using the rabbis warning as his ultimate excuse for the next war.

At least it is better than the excuse of the weapons of mass destructions, since no one will ever be able to prove that God would not have punished America if he follows the divine instructions.
Wouldn't he look appropriate in black wide brimmed hat and a long goatee? Nose is already appropriate.
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I was talking to my father about a recent meeting between Bush and these sort of weird rabbis, and my father made the good point that only a few years ago it would have been considered unbelievable that a president of the US would even concern himself with such junk. I can't imagine Nixon, Kennedy or Eisenhower being photographed anywhere near such people.

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my father made the good point that only a few years ago it would have been considered unbelievable that a president of the US would even concern himself with such junk.
Perhaps sending the right message to AIPAC?
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Perhaps sending the right message to AIPAC?
Without a doubt.
Americans have always let money have a decisive role in their political process, and in the last forty years a large pool of very primitive Jews from Eastern Europe have become wealthy in America. Over the same time, advocacy for Israel became one of their only community projects. Thirdly, President Bush is stupid and malicious. So we have "means, motive and opportunity" as they say in courtroom dramas.
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Americans have always let money have a decisive role in their political process
I remember that there was a discussion about the incredibly high costs involved in the election of just one representative in the U.S., and how this derived in an absolute need of finances from lobby groups. And, of course, the due repayments.
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I remember that there was a discussion about the incredibly high costs involved in the election of just one representative in the U.S., and how this derived in an absolute need of finances from lobby groups. And, of course, the due repayments.
I think the tragic thing about the current American political culture is that the senators and congressmen have the power to largely free themselves from money. Unlike the other 300 million Americans, they can make the laws on elections and campaign financing.
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