Neo-Nazi switches to Islam

[Menydh]

What the neo-Nazi fanatic did next: switched to Islam

The Times
April 24, 2006

Two faces, two converts - two Muslim extremists in Britain


David Myatt, who has changed his name to Abdul Aziz ibn Myatt,
is a former leader of Combat 18;
he now says Islam is the best hope for "fighting the West".
Photo: BBC Panorama

A NEO-NAZI whose ideas were said to be the inspiration for the man who let off a nail bomb in Central London in 1999 has converted to an extremist form of Islam.

David Myatt, a founder of the hardline British National Socialist Movement (NSM) who has been jailed for racist attacks, has changed his name to Abdul Aziz ibn Myatt. David Copeland, who is serving six life sentences after three people died in his Soho bomb attacks, was a member of the NSM.

Myatt is reportedly the author of a fascist terrorist handbook and a former leader of the violent far-right group Combat 18. But now — in his mid-50s and sporting a red, bushy beard — he subscribes to radical Islamist views.

In an internet essay entitled From Neo-Nazi to Muslim, Myatt asks: “How was it that I, a Westerner with a history of over 25 years of political involvement in extreme right-wing organisations, a former leader of the political wing of the neo-Nazi group Combat 18, came to be standing outside a mosque with a sincere desire to go inside and convert to Islam? “These were the people who I had been fighting on the streets, I had swore (sic) at and had used violence against — indeed, one of my terms of imprisonment was a result of me leading a gang of skinheads in a fight against ‘Pakis’.”

In a later interview, Myatt supports the killing of any Muslim who breaks his oath of loyalty to Islam, and the setting up of a Muslim superstate. He describes himself as having been “staunchly opposed to non-white immigration into Britain and twice jailed for violence in pursuit of my political aims”.

He added: “I spent several decades of my life fighting for what I regarded as my people, my race and my nation, and endured two terms of imprisonment arising out of my political activities.”

But his belief is now that: “The pure authentic Islam of the revival, which recognises practical jihad (holy war) as a duty, is the only force that is capable of fighting and destroying the dishonour, the arrogance, the materialism of the West . . . For the West, nothing is sacred, except perhaps Zionists, Zionism, the hoax of the so-called Holocaust, and the idols which the West and its lackeys worship, or pretend to worship, such as democracy.

“They want, and demand, that we abandon the purity of authentic Islam and either bow down before them and their idols, or accept the tame, secularised, so-called Islam which they and their apostate lackeys have created.

“This may well be a long war, of decades or more — and we Muslims have to plan accordingly. We must affirm practical jihad — to take part in the fight to free our lands from the kuffar (unbelievers). Jihad is our duty.”

Myatt, who briefly became a monk after his second spell in prison, said that he became a Muslim while working long hours alone on a farm. He grew up in Africa, moved to Britain in 1967 and spent time living in Worcestershire. In July 2000 Searchlight, the anti-fascist magazine, described him as “the most ideologically-driven Nazi in Britain, preaching race war and terrorism”.

Myatt was the architect of the NSM and was involved in the leadership of Combat 18. He issued a statement in response to the Soho nail bombings saying: “Neither myself nor anyone else connected to the NSM can be held responsible for these bombs in any way. That responsibility lies with the person who constructed them, planted them and caused them to explode. Only that person, and God, know the motive behind the attacks.”

Myatt said that “all bombs are terrible and barbaric”, whether detonated by lone bombers, Western governments in Iraq or Zionists in Palestine.

“The NSM considered the creation of a revolutionary situation in this country as necessary since it wished to build an entirely new society, based upon personal honour, and believed this could only be done by destroying the dishonourable and corrupt society of the present.

“However, the NSM neither preached, nor sought to incite, what is called ‘racial hatred’. Instead, it strove to propagate the warrior values of honour, loyalty and duty, and make the British people aware of, and come to value, their ancestral warrior culture and warrior heritage.”

Myatt said recently that he had given up hope of a breakthrough by the far Right and believed that Muslims were the best hope for combating Zionism and the West. “There will not be an uprising, a revolution, in any Western nation, by nationalists, racial nationalists, or National Socialists — because these people lack the desire, the motivation, the ethos, to do this and because they do not have the support of even a large minority of their own folk,” he said.

“If these nationalists, or some of them, desire to aid us, to help us . . . they can do the right thing, the honourable thing, and convert, revert, to Islam — accepting the superiority of Islam over and above each and every way of the West.”


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[Menydh]

An open letter to Nick Griffin of the BNP

July 17, 2004

Having seen a recent television programme in which you made certain remarks about Islam - and having listened to various interviews given by you following the broadcasting of that programme - I consider it the honourable thing to do, given my own knowledge and experience, to ask you some questions, and make some comments about your anti-Islamic remarks.

Firstly, from whence comes your knowledge - if that is the correct term to describe your opinions - about Islam? Have you read the Qur'an? If so, in what interpretation? Have you read the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad? Have you spoken to an 'alim - an Islamic scholar? Have you travelled to a country where the majority of people are Muslims? Have you talked to any Muslims about Islam - been invited into their homes? Have you even ever visited a Mosque?

I fully expect the answers to most, if not all of these questions, will be "no". If that is indeed the case - and I am quite willing to be proved wrong - then it would seem that your views and opinions about Islam are based upon prejudice, and that you have the temerity to speak, in public and as a leader of a political organization, about a subject which you yourself have little or no knowledge of, and little or no personal experience of. No doubt you believe that the so-called "West" - and what you and others have referred to as the "indigenous culture" of Britain - is superior to the Way of Life which is Al-Islam, but this belief, joined with your prejudice about Islam and Muslims, is quite simply dishonourable and uncivilized: the attitude which gave rise to the abuses, and torture, of Muslims, by "Whites", in Iraq and places like Guantanamo Bay. Have you condemned - will you condemn - such abuses of Muslims, by "Whites"? If not, why not?

For myself, I can speak and write about Islam from direct personal experience, and from a study which has spanned many years and involved a great deal of travel. I can also speak and write about such organizations as the BNP - and the people who support them or join them - from personal experience. Contrary to a great deal of propaganda about such organizations and the people involved with them, I know that there are some honourable, decent people, in such organizations, and supporting such organizations. But such organizations, like most if not all organizations, attract diverse individuals, some of whom are far from being honourable, and some of whom are subsumed by prejudice.

As a leader, do you consider you have a duty to do what is honourable? Do you even understand what honour is - what it means and implies in terms of one's deeds, words, and life? Are you motivated to do what you sincerely believe is right, and honourable, for what you regard as your own people, or are you merely using your position to fulfil some personal, and prejudiced, agenda? Not having met you in person, I have no personal opinion about this - and honour demands that I give you the benefit of the doubt. Therefore I assume your motivation is sincere, and your intentions are honourable. If this indeed the case, then surely you have a duty to speak only from knowledge and personal experience, and a duty to strive to respect the culture, the beliefs, the Way of Life, of those whose culture, beliefs, and Way of Life differs from yours? For that is what I know honour to be - a respect for others; a striving to be reasonable. Honour sets ethical limits to our behaviour - and prejudice, of whatever kind, is surely a negation of honour.

In respect of Islam, I know from my own experience, studies, travel and involvement, that Islam is a noble, an honourable, a civilized, Way of Life. Indeed, I would go so far as to express the view that Islam, correctly upheld and correctly implemented, is far superior to the way of life which dominates in all of the societies of the West. I also know that many people in the West - and especially the governments of the West - are arrogant, and prejudiced, and that they act in a dishonourable way. This arrogance, prejudice and dishonour was and is so evident in places like Iraq, and Afghanistan, where armies and government agencies - the majority of whom are "White" - ignobly occupy Muslim land, treat Muslims with disrespect, and have little or no understanding of Islam, and little or no desire to understand Islam. Indeed, the majority of such "Whites" are full of prejudice toward Islam and toward Muslims, and many of them - and their governments in particular - are intent on changing Islam, so arrogantly sure are they that the materialistic, un-numinous, ways of the modern West are "right" and "superior" to Islam, which they - like you, it seems - regard as "backward".

In this, you - and they - are assuredly incorrect. I know from my own experience, travels and studies that Islam produces - has produced and can produce - honourable individuals and an honourable society: that it is a guide to living in a noble, civilized way. Why? Because Islam is numinous - that is, a revealing of what is divine, sacred. It is such a revealing which sets limits to our behaviour, which provides the guidelines we need to prevent us being arrogant, prejudiced, uncivilized, profane, and it is this numinosity, this awareness of the sacred - and the humility, the reverence, which derives from it - which the West and many of its peoples lack today but which Islam possesses in abundance. Which, of course, is one of reasons the West is so intent on suppressing and destroying genuine Islam.

In conclusion, I invite you to Islam: to discover Islam, to learn about it, to experience it. For surely, the honourable thing to do in this matter is for you to so learn, to gain some first-hand experience of Islam itself?

[Breydel]

personally i don’t think high of the logic and perspectives of religious persons with regards of biological evolution. other than that: “If these nationalists, or some of them, desire to aid us, to help us . . . they can do the right thing, the honourable thing, and convert, revert, to Islam — accepting the superiority of Islam over and above each and every way of the West.” every intellectual debate can be won over islamicists, be it from relatively theological and philosophical points of view or economical and historical ones, we have all arguments and points of discussion at our side. in the western world and its moral deterioration of today we still dominate world politics in its broadest meaning and even from the perspective of the political left, the permission for islam is immoral be the only reason islam undermines primary democratic principles, it doesn't matter that morality is subjective, all what made us great and dominant is contradicted to islam and that should be the first principle

[Der]

Well this David Myatt isen't the only National Socialist that converted to Islam. The well known Galician National Socialist Xose Carlos Rios Arias who was in "CEADE Galiza", created "A Confederaçom Ariana da Galiza (CAG)" edited the magazine "ARENGA"

Later on he also participated with the Resistencia Aria organization which used to have this web site that no longer exists: Galiza Aria

So he was someone with a big history of the movement behind him, and he also converted to Islam but he did that after passing through various religious stages: Cristianism, paganism, Islam ...

The funny thing is that during his Islamic religious stage he publicised another NS publication called handschar which was an Islamic and Galician Identitarian magazine this is funny since all the relations between Galicia and Islam have always been relations of war and rivalry.

From what I’ve heard, Xose Carlos Rios Arias has now abandoned the NS movement as well as his religious tendencies.

[Señor Malo]

Well, I found tis site fully sponsored by the BNP...
Aryan Unity

[Der]

Originally Posted by searcher of truth

Well, I found tis site fully sponsored by the BNP...
Aryan Unity

The site looks to be sponsered not by the BNP (British National Party) but by the (British People's Party)

Anyway what does this have to do with the original thread? Which is esentially about Islam.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Der

Well this David Myatt isen't the only National Socialist that converted to Islam. The well known Galician National Socialist Xose Carlos Rios Arias who was in "CEADE Galiza", created "A Confederaçom Ariana da Galiza (CAG)" edited the magazine "ARENGA"

Later on he also participated with the Resistencia Aria organization which used to have this web site that no longer exists: Galiza Aria

So he was someone with a big history of the movement behind him, and he also converted to Islam but he did that after passing through various religious stages: Cristianism, paganism, Islam ...

The funny thing is that during his Islamic religious stage he publicised another NS publication called handschar which was an Islamic and Galician Identitarian magazine this is funny since all the relations between Galicia and Islam have always been relations of war and rivalry.

From what I’ve heard, Xose Carlos Rios Arias has now abandoned the NS movement as well as his religious tendencies.

Handschar was the name of the Islamic SS division.

I heard that he became some kind of Muslim cleric.

For more nutzis, check this forum. There is much of charanga y pandereta in the NS world.

[Susi]

Originally Posted by Der

The site looks to be sponsered not by the BNP (British National Party) but by the (British People's Party)

Anyway what does this have to do with the original thread? Which is esentially about Islam.

Those bastards! What about the People's Party of Britain?!

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If you get it, you get a prize.

[Der]

Originally Posted by Susi

Those bastards! What about the People's Party of Britain?!

</random reference>

If you get it, you get a prize.

I think I can guess.

But I still don't know why is posted here.

[Marcus Marulus]

Well, this man, David Myatt, as far as read about him, has converted to madness long ago, maybe when he was a kid. I don't think he is ever going to reconvert from that. All his later "conversions" to this or that ideology have not much relevance...

[svin]

One Ukrainian guy who posted here converted to Islam, afaik. Funny, that he said the same things about great Aryans etc.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by svin

One Ukrainian guy who posted here converted to Islam, afaik. Funny, that he said the same things about great Aryans etc.

All kinds of lunatics around...

[Kernunnos]

Just look at his gaze. He is as lost as a wrecked ship under a couple kilometers of water. Every political movement, including mainsteam ones, will include a certain quantity of nuts. I have seen neutics in almost every party I have come to know as a young man: people who try to find in politics what they do not have in life. It s a well atetsted historical reality, and one of the plagues of being into active politics: yo often met half lunatics who hang aroun as vultures, scaring away any potential new recruit. Some are lucid in their folly,first approach is good, for much time they work flawlessly, but sooner or later they blast.