Islam enemy or a potentional ally?

[Prinz Eugen]

As i wrote in Skadi islam after judaism is enemy for Europe!I want to see other oppinions!

[Awar]

Well, I can only imagine Rhadley from Skadi writing an opposing opinion.

[Blood Axis]

Who's Rhadley?

[Prussian]

Originally Posted by Blood Axis

Who's Rhadley?

.......this should help answer your question Miss.

rhadley

[Blood Axis]

I see, I see...

[Menydh]

Both Judaism and Islamism represent a clear threat to Europe. I wouldn't waste my time trying to rank them in terms of danger. It is a diversion from the real concern, which should be to determine clearly the exact terms in which each of them pose a threat Europe. Lumping both together will make us lose sight and will not call for a clear analysis of the situation.

Your concern, however, may be lie in the fact that some people erroneously perceive Islamism as some sort of ally against Judaism. At the same time, liberals see Judaism as a strong ally against Islamism. I suppose that it is easy to fall into those false perceptions of the reality when you see yourself rushed by situations of extreme necessity.

[Ederico]

One Word in General: Enemy.

[Il Legionario]

I don't think that Islam can ever be a potential ally

[Awar]

Well, the main question would be 'an ally against who' ...
I mean, if all the Europeans and all Muslims allied themselves, that would be
like some 3 billion people... and then what? Attack the 10 million Jews?
Fight them in the streets with all this huge manpower? RIDICULOUS!!!

Who the hell needs manpower to do anything anymore?

Without USA, the Jews are not a factor of any sort in the world.

Muslims are a factor because they have oil and they reproduce at
great rates ( so, they flood and replace host populations ). They wouldn't even be such a threat if the entire area
of the middle-east wasn't enflamed by USA's efforts in the last 30 years.

[Menydh]

So basically, Awar, you are bringing a third element into the equation. America. Which I agree as it has shown being a threat to Europe in more than one sense.

Now I would propose to create a third sub-forum under the Shadow of Sem: Americanism. But I already know many would be heart-lighted about this.

[Awar]

Not at all... that would be a good idea... the previous ideas weren't as specific as this one.

[Prinz Eugen]

During the soviet invasion at Afganistan U.S secret services ,financed,armed and trained islamists to fight against Soviets.
Bin Laden family and Bush family are partners in some oil companies.
I believe that islamic terror is using by USA from some reasons!

[Blood Axis]

I agree.

Both Jewish & Islamic culture are totally alien to the European ideal.

I don't see how we could benefit in allying with either of them.

[Biggles]

Where would be the benefit in allying in something non European ?.

Sooner or later their realise our objective is of little benefit to them.

[Napo]

The Jews magnetize the other Semite half all over the world. I have said this many time. They go hand in hand with each other. They hate each other to death, but if you look at why Arabs flee to other nations, it is to see what Jews are up to. They have no business in Europe. They were really under no potential danger at most time of their immigration periods. You look at Washington D.C. and NYC for instance,which has had a high Jewish population within the vicinities, Arabs move in to keep on the look out. Normal Arab life consists of not treating a woman with respect I might add as well. I have seen it before. They are sick animals. I cannot stand either Semite taking all the media everyday and having their name in every article you read. It is horrendous. They block out European-American voice and or what is wanted to said or heard which is censoring us out. I could not find articles on Jews trying to save their images in America. The reason for that is in the United States it is considered "racist" to say something against what it literally a dictatorship of Jews,Hispanics,and Blacks. Anyway,Semites are causing a multiculti world, you name it.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Prinz Eugen

During the soviet invasion at Afganistan U.S secret services,financed,armed and trained islamists to fight against Soviets.

They've also given support to UCK terrorists here in Europe.

Bin Laden family and Bush family are partners in some oil companies.

Do you have any evidence for that?

I believe that islamic terror is using by USA from some reasons!

Well.. they've been feeding it and now it is turning against them too. That's for sure.

I heard one interesting theory about the Gulf War. Its consequences extend all the way to the War of Iraq.

We all know that the regime of Sadam Hussein had been allied of the US against Iran, and the US had been supporting Sadam and feeding his regime to counter religious extremism in the area. Apparently, Sadam could 'have been suggested that if he invaded Kuwait the US would not make much noise about it, and even quiet other voices'. Suspicions are that he was hinted that so that he would give a leit motive for a war. But, what was the interest of the US in having a war against most laicist Sadam's regime? Some said that petrol. But they could have got it with Sadam without much problem.

Well, for years Sadam had been arming himself under the shadow of his US allies. So much that he represented the biggest military threat to the state of Israel in the area.

So work out the rest.

[Aistulf]

Definately not ally, but 'enemy' is a rather big word. Their 'power' comes from the fact they've been facilitated from the beginning, and still are (especially in Europe).

[Ferran]

Originally Posted by Prinz Eugen

Bin Laden family and Bush family are partners in some oil companies.

Curious. I know that Bush father have a bank account where Bin Laden is still a beneficiary, but well, it isn't all, if we back down to 11-S, we will understand some about what's happening now, let's see why, well, Bush father was the propietary/maximum shareholder of the World Trade Center (perhaps along with Bin Laden?), and the previous day to 11-S, he retired a 49% of all its WTC actions, really suspicious, isn't? Also, the 11-S attack was realised in an hour where buildings weren't so plenty but quite empty, a thing that islamist extremists couldn't had decided, I'm not suggesting nothing about that but only telling data. You will solve the puzzle to yourselves. I also can talk about Bin Laden's militar preparation, but I think that everybody knows that.

Another thing, why if a "super-power" like Spain could find and arrest Roldán in the other part of the world (Singapur), and USA, with all its great human net work, can't catch Bin Laden? Because there are many interests, it's very clear. Also remeber the Bin Laden's VHS published one week before to the American president elections, saying that he will attack USA again and the Americans must be prepared to that day, anyone really thinks that an intelligent person could announce his attacks? That simply was a mere strategy to confirm Bush as the president helped by the citizeninsecurity caused by the video.

These theories could seem so paranoids, but more rare things have already been seen on the last years.