Can someone explain to me how so many Muslims have come into Europe?

[Occidentian]

Ok, I do not know the history behind this, so maybe someone can educate me on the history behind how:

There are tons of Turks in Germany
There are tons of Turks and Algerians in France
There are tons of Pakistanis in England

How has this come about?

Why are they not deported?

I guess I'm just wondering how the current situation came about, because, if people can just look, they're getting higher and higher numbers (via illegal immigration and breeding like rabbits) while Europeans have lesser and lesser numbers, and it's just bound to get worse.

Is not any country trying to stop it?

Are people not fining employers who hire them for jobs, illegally?

I guess i'm just trying to get a good background on WHY this situation exists.

Thanks!

[Cirrus]

Were you frozen or cryogenized during the last thirty years ?

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Occidentian

Why are they not deported?

I was just thinking about the same thing.

Is not any country trying to stop it?

Unfortunately, today's Europe is mostly pretending to be liberal and multicultural. So because of that, it's pretty hard to stop immigrants from coming. Immigration is unfairly counted in a population growth, so the Europe's people are often confused. Many of them think that European population is growing, but it's directly the opposite. The indigenous population is shrinking or stagnating at best, while immigrant population has a staggering growth rate.

I guess i'm just trying to get a good background on WHY this situation exists.

It exists because of the poor standard of living in the countries from which immigrants came(and are still coming). They often have 5+ children in their home countries, so they do the same in Europe. Long story short, they're breeding like rabbits, while Europeans aren't. That's the main reason.

[Occidentian]

Originally Posted by Bardyllis

I was just thinking about the same thing.
Unfortunately, today's Europe is mostly pretending to be liberal and multicultural. So because of that, it's pretty hard to stop immigrants from coming. Immigration is unfairly counted in a population growth, so the Europe's people are often confused. Many of them think that European population is growing, but it's directly the opposite. The indigenous population is shrinking or stagnating at best, while immigrant population has a staggering growth rate.
It exists because of the poor standard of living in the countries from which immigrants came(and are still coming). They often have 5+ children in their home countries, so they do the same in Europe. Long story short, they're breeding like rabbits, while Europeans aren't. That's the main reason.

But, somehow, someone is letting them come in illegally and work illegally.

That is my question - what groups, what people are for allowing them come in and break the laws?

I am quite aware of this situation existing for quite some time, but this is about a question begging other questions.

[FlashVoyager]

They wanted to live under better conditions
They travelled to Europe
Evil politicians granted them citizenship.

[Marcus Marulus]

They are here because European governments let them come here, gave them citizenship and various other rights and the indigenous peoples of Europe did not react. It is as simple as that.

And this vocabulary like: they breed like rabbits and similar...I think it's mistaken to look it in that way. My opinion is that the main problem is that Europeans don't procreate and not the fact that they breed.

The life-style of modern Europeans is extremely detrimental to the ethnic preservation of our nations and we should change it if we want to survive.

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Plethon

They are here because European governments let them come here, gave them citizenship and various other rights and the indigenous peoples of Europe did not react. It is as simple as that.

That's true. Additional workforce was needed when Europe's industrial growth reached its peak. That's the reason why they were granted citizenship and other various benefits. A grave mistake caused by the short sighted politicians, greedy industrials and indifferent(often naive) indigenous peoples.

And this vocabulary like: they breed like rabbits and similar...I think it's mistaken to look it in that way. My opinion is that the main problem is that Europeans don't procreate and not the fact that they breed.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think of them as animals or some vermin that has to be exterminated.. They're humans like you and me, but they are causing troubles for us all.The fact is that our numbers are diminishing, while their numbers are growing. It's a situation that needs a quick and resolute response.Unfortunately, Europe is governed by the kind of people that don't fit this description.
Also, the big problem is that some people look upon USA and hope that Europe becomes the same thing. A multicultural federation.

The life-style of modern Europeans is extremely detrimental to the ethnic preservation of our nations and we should change it if we want to survive.

Unfortunately this is also true.

[Marcus Marulus]

...and there is even more to it.

Namely, many Europeans want to keep their "way of life", a relatively high living standard, irresponsible life-style (not having children, having always fun, eternal adolscence etc.), while immigrants, mostly Muslim, will do the dirty work they themsleves don't want to perform.

So such selfish and irresponsible people, who don't care about ethnic preservation at all, aggravate the situation any more. They support the present political order, because it suits their selfish needs...

[Strengthandhonour]

Well you know, a while back here at stirpes we had a poll regarding having children and such and surprisingly a lot of people from this message board claimed they didn't want to be parents.
I realize I am young and I haven't received the full kick of life yet. I want children. It's not right to encourage someone to have a kid just for ethnic preservation. The person must want to have the kid because they want to, for love.