Greetings

[Heimdall]

Greetings all,

My name is Nick.
I am 16...and I live in California.

I'm a young European Nationalist..and am looking to join the ranks.

[M.R.]

Welcome.

We're "European nationalists" only if you consider we're nationalists and we're European. I'm strictly nationalist, my land above all.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Heimdall

I live in California.

I'm a young European Nationalist..and am looking to join the ranks.

I see some inconsistency here. "European Nationalist" is not related to "Europe as a nation", but to one of the individual nations of Europe. America, or California, as far as I know is not one.

Also, I'd suggest that you read in a dictionary the definition of ethnicity and see how you can fit "white" (or "blue" or "pink" for that matter) in it.

[Kernunnos]

Rough greetings, isn't it?

Anyway, Mennyd meant simply that we classify people according to land of origin.

(For example, I'm northern italian, Marulus is croatian, Mennyd spaniard etc.).

If you can fit in one of such mods just let us know, if you feel you are simply an american of white race and mixed european ancestry (as it is the case for most of you) you shall simply be an american.

The gruff come from the fact that we do not share the same views as white nationalist from US, for whom "white people" and european are synonim.

We try to differentiate between european nations.

[Heimdall]

Still not the kind of greeting I expected.

Can I just say I'm a nationalist and lets leave at that?
or should I just leave?

[Menydh]

You did read and agreed to the rules when you signed in, didn't you?

1. Stirpes is a board for European Nationalists. Nationalism revolves around the concept of ethnicity, not on any concept of races or sub-races. Ethnicity is based upon evolutive but non discontinued heridity of lineages (hence, stirpes) in terms of both blood (ius sanguinis) and soil (ius soli). (see addendum at the bottom)

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Addendum

Article §1 is a clear reference not only to pro-multiculturalism and to universalist agendas of integrationism and assimilationism, but also to not so dissimilar agendas alien to ethnic nationalism, which have the intention to derive the efforts Nationalism towards the goals of racial supremacism under a pretended preservationism, in The Americas and Oceania (so-called White Nationalism), Israel (Zionism), or elsewhere.

Stirpes - Forum Rules

[M.R.]

Originally Posted by Heimdall

not the kind of greetings I expected.

Personally I have nothing against you, nor nothing against you being here (I'm speaking for myself) as long as you wouldn't be breaking any of forum rules. As far as I know non-nationalists are welcome here as long as they show respect to other members. By nationalists I mean people in line with traditional nationalism of European lands, not Americanizations of nationalism.

Can I just say I'm a White Nationalist or a Racial Nationalist?
Because thats what I am.

Let's just call it what it is, (American) rac(ial)ism. You're young and can learn many useful things here, maybe you can help us by teaching other Americans to differ between rac(ial)ism and nationalism.

[Heimdall]

To be honest I'm just confused and I'm new to this philosophy.
There are so many different terms and names and I'm just confused at what to call myself.

So what should I call myself? Or should I just leave it as a Nationalist?

[M.R.]

The concept of 'nation' (and nationalism) is about ethnicity, not race. Germans, for example, are Germans and it's not a race (as Europid, which 'white' is supposed to mean - the term itself is Americanization anyway) that makes them German, but their ethnic origin. It's not like Americans (be them 'white' or 'black' or whatever color/race) who are not a nation as such, hence they can't be nationalists.

[Heimdall]

ok, that makes sense.
So I'm of European descent...but I'm live in America so that means I can't be a American nationalist because Americans aren't a ethnicity?

So does that mean I am a European nationalist?

[Ricardo Reis]

You are a lost cause.

[Heimdall]

excuse me?

I'm just trying to learn...there is no need to be rude.

[orieleye]

Heimdall, have a look through the White Nationalism and the WASP subforum. "WN" is really a type of multiculturism opposed to nationalism.

[Routasydän]

I think such currents as national-anarchism could have a very favourable impact on the nationalist-orientated American politics. It's been growing in Australia, for example, which I think shares some of the same qualities as North America as colonies of mainly European extraction.

The idea of autonomous communities would surely be a more realistic approach instead of a single, homogenous state, considering the circumstances.

Oh and welcome.

[Carnyx]

CA, American Riviera.