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[Ostrogorski]

Greetings from a new member...

so,where can I find informations about European nationalism?

[Vincent]

Pozdrav! Dobrodošao

Originally Posted by Sektor

so,where can I find informations about European nationalism?

On this forum I hope

[Carnyx]

Hi and welcome here.

[Kernunnos]

Welcome aboard, nice to see nationalists grow

[Menydh]

Welcome Sektor!

What exactly are you looking forward to find? There is nothing like a centralised committee or such a thing for European nationalism, not even a central resource site. Best thing is to ask here on whatever you might be interested in, even if it is not a well formed idea, and see what different nationalists from different parts of Europe have to say.

[Ostrogorski]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Welcome Sektor!

What exactly are you looking forward to find? There is nothing like a centralised committee or such a thing for European nationalism, not even a central resource site. Best thing is to ask here on whatever you might be interested in, even if it is not a well formed idea, and see what different nationalists from different parts of Europe have to say.

I know,there are different opinions about European nationalism...I just wanted to know your opinion on that subject...is it based on Charles de Gaule thought - Europe from Lisbon to Ural,or maybe Eurasian idea???is it based on common ethnic,cultural,linguistic roots of European nations or common destiny???
usual questions...you know,like FAQ for dummies

yeah,and I find this forum very good...keep up with the good work

[Strengthandhonour]

Welcome to Stirpes.
I think such question would take a very long time to be answered. I recommend you perhaps read the FAQ and just explore around and read some of the opinions that are posted.

once again, welcome

[Susi]

Welcome Sektor!

Obligatory welcome hugs from Stirpes' token female presence.

[Erasmus]

Originally Posted by Sektor

I know,there are different opinions about European nationalism...I just wanted to know your opinion on that subject...is it based on Charles de Gaule thought - Europe from Lisbon to Ural,or maybe Eurasian idea???is it based on common ethnic,cultural,linguistic roots of European nations or common destiny???

Not Paneuropeanism indeed

[Aptrgangr]

Welcome Sektor,
I am looking forward for your posts here.

[M.R.]

Originally Posted by Sektor

I know,there are different opinions about European nationalism...I just wanted to know your opinion on that subject...is it based on Charles de Gaule thought - Europe from Lisbon to Ural,or maybe Eurasian idea???is it based on common ethnic,cultural,linguistic roots of European nations or common destiny???

This is pan-Europeanism, personally I'm opposed to it because it's anti-nationalistic.

Anyway, welcome on the forum.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Sektor

I know,there are different opinions about European nationalism...I just wanted to know your opinion on that subject...is it based on Charles de Gaule thought - Europe from Lisbon to Ural,or maybe Eurasian idea???is it based on common ethnic,cultural,linguistic roots of European nations or common destiny???

When it comes to define Europe, there are different opinions. This has always been the case. One reason why opinions differ is --perhaps-- that each group attempts to define Europe according to a set of self interests.

Common ethnic links? No. No such thing is true for Europe as a whole. Ethnic diversity prevails. Cultural links? That is debatable. Perhaps if we consider that what makes us individually different to others, it also makes us similar to each other. Not that that provides a strong link.

An Europe from Lisbon to the Urals and beyond (Siberia) should be the scope of a well planned Europe, as a geopolitical project. This, however, meets with two problems. One would be that the political structure of Europe with regards to nations is still undefined. The other problem would be that it clashes with the interests of nations in their quest for hegemonical control in Western Europe. But I believe that it could provide a balance to this problem.

The Eurasian idea, as it is usually proposed is, in my opinion, an aberration.

[Ostrogorski]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

When it comes to define Europe, there are different opinions. This has always been the case. One reason why opinions differ is --perhaps-- that each group attempts to define Europe according to a set of self interests.

That's true...I've got nothing to add...

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Common ethnic links? No. No such thing is true for Europe as a whole. Ethnic diversity prevails. Cultural links? That is debatable. Perhaps if we consider that what makes us individually different to others, it also makes us similar to each other. Not that that provides a strong link.

I can see two,three or even more different ethno-cultural zones in Europe...
first is romano-catholic zone with common bonds in religion(Roman-catholicism),culture(Latin i.e Roman culture) and language(languages like French,Spanish,Italian,originated from old Latin) and even common ethnic structure(most of these nations are of Mediterranean race)...
second is germano-protestant zone with common bonds in religion(most of them are prostestants-Lutherans),ethnic structure(Germanic),and they also share similar culture and languages...
third could be called orthodox-slavic zone with common bonds in religion(Orthodox Christian),culture(Byzantian),and some of them even share common ethnic and linguistic bond(Slavic)...
there are,also,border nations like French,Polish,Finnish etc.

so what do we share then?I think it's same geographical position and common European destiny and some cultural and religious links like Christianity...some of you won't agree with me,by I think Europe is Christian,and that is something,among other things,what's authentically European...

Originally Posted by Mynydd

One would be that the political structure of Europe with regards to nations is still undefined.

I don't understand this...can you be more specific...

Originally Posted by Mynydd

The other problem would be that it clashes with the interests of nations in their quest for hegemonical control in Western Europe.

true...but that's no problem in eastern Europe...

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Pozdrav!

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Sektor

I can see two,three or even more different ethno-cultural zones in Europe...

first is romano-catholic zone with common bonds in religion(Roman-catholicism),culture(Latin i.e Roman culture) and language(languages like French,Spanish,Italian,originated from old Latin) and even common ethnic structure(most of these nations are of Mediterranean race)...

second is germano-protestant zone with common bonds in religion(most of them are prostestants-Lutherans),ethnic structure(Germanic),and they also share similar culture and languages...

third could be called orthodox-slavic zone with common bonds in religion(Orthodox Christian),culture(Byzantian),and some of them even share common ethnic and linguistic bond(Slavic)...

there are,also,border nations like French,Polish,Finnish etc.

so what do we share then?I think it's same geographical position and common European destiny and some cultural and religious links like Christianity...

You are right there. I didn't mention Christendom even when it is the only common bond which is real. However, I'm not sure how much of the second group fits into it.

some of you won't agree with me,by I think Europe is Christian,and that is something,among other things,what's authentically European...

On the contrary. I do agree with you in that.

I don't understand this...can you be more specific...

I don't believe that Europe is a reality, other than what was represented by Christendom with its specific churches in the West and in the East. Apart from that, it could only be defined as an ideal. As such, I deem some of the approaches such as those of certain Pan-Europeanisms derived from nazi ideologies as no less aberrant than the Pan-Europeanism of the European Union.

Both focus in the destruction of the nations of Europe and, the fact is, that without the nations Europe is nothing.

true...but that's no problem in eastern Europe...

This is linked to what I've mentioned above about how Europe is defined by some people. It is not an Eastern problem as directly as it is Western, but it is still of concern to Eastern Europe.

The way nazi Germany was planning its design for Europe, based on small, fractioned alleged ethnicities, would have left Europe to the mercy of the only one nation which would have not been broken up into small feudatary-like states, Germany. A master plan or, rather, a master swindle. Germany would easily become that way the uncontested hegemonical power in Western Europe. Eastern Europe would follow a not much better fate.

This is how it is still today viewed by no few nazis (at least those who know what they are speaking about when they call themselves nazi or NS), and it is also inherited by the Identitarian movement which is, after all, recycled from German National Socialism.