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Some 10,000 teachers marched in Warsaw on Saturday

A proposed bill to ban the discussion of homosexuality in Polish schools would violate free speech, a human rights group has warned.


Human Rights Watch (HRW) made its warning in an open letter to Polish Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski.

It also said the bill "would create a climate of intolerance" in schools.

Last week, Poland's education ministry outlined the bill to ban "homosexual propaganda" in schools and to sack teachers promoting such "culture".


HRW said the proposal would "punish anyone who promotes homosexuality or any other deviance of a sexual nature in education establishments".


"Schools should be training grounds for tolerance, not bastions of repression and discrimination," the letter said.


It also stressed that the ban "would deprive student of potentially life-saving information" on Aids/HIV.


'Common homophobia'


It is the latest criticism of Poland's government for its alleged sanctioning of homophobia.

All persons, including children, have a right to free speech, freedom from discrimination, and to seek, receive and impart information
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On Saturday, more than 10,000 teachers marched in the capital, Warsaw, protesting against the government's education policy and demanding pay rises.

The demonstrators demanded the dismissal of Education Minister Roman Gietrych, accusing him of ignoring teachers' groups and increasing intolerance.


Mr Gietrych heads the small, right-wing and ultra-Catholic League of Polish Families party, which has been accused of being homophobic.


The BBC's Adam Easton in Warsaw says homophobia is common in Poland, which is deeply Catholic.


But Mr Gietrych's views are seen by many as radical and they have already got him into trouble in Brussels, our correspondent says.


In 2006, the Council of Europe threatened action against Warsaw over the sacking of an education official.


The official had been overseeing a Polish version of a Council of Europe manual on human rights education that contained a section on homosexuality and homophobia.



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Why don't they write letters to prime-ministers of Germany and Austria for banning discussion of Holocaust? Don't answer...

Funny, how England's and Poland's view on homosexuals is opposite.

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Funny, how England\'s and Poland\'s view on homosexuals is opposite.
Salvation for Europe will came from the East. That\'s where moral values are not corrupted.
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Salvation for Europe will came from the East. That\'s where moral values are not corrupted.
Depends where in the east. Some of the countries in the east are disgustingly liberal (i.e. the Czechs, i believe they're planning to legalize gay marriage), some of the countries in the east have bent to western pressure (i.e. due to EU pressure Romania legallized gay marriage and in some pat of the country illegal gay unions were recognized as marriages by local authorities), Croatia, slovenia and Hungary all recognize gay unions. But luckily as you said some places in the east are giving good responses to these idiots -- I like the footage I've seen of gay protests being stopped in Russia and in Serbia.

I like the footage at this link of a gay rights p;rotest in Serbia being stopped:
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Well, it's not gay marriages that are dangerous. The main problem is immigration. The first European country that will strictly oppose immigration will serve as examples for the others. And it's not very important, if gay marriages in this country are legal or not... Most of the people just fear to speak what they think. And I'm sure that most of the people hate current immigration trends.
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I had interesting conversation with Czech guy. It shows clearly how average Europeans fears to speak the truth about immigration problems.

At first, we started discussing differences between Eeastern and Western Germany (he lives near the G. border and often visits Germany). He looked to me like average brainwashed person (f.e., I said "I heard Turks are problem in Germany", he replied "Well, some can view them as a probkem")... Etc. But in the end he began to talk about gypsies, about their laziness and that they steal everything, about dangers of mass immigration and so on.
So, my point is that many Europeans have the same views, but simply are afraid to speak of them.
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Well, it's not gay marriages that are dangerous. The main problem is immigration. The first European country that will strictly oppose immigration will serve as examples for the others. And it's not very important, if gay marriages in this country are legal or not... Most of the people just fear to speak what they think. And I'm sure that most of the people hate current immigration trends.
I tend to disagree. Promoting immorality (like gay-marriages etc.) is incompatible with healthy societies which will be bent on preservation of their identity and on the struggle against the NWO (Anglosphere, immigration, multi-culti...)

Gay-marriage is a total nonsense, it is an insult to common sense, it is like hot ice or cold fire. Promoting such things means undermining family and family is the basic unit of society and nation.
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The immigration and the public inmorality are in the same coin. I support completely Poland in this chapter.
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Well, it's not gay marriages that are dangerous. The main problem is immigration. The first European country that will strictly oppose immigration will serve as examples for the others. And it's not very important, if gay marriages in this country are legal or not... Most of the people just fear to speak what they think. And I'm sure that most of the people hate current immigration trends.
I totally agree - so many posters on this site are obsessed with gays and gay marrage.As far as I'm concerned,as long as they keep it to themselves ,what they do in private is no ones business.Surely its better to have gay people in a stable 'marriage' than leading a promiscuous lifestyle?I agree that a gay lifestyle should'nt be promoted,and certainly not in schools,but conversely, it should'nt be condemned either.
The greatest danger to all of us ,and which requires our immediate action is the insidious mass immigration and 'multiculturalism' that is being imposed on all of us - counteracting this requires 100% of our effort,night and day.If 'multiculturalism' is allowed triumph everything we hold dear and cherish will be destroyed forever!!
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Well if Putin has anything to say about it that could very well be true. Here Poland is trying to have its cake and eat with the globalist EU. Part of the deal of being flooded with EU funds and other assorted goodies is to sign up to the whole neo-liberal agenda. That's the exchange. Otherwise why would the EU bother with a country that languishes in 'zenophobia', 'bigotry' *insert relevant soundbyte here*......
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If I was an MEP I'd declare them homosexuals and probably bring a gun and threaten tio shoot them dead if they try to pass any more pro-gay measures. Or just cause a riot by punching a couple or kicking them in the head, I don't want blood on my hands.
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Please I would like to say to Serbia and Croatia, don´t sell to the EU and NATO. Your soul is priceless.
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