Alarming jump in suicide attempts in Norway

[Routasydän]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Surely you must be aware that this is all taken into a historical context, of which this has not been an isolated comment.

And what is this supposed to mean "one million Swedes emigrated. The same happened all over Europe, but I'm going to single out Sweden and point it out as feat of failure" is what you seem to be saying.

It bears a high cost which will have to be paid, sooner or later. And it is not only a financial cost, but also the cost incurred in having a population used to a system that has an expiry date. A sociological cost of unpredictable consequences.

Like I said, it beats most of the competition out there, and no it doesn't have an expiry date. Its up to us to steer it, you can leave it to us.

No. And I haven't said such thing.

Then please give me your definition for a successful society, because you are bashing the societies that year after year top all kinds of human development indexes.

If you find it offensive that I say that "I don't even know when --or if-- in Finland we can speak of a successful society" (or, in simpler words, I don't know.. maybe I don't even care?), then "you have a problem" and that is why I told you that I can't help you with it.

Your ignorance is quite amusing, as you try to separate Finland from the Nordic model. If Sweden can be considered a successful society at some point, then so can Finland. Your post was as ignorant as it was arrogant, and those two traits are your problems

I have to provide some sort of argumentation for saying that I don't know about Finland?

It would be interesting to hear why Finland would not qualify.

Your need for help is urgent.

These attempts at witty ad hominems demean you.

Under the same scheme which considers Greenland a Nordic country, yes. Similarly, Turkey (or part of it) is European. (Karta over Norden)

Realize that Norden is not the same thing as Scandinavia, and that Finland is an integral part of the Nordic countries through culture and history. I don't know what makes you consider yourself more of an authority on the matter than a northerner, but its annoying and absurd. You need a lesson in what the concept of Norden is.

Obviously that doesn't mean that the Turks are European just like the Inuits or the Lapps are not Nordic.

It seems you do not know what the word Nordic means in this context.

There is no deal and there is no mention of Finland there. Notice that it is a comment on its own, with a clear full stop and break line which separates it from the comment above where Finland is mentioned in a different context.

When the topic changes, its good to let the reader know, especially when it is presented under a quotation where I specifically discuss Finland.

You know, this continuous chasing me since you returned to Skadi is an obsessive disorder. You should seriously consider to get treatment for it.

I'm not sure who has the obsessive disorder: I've never been a member at Skadi.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by wilpuri

And what is this supposed to mean "one million Swedes emigrated. The same happened all over Europe, but I'm going to single out Sweden and point it out as feat of failure" is what you seem to be saying.

The comment is, clearly, an answer not to single out Sweden but to single out your bizarre excuse:

Originally Posted by Mynydd

If we are speaking of the Nordic countries, do you mean success of their societies in the last few decades? Because you can't honestly say that they had any "successful societies" before mid 20th century or thereabouts.

And if you mean Finland, I can't honestly tell because I don't even know when --or if-- in Finland we can speak of a "successful society" at any point.

In any case, I wouldn't measure adaptiveness (or unadaptiveness thereof) in terms of just one given reason alone, just as I don't explain success or failure --or raise or decline-- for countries with just one reason.

It is very dishonest of you to twist it in a way to single me out as the villain here. You tried it once in an attempt to twist my words in a way that it would look that I was singling out Finland as a country with more mental diseases cases per capita when I had not even mentioned Finland nor was I referring to any country or region, but only a [yet another] cause which experts point to explain suicide.

This tells lots about you.

As for ad hominems, I have only pointed a reality which is your obsessive disorder about me, and which has been not just me who has been noticing it since long, but it has been pointed to me by a number of other people on various occasions.

There are, however, a number of direct ad hominem attacks. But those are in your post and have been made by you. Here:

Originally Posted by wilpuri

Your ignorance is quite amusing, as you try to separate Finland from the Nordic model. If Sweden can be considered a successful society at some point, then so can Finland. Your post was as ignorant as it was arrogant, and those two traits are your problems

You were banned for a similar misbehaviour and for the same obsessive disorder before. Then you asked Manji to tell me that you would behave and that I lifted the ban. Which I did. Without knowing that there is no cure.

It would be interesting to hear why Finland would not qualify.

Again, you put words in my mouth. This is what I said: "Not sure how Finland fits in."

What a deceiving character you are.

You need a lesson in what the concept of Norden is.

Let me put it more clear: I don't care.

After some time, "lessons" like the following lose their value for fun and enter the realm of the ridiculous:

Originally Posted by Finn

I tried to inform you that racial types and lingvistical groups can change cause of conquers.Like spanish conqistadors invaded south-america and gave native amerind and other racial types their ie language but in finlands case it was differently - corded nordid invadors invaded finland and changed our race but language remained.

I don't mind if you are unhappy with who you are, but I refuse to be bored much such "lessons".


Until you drop your obsession with chasing me around, you will be under moderation.