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Default Los aztecas se comieron a españoles

De hace un par de años, pero la he visto hace un momento. Aunque dice que la mayoría no eran españoles, sino cautivos de una caravana formada en su mayoría por porteadores mestizos, mulatos, mayas y caribes. Vaya hombre, con los pocos caribes que debieron quedar a raíz de su inmunodeficiencia a la gripe traida por los españoles, aún va a resultar que a los últimos se los merendaron los ancestros de los mejicanos.

No es posible imaginar lo que debió ser para algunos, en una espera de hasta seis meses para ser devorados por esos caníbales.

Y no es que se pueda arguir que no sabían lo que hacían, ya que por lo visto cuando se enteraron de que venían los españoles escondieron las pruebas de su orgía antropofágica.

Civilización azteca... ¡y un carajo!

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BOILED BONES SHOW AZTECS BUTCHERED, ATE INVADERS
By Catherine Bremer
Reuters
August 24, 2006


CALPULALPAN, Mexico - Skeletons found at an unearthed site in Mexico show Aztecs captured, ritually sacrificed and partially ate several hundred people travelling with invading Spanish forces in 1520.

Skulls and bones from the Tecuaque archaeological site near Mexico City show about 550 victims had their hearts ripped out by Aztec priests in ritual offerings, and were dismembered or had their bones boiled or scraped clean, experts say.

The findings support accounts of Aztecs capturing and killing a caravan of Spanish conquistadors and local men, women and children travelling with them in revenge for the murder of Cacamatzin, king of the Aztec empire's No. 2 city of Texcoco.

Experts say the discovery proves some Aztecs did resist the conquistadors led by explorer Hernan Cortes, even though history books say most welcomed the white-skinned horsemen in the belief they were returning Aztec gods.

"This is the first place that has so much evidence there was resistance to the conquest," said archaeologist Enrique Martinez, director of the dig at Calpulalpan in Tlaxcala state, near Texcoco.

"It shows it wasn't all submission. There was a fight."

The caravan was apparently captured because it was made up mostly of the mulatto, mestizo, Maya Indian and Caribbean men and women given to the Spanish as carriers and cooks when they landed in Mexico in 1519, and so was moving slowly.

The prisoners were kept in cages for months while Aztec priests from what is now Mexico City selected a few each day at dawn, held them down on a sacrificial slab, cut out their hearts and offered them up to various Aztec gods.

Some may have been given hallucinogenic mushrooms or pulque -- an alcoholic milky drink made from fermented cactus juice -- to numb them to what was about to happen.

TEETH MARKS

"It was a continuous sacrifice over six months. While the prisoners were listening to their companions being sacrificed, the next ones were being selected," Martinez said, standing in his lab amid boxes of bones, some of young children.

"You can only imagine what it was like for the last ones, who were left six months before being chosen, their anguish."

The priests and town elders, who performed the rituals on the steps of temples cut off by a perimeter wall, sometimes ate their victims' raw and bloody hearts or cooked flesh from their arms and legs once it dropped off the boiling bones.

Knife cuts and even teeth marks on the bones show which ones had meat stripped off to be eaten, Martinez said.

Some pregnant women in the group had their unborn babies stabbed inside their bellies as part of the ritual.

In Aztec times the site was called Zultepec, a town of white-stucco temples and homes where some 5,000 people grew maize and beans and produced pulque to sell to traders.

Priests had to be brought in for the ritual killings because human sacrifices had never before taken place there, Martinez said.

On hearing of the months-long massacre, Cortes renamed the town Tecuaque -- meaning "where people were eaten" in the indigenous Nahuatl language -- and sent an army to wipe out its people.

When they heard the Spanish were coming, the Zultepec Aztecs threw their victims' possessions down wells, unwittingly preserving buttons and jewellery for the archaeologists.

The team, which began work here in 1990, also found remains of domestic animals brought from Spain, like goats and pigs.

"They hid all the evidence," said Martinez. "Thanks to that act, we have been allowed to discover a chapter we were unaware of in the conquest of Mexico."
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La antropofagia de estos salvajes ya fue narrada por el conquistador Bernal Díaz del Castillo en su "Historia verdadera de la conquista de la Nueva España." Crónica de la expedición de Hernán Cortés y sus hombres por aquellas tierras, que Bernal narra como testigo directo que fue.
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Es encantadora la forma que tienen de darle la vuelta a las cosas. La noticia no es la confirmación de la antropofagia salvaje de los aztecas, tampoco el hecho de que la mayoría de sus víctimas no eran españoles. Lo notable para ellos es que "hubo resistencia" (¿no, en serio? ¡Primera noticia!... ). También es interesante la teoría de que los sacerdotes fueron llevados desde otro sitio porque allí no había. En que se basa esa afirmación es algo que no se señala en el artículo. Vamos, que en realidad los sacrificios eran rarísimos. Sólo unas decenas de miles para inaugurar el Gran Templo de Tenochtitlán, que tuvo por cierto hasta nueve ampliaciones. Fruslerías.

Qué c*br*n Mel Gibson. Mira que exagerar tanto. O ese otro manipulador, Bernal Díaz, que se inventaba todo lo que decía haber visto.
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Cierto que la película de Mel Gibson, Apocalypto, nos retrotrae a una época y a una región concretas, y nos presenta de una forma magistral la realidad de la vida de la mayoría de los nativos, carne de cañón y de sacrificio para una minoría. Y así se explica la Conquista española de Mesoamérica, que para la gran mayoría de los nativos fue una liberación de un infierno seguro, y que por tanto apoyaron.

Creo que aquí es de justicia hacer una comparación entre lo que fue el Imperio Romano, con lo que fueron estos imperios caciquiles. Al margen de los rigores de las conquistas romanas, que en Hispania como en muchos otros lugares fueron cruentas, el concepto de Romanitas y cómo éste se extendía a los pueblos conquistados no tiene parangón –ni aún de muy lejos– en estos imperios salvajes.

Por lo que a mí respecta, les pueden dar morcillas a Rigoberta Menchú y a cualquier asociación o movimiento indigenista basado en la autoexculpación de su propia miseria humana.

Y, por cierto, hablando de movimientos indigenistas, es patético hasta llegar al punto de comedia del ridículo, el indigenismo del grupo calavera de Daniel Ortega, Hugo Chávez, Evo Morales y demás johnny maracas. Ahora resulta que los criollos propietarios de grandes extensiones de terrenos, que se rebelaron contra el Imperio Español para poder campar a sus anchas sin ninguna ley que desde la Corona de España protegiera al indígena, como Simón Bolívar, son los santos protectores del indigenismo.

Vaya circo que tienen montado. Equilibristas, algunos. Payasos, los más.
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