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Related: The book IQ and Wealth of Nations by Dr. Richard Lynn and Dr. Tatu Vanhanen, father of the Finnish Prime Minister, studies the average IQ of 81 countries around the world. The top 10 countries with the highest average IQs are all in the Pacific Rim and Europe. The bottom 10 are all located in Sub-Saharan Africa. In countries like Jamaica, where the population is of Sub-Saharan decent with little to no Caucasian admixture, the average IQ is similar to that of the Sub-Sahara. Photo Below: Picture of the “Cape Cod Coloreds,” urbanized South Africans who have significant admixture of British, Dutch, and Indian(from India) blood. The “coloreds” constitute about 10% of the population of South Africa. Their average IQ mimics American blacks (who also have a large Caucasian admixture) and not other Sub-Saharan Africans. ![]() ![]() IQ and the Wealth of Nations by Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen |
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By the way, this should not be in the Anthropology forum but in the Genetics forum. It doesn't take much to figure.
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In addition, the title of this thread would imply that the differences are "largely genetic", but no genes(or even gene loci) were detected, that are responsible for the human intelligence. Human brain is much more complex, to measure its intelligence by the means of primitive IQ testing. I'd even compare that with a Neanderthal trying to run a nuclear power plant. |
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Well, the "Related" added part does indeed rest credibility to the whole thing. Notice that the post is copied and pasted from a site called the Council of Conservative Citizens, which is the one that apparently added the "Related" bit to the article
IQ differences in race are "largely genetic" says medical publication. | Council of Conservative Citizens and which, from what I've read through their site, it has all the looks of a WN attempt not to look much WN (yes, there's being some moves into that direction, from what I've heared, while still retaining the "real freak" in other sites). However, the claim of the genetic association is credible, or it states the obvious if you prefer it. Even when IQ test results have an important percentage of variables that is not concerned to anything related to genetics, but to social environment among others. Having said that, I do not think that these claims, whatever you make of them, are important or relevant to the issue of concern. Which is to us here that of ethnic preservation. So only under a strict American mentality can one understand that such things may become central to any political idea.. or pretended ideal. In other words, since we are about nothing, let us waste time while we can. Leaving this on a side, what I would call the attention upon from the publication of such articles among certain circles in the internet and outside of it, is the lack of publication of similar or parallel articles pointing to such issues within more homogenous populations (say ethnic or para-ethnic groups). But of course this could be not all that convenient to the said circles, as its analysis and discussion would very likely stir internal troubles and unveil a few uncomfortable realities that right now are hidden behind the focusing of attention on the articles that are more... commercial? at least for a given public.
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Dan Agin: Black and White in America I: The Tribal Hoax
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Vanhanen is actually an advocate of mongrelization. As is his son, the prime-minister, although he probably doesn't see it that way...
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One more proof of the utter hypocrisy of these fashionable "Academic racists".
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There are differences in people -- physical and mental -- and much of this difference is genetic, is hereditary. Also, the environment does select for certain qualities -- the Darwinian thesis. We cannot say much more than this with confidence. "Race" is an ill-defined construct; we have to be arbitrary in what constellations of genes we cluster together to define "race," and this segregation by race only serves ideological ends. "Intelligence" equally serves only ideological ends. Call the set of qualities that, for example, Nordic Europe selected for "intelligence" and then use that arbitrarily as a yardstick to judge everyone else. But we probably can assert with confidence, however, that an African is unlikely to do well in the set of tasks that would be expected of a European in Europe: his skill set for dealing with his environment is different. |
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Some things I agree with, some things I don't. I have both of Charles Murray's books on my shelf: The Bell Curve, and Human Accomplishment. The latter is out to show that most everything substantial in science, engineering, and the arts has been done by people of European descent. The moment anyone starts to probe the claims carefully -- as I did for the areas of math and physics (my areas of strength) -- he uncovers grave errors in the way Murray has selected, compiled, and presented his results. Clearly, the man wants to put across a pre-determined thesis and is fitting his facts and arguments to do so. And equally clearly, the man is no scholar -- i.e., someone with deep erudition and intellectual scruple.
So we can dismiss Murray as an intellectual lightweight with a clear partisan bias. At the same time, I cannot deny the evidence of my senses: there are differences. African-Americans are not the same as Americans of European descent. There are differences at the group level -- for the purposes of convenience I will call them "racial differences." These cannot be ascribed, in my ever-so-humble opinion, to cultural and economic differences. The difference lies at the race genetic level -- no matter how poorly such differences may be understood, or how inept the champions of race genetic arguments may be. We can dismiss Murray. We cannot so easily dismiss the work of Lynn, Rushton, and Jensen. Or at least I cannot. Their work resonates with me, is in accord with what my experience tells me. That they may have an ideological axe to grind is another matter. Just about every country in Sub-Saharan Africa is a failed or failing state. The moslem world, with over a billion people, hasn't produced one ranking university. India, with over 1bn people, doesn't have one university to compare to a Cambridge or MIT (the closest they have is the TIFR). |
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Caveat: I am of course not making the simple-minded racist claim that Europe and North America somehow represent the acme, the summit, of civilisational effort or human accomplishment. That would be risible indeed. |
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I don't see a problem with recognising differences in IQ. Both at the individual and at the group average levels. The problem comes when the group average is overstated and abused by a sector of the group in ways that deny the fact that the differences of individual IQs within a same group are in fact larger than among group averages.
Group averages must be acknowledged among other things to set quotas. A common problem with immigration is that IQ quotas are being globally decreased to accomodate outsiders to the group. A clear example of how wrong this can be is in the army. Imagine what are the consequences of having an army with a majority of individuals who are borderline or below the borders. Another example is in education. I don't think that at this stage anyone will be surprised if I mention that standards of education are being lowered, to accommodate the children of those outsiders to the group. Or that minimum quotas of outsiders are imposed to universities, forcing a racist bias in favour of the exogenous citizen and against the indigenous national. And this is something that has its reflection and consequences in all social aspects. However, it is just as wrong to ignore the differences among individuals, in a same group. The possibilities of development of individuals whose IQs are higher than the average must not be hindered by artificial ideas of equality.
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Too conjectural. Why did they need then so many centuries, nay, millennia to use this "potential"? An utterly lazy "race"? Which in itself speaks against potential (you know that stereotypical story about a talented but a lazy child, which almost inevitably ends up in the potential evaporating with time, being not used). All of the technical inventions (the dominant narrative of our times tends to see the modern technocratic world as the peak of humanity, an extremely controversial view, but let's for a second try to assess things from the viewpoint of those who see it as a supreme proof of "superiority") are only 200 years old.
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Of course you are not. But many of the Lynn and co. take it for a premise that a modern clerk of some multinational company, in grey suit and with extremely narrow minded view of the world, with some technocratically defined knowledge which enables him to function within his narrow area (but without any larger understanding of the world), that it is somehow the peak of humanity. You will rarely see that the cathedral of Chartres or some poet is invoked as sign of "superiority" or as any argument. And that is quite problematic. |
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