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Historical Revisionism Official History is written by the winners. Is it true History? Expose the falsities behind "officialist" Historiography and denounce them here.

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Default Astonishing Tales from the Holohoax

A selection of absurd stories told by Holohoax "eye witnesses".
Ernst Zundel has been held in solitary confinement for two years because he refuses to believe in this kind of crap.

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The Value of Testimony and Confessions Concerning the Holocaust

6. Examples of Absurd Claims Regarding the Alleged National Socialist Genocide[355]

child surviving six gassings in a gas chamber that never existed;[356]

woman survived three gassings because Nazis kept running out of gas;[357]

fairy tale of a bear and an eagle in a cage, eating one Jew per day;[358]

mass graves expelling geysers of blood;[359]

erupting and exploding mass graves;[360]

soap production from human fat with imprint "RIF " – ‘Reine Juden Seife’ (pure Jewish soap), solemn burial of soap;[361]

the SS made sausage in the crematoria out of human flesh (‘RIW’– ‘Reine Juden Wurst’?);[362]

lampshades, book covers, driving gloves for SS officers, saddles, riding breeches, house slippers, and ladies handbags of human skin;[363]

pornographic pictures on canvasses made of human skin;[364]

mummified human thumbs were used as light switches in the house of Ilse Koch, wife of KL commander Koch (Buchenwald);[365]

production of shrunken heads from bodies of inmates;[366]

acid or boiling-water baths to produce human skeletons;[367]

muscles cut from the legs of executed inmates contracted so strongly that they made the buckets jump about;[368]

an SS-father potshooting babies thrown into the air while 9-year old SS-daughter applauds and shrieks: "Papa, do it again; do it again, Papa!"[369]

Jewish children used by Hitler-Youth for target practice;[370]

wagons disappearing on an incline into the underground crematoria in Auschwitz (such facilities never existed);[371]

forcing prisoners to lick stairs clean, and collect garbage with their lips;[372]

injections into the eyes of inmates to change their eye color;[373]

first artificially fertilize women at Auschwitz, then gas them;[374]

torturing people in specially mass-produced "torture boxes" made by Krupp;[375]
torturing people by shooting at them with wooden bullets to make them talk;[376]

smacking people with special spanking machines;[377]

killing by drinking a glass of liquid hydrogen cyanide (which, scientifically considered, evaporates quickly and would endanger those who pouring it into said glass);[378]

killing people with poisoned soft drinks;[379]

underground mass extermination in enormous rooms, by means of high voltage electricity;[380]

blast 20,000 Jews into the twilight zone with atomic bombs;[381]

killing in vacuum chamber, hot steam or chlorine gas;[382]

mass murder in hot steam chamber;[383]

mass murder by tree cutting: forcing people to climb trees, then cutting the trees down;[384]

killing a boy by forcing him to eat sand;[385]

gassing Soviet POWs in a quarry;[386]

gas chambers on wheels in Treblinka, which dumped their victims directly into burning pits; delayed-action poison gas that allowed the victims to leave the gas chambers and walk to the mass graves by themselves;[387]

rapid-construction portable gas chamber sheds;[388]

beating people to death, then carrying out autopsies to see why they died;[389]

introduction of Zyklon gas into the gas chambers of Auschwitz through shower heads or from steel bottles;[390]

electrical conveyor-belt executions;[391]

bashing people’s brains in with a pedal-driven brain-bashing machine while listening to the radio;[392]

cremation of bodies in blast furnaces;[393]

cremation of human bodies using no fuel at all;[394]

skimming off boiling human fat from open-air cremation fires;[395]
mass graves containing hundreds of thousands of bodies, removed without a trace within a few weeks; a true miracle of improvisation on the part of the Germans;[396]

killing 840,000 Russian POWs at Sachsenhausen, and burning the bodies in 4 portable ovens;[397]

removal of corpses by means of blasting, i.e., blowing them up;[398]

SS bicycle races in the gas chamber of Birkenau;[399]

out of pity for complete strangers – a Jewish mother and her child – an SS-man leaps into the gas chamber voluntarily at the last second in order to die with them;[400]

blue haze after gassing with hydrogen cyanide (which is colorless);[401]

singing of national anthems and the Communist International by the victims in the gas chamber; evidence of atrocity propaganda of Communist origin;[402]

a twelve-year old boy giving an impressive and heroic speech in front of the other camp children before being ‘gassed’;[403]

filling the mouths of victims with cement to prevent them from singing patriotic or communist songs.[404]
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it did happen.it wasnt a hoax
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Reinhold, next thing you are going to say is that no jews were harmed during WWII and that the vast majority of NS propaganda wasn't aimed at them, using the figure of the Untermensch Juden as an escape-goat?
Damn, I find it hard to believe the whole lapmshade-made-of-skin and soap thingies but mankind is a sick and twisted bunch so I wouldn't discard some possible "horrors". After all, I guess you do believe there were camps made specifically to keep and dispose of ethnic/social/political minorities...or not?
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Reinhold, next thing you are going to say is that no jews were harmed during WWII and that the vast majority of NS propaganda wasn't aimed at them, using the figure of the Untermensch Juden as an escape-goat?
Damn, I find it hard to believe the whole lapmshade-made-of-skin and soap thingies but mankind is a sick and twisted bunch so I wouldn't discard some possible "horrors". After all, I guess you do believe there were camps made specifically to keep and dispose of ethnic/social/political minorities...or not?
Fair. But claiming that 6 million Jews were gassed during the war is at least an exaggeration. Also, claiming that "thousands" of people were gassed in a single day was just impossible given the circumstances.

I'm sure there were people murdered in the concentration camps, but there must have been a reason for it, name it the biggotry of some authority figure/s or (most likely) someone dissobeyed the orders of the authorities of the camps and was punished as a consecuence.

Whatever really happened back in those days, you can't deny that the whole issue has been manipulated in order to justify this current World Order imposed after the war, which we all "enjoy" nowadays...

Don't miss the big picture, of course it is a hoax.
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I agree, if 6 millions Jews died, why there are so many survivors? How many jews were living in europe before the war and after?

I think they surely were relegated in concentration camps and left in desperate conditions where many died of diseases and the like..but that there was no plan of mass extermination.
And they were not alone.. also Gypsies, Communist, etc were imprisoned with them too, why nobody talks about them??

That was cruel but not so different from what the others did...for example the Russians did the same with the prisoner of war of the Axes.
Out of 100.000 Italians that died on the Russian front 70.000 died in concentration camps and only 30.000 in war!!

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Reinhold, next thing you are going to say is that no jews were harmed during WWII and that the vast majority of NS propaganda wasn't aimed at them, using the figure of the Untermensch Juden as an escape-goat?
Of course harm came to Jews during the war; harm came to everyone in the most destructive war in history.
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Damn, I find it hard to believe the whole lapmshade-made-of-skin and soap thingies but mankind is a sick and twisted bunch so I wouldn't discard some possible "horrors". After all, I guess you do believe there were camps made specifically to keep and dispose of ethnic/social/political minorities...or not?
Of course there was a KZ system for the internment of political enemies and various other categories including Jews. There was also something called the Final Solution and it is very well documented. It was to be the eventual expulsion of all Jews from Western Europe. However, the gas chambers and gas vans are a myth. So also is the mass shooting of 1.5 million Jews in the East.
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I agree, if 6 millions Jews died, why there are so many survivors? How many jews were living in europe before the war and after?
Good point. does anyone have any official demographics for pre-war and post-war Jewish populations? I read somewhere that according to contemporary Jewish world almanacs that the Jewish population had increased significantly some years after the war from it's pre-war numbers which would be strange if 6 million had been killed.

Can anyone verify or debunk that?

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I think they surely were relegated in concentration camps and left in desperate conditions where many died of diseases and the like..but that there was no plan of mass extermination.
And they were not alone.. also Gypsies, Communist, etc were imprisoned with them too, why nobody talks about them??

That was cruel but not so different from what the others did...for example the Russians did the same with the prisoner of war of the Axes.
Out of 100.000 Italians that died on the Russian front 70.000 died in concentration camps and only 30.000 in war!!

Don't forget the slaughter of Polish Christians by Communist forces who allegedly had a disporportionate amount of Jews at the helm (Secret Police, etc)
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I think the whole "Oh my god, those evil Nazis!" thing is because the general idea is that Nazi Germany killed not only those who oppose the regime (enemies, both political and military) but they targeted a specific group (jews) for mass killing/virtual extinction. Keep in mind this is the prevalent idea, not my own.
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Here is something about Jewish demographics that I found among my documents, however I can't remember the original source.

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Meyers Handlexicon, Germany 1921 -- 11,600,000

World Almanac, 1925, pg. 752 -- 15,630,000, "In 1925 a census of Palestine gave a total of 115,151 Jews"

World Almanac, 1929, pg. 727 -- 15,630,000

National Council of Churches 1930 -- 15,600 ,000

March 24, 1933, jewish newspaper Daily Express -- 14,000,000 jews worldwide

World Almanac, 1933, pg. 419 -- 15,316,359, ["The estimate for Jews in the above table is for 1933, and is by the American Jewish Committee"

World Almanac, 1936, pg. 748 -- world jewish population = 15,753,633

World Almanac, 1938, pg. 510 -- world jewish population = 15,748,091, with 240,000 in Germany

American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 -- 15,600,000

World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359

World Almanac, 1941, pg. 510: World Jewish Population -- 15,748,091

World Almanac, 1942, pg. 849 -- 15,192,089, "Jews include Jews by race not necessarily by religion"

World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000

World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population -- 15,713,638

Statistical Handbook of Council of Churches USA 1951 -- 15,300,000

Encyclopedia Britannica's 1955 Book of the Year -- 11,627,450, "Jewish figures include all Jews whether members of a synagogue or not"

World Almanac, US News & World Report, 1983 population of jews -- 16,820,850

World Almanac, 1996, pg. 646: World Jewish Population -- 14,117,000

World Almanac & Book of Facts, 1989: World Jewish Population --18,080,000

World Almanac & Book of Facts, 2001: World Jewish Population -- 13,200,000
I had a more detailed explanation, in German though, but I can't seem to find it now through all the mess my PC is in...

Something else I have read was that such a "holocaust" was spoken about even prior to World War II. Here is a quote from The American Hebrew (New York, issue 582 of October 31, 1919):

"Six million men and women are dying ... eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, ... but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood. In this threatened holocaust of human life ..."
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Interesting statistics, thanks.
I read somewhere that the concept of Jewish holocaust is something which Jewish literature has historically claimed, even centuries ago. Apparantly there was some report of billions of Jews having been massacred at a time when the entire human population didn't even exceed that amount
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