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Hi,
I have talking with one etymologist (?*) Grzegorz Jagodzinski
about ethymology of my mother surname "Wardach". From most things what I have grasp he said that most propably that have germanic roots (I was thinkin' on old-polish), maybe even swedish (uncool) or even some far germanic like frisian (uncool). There was few things like phonetic changings like "v -> w" or/and "ch -> g" in Poland, and also in Sweden as says Karol Szajnocha Swedes have using more "ch" before "g", and also in Sweden was manierism from Germany mostly influce to use more "g". He said that can be even German but from some kind of dialect from Germany.
He said many more, but Im not so good to translate everything.
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The name of the river "Vardar" is a noun for which I have not really looked into all that much to discover its meaning. The Vardar is legendary and is mentioned often throughout history, according to Homer, the Paeonians lived alongside the river, " whose waters are the most beautiful that flow over the earth"--Ch. 2, 850-60. Pronounced as one word, "Vardar" literally means "Guardian, minder, carer", another dialect variant which is more common is "Vardach". It stems from the word "Vardi" which is "to mind, to guard, to care", could possibly been viewed as the gaurdian river by the natives. Another alternative would be spliting the word into two, thus you have "Var-Dar", this being the case we can still apply "guard, care" to "Var", but then "Dar" meaning gift would lead to a terminology such as "gift of care, gift of guardianship". Out of the two I would probably lean more towards the first example for it sounds more natural as one word.
Another thing what I have found
:: View topic - The Macedonian language, cont.
And he said thats possible, from old german "warda" what mean "guard" .
Wow
What do you think folks about it?
Btw. I have heard that in some germanic countries is "vardag" (work day?) and this same but with double dots on "a".


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Wardach sounds Germanic to me. Your ancestors were Germans, I think.

So you should change your anti-Germanic point of view

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In Swedish, Vaardag/Vårdag means 'spring day.'
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In Swedish, Vaardag/Vårdag means 'spring day.'
you mean season spring?
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Yes. It isn't a name, though, as far as I know.
I just asked a Swedish friend about Swedish names that start with var/vär/vår, etc. I will get back to you if I find anything interesting.
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It means that you are German Pole, man. Now I feel sorry for your self-identity.
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Yes. It isn't a name, though, as far as I know.
I just asked a Swedish friend about Swedish names that start with var/vär/vår, etc. I will get back to you if I find anything interesting.
I'll be thankfull for all interesing stuff
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It means that you are German Pole, man. Now I feel sorry for your self-identity.
I accept your apoligize (?)

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Wardach sounds Germanic to me. Your ancestors were Germans, I think.

So you should change your anti-Germanic point of view
Propably Germanic, but I dont know so German or other Germanic
Anyway I wasnt ever anti-germanic, I just dont like all especially these without sense of humour or these who likes stupid jokes
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Evidently, it's Klingon in origin
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Evidently, it's Klingon in origin
Wasnt Klingon a dialect from Star Trek ?
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Wasnt Klingon a dialect from Star Trek ?
Uhm......
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Wasnt Klingon a dialect from Star Trek ?
Yes, and it means that your mother's ancestors probably look like that :



Sorry.

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What is it then? Slavo-Germanic? Germano-Slavic?
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What is it then? Slavo-Germanic? Germano-Slavic?
Klingon?
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Since then I think you can be considered fully Slavic.
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Since then I think you can be considered fully Slavic.
That for sure ;-)
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