Are Nordic/Germanic members backseat passengers here?

[Silas]

He was strange...

[Franze]

The superiority of the nordic/germanic isn´t useful for the european unity. A unity for surviving in the current world. Because the nordic/germanic are few people and they are very brainwashed. Sadly their concepts have spreaded to the south of Europe with sucess but they aren´t original from here.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Silas

He was strange...

It was funny to see the comment and picture together! I thought "look who's talking you homicidal albino monk!"

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Peter

The superiority of the nordic/germanic isn´t useful for the european unity. A unity for surviving in the current world. Because the nordic/germanic are few people and they are very brainwashed.

It is through experience that I'm lately coming to the conclusion that we need an alternative plan.

Do et des. If you learn that you cannot expect reciprocity, then there is clearly something very wrong in the original plan and therefore you must absolutely reconsider.

Sadly their concepts have spreaded to the south of Europe with sucess but they aren´t original from here.

Yes. That too should be seriously considered for the design of an alternative plan.

[Franze]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

It is through experience that I'm lately coming to the conclusion that we need an alternative plan.

Do et des. If you learn that you cannot expect reciprocity, then there is clearly something very wrong in the original plan and therefore you must absolutely reconsider.

Yes. That too should be seriously considered for the design of an alternative plan.

Well, it seems that an alternative plan is necessary but which? I don´t know, all the times that Europe has tried to be united has been a great defeat.
I have a theory that is very near to the christianism( preach the Gospel to the nations) in christendom, the unity was religious, impressionant, but in wonderful projects like the Crusades, the national interests were being the main factor. Sadly!
In christian Europe, a proletariate dictatorship or ummah, isn´t possible. But now like we live in a Agnostic Europe the union could be possible, because we aren´t mainly christians, I don´t know.

[Menydh]

Hard to explain, perhaps not.

There is a.. let us call it an ethno-regional conflict in Europe as far as nationalist politics are concerned which, although it derives from a an existing ethnic issue/differences, it is artificially provoked and purposedly driven to unsuspected limits. It lies within the Nordic/Germanic spectrum.

"Plan A" would be based on the fact that the chance for nationalism in one country alone, or even a small group of countries, to gain success in Europe are zero or next to zero, without a wider support coming from other countries. This is a hard fact.

"Plan B" is based on [the also a fact] that cooperation with an identified groups is not possible and less so desirable. Therefore all efforts, well intentioned as they be, are a waste which only drains you out in the end. You know what you have to do when one part of a body is gangrened.

It is not an ideal solution, but it is at least a way out to a possible solution.

[Carnyx]

What's the point of preserving only one part of the body? I see none. Either we save them all, or none. Just my opinion.

[Errigal]

Speaking for myself, I find Stirpes a valuable resource. To be able to ask people from across Europe questions, and to sit in on debates like the current thread on ex-Yugoslavia and Austro-Hungary is fascinating. Being able to get things straight from the horse’s mouth is very rare.

If you feel that restricting membership is the way ahead then so be it; even if I don’t make the cut for geographic or religious reasons. I’d wish you good luck and be on my way. I have often thought of metaphors similar to your gangrene example when I wonder how to move political and cultural thinking forward.

Perhaps the answer is a new statement of principles.

[Menydh]

It is not Stirpes that I'm talking about here. Even if my views have changed as a result of the realisation of an underlying problem of a certain dimensions, which has come through long time observation and personal experience, the orientation of Stirpes still remains of a necessary value.

Not that "my views" have changed. That's not entirely correct.

My views (and those of many others) that it is absolutely necessary the promotion of a strong European wide cooperation among nationalists, built upon foundations of respect, responsibility and even of unselfish sacrifice, have not changed.

However, you cannot walk a long distance on live coals without burning your feet. And that has happened to me on a personal level.

Even if one is able to hold the pain and keep walking, on a 'collective' level there is the realisation that nothing is going to change in this respect and that you can expect nothing.

However, as far as Stirpes in concerned, the conflict lies in me staying as an Admin. Others are willing to keep walking the same path and are therefore more fit for the post.