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View Poll Results: Do you accept the new Ethnic Forum at stirpes.net "Indo-Iranians"?
Yes 1 5.00%
No 14 70.00%
Yes, i want to turn Stirpes into a pro multiracial, pro multicultural place, under the auspices of the grand Lodge of England 1 5.00%
As above, and I look forward to the new eurabian and eurafrican forums 0 0%
It's April fool but a month later 4 20.00%
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Please vote

Do you accept European government's pro-immigration and refugee placement policies?
Do you agree that a dramatic immigration-driven demographic transformation is enough to cause native European cultural extinction?
Do you support Middle East immigration into Europe as long as the immigrants are non-muslim or agnostic by choice?
Do you support muslim immigration as long as the immigrants are of the similar race?
Do you accept the active presence of Iranian (Exeter) among the members of European Nationalists Forums?
Do you accept the new Ethnic Forum at stirpes.net "Indo-Iranians"?
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European Ethnic Nationalists.

I don't think that Muslims, or non-Europeans such as Iranians belong in this category. As is the same for any non-European.
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Please vote

Do you accept European government's pro-immigration and refugee placement policies?
Do you agree that a dramatic immigration-driven demographic transformation is enough to cause native European cultural extinction?
Do you support Middle East immigration into Europe as long as the immigrants are non-muslim or agnostic by choice?
Do you support muslim immigration as long as the immigrants are of the similar race?
Do you accept the active presence of Iranian (Exeter) among the members of European Nationalists Forums?
Do you accept the new Ethnic Forum at stirpes.net "Indo-Iranians"?
You are starting to annoy us with your inclination to spamming. Please, calm down a bit.
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Yes, maybe another forum for Gypsies too!
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I don't think a separate forum is necessary, but I wouldn't mind if we indeed had immigrant members. I know that many immigrants are equally critical of multiculturalism and harbor more traditional outlooks. I think it could be potentially interesting to hear their side of the story, as long as it doesn't cause too much discontent.
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I know that many immigrants are equally critical of multiculturalism and harbor more traditional outlooks.
And if they're non-European immigrants, I encourage them to stick to those traditional outlooks, in their own countries however.
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And if they're non-European immigrants, I encourage them to stick to those traditional outlooks, in their own countries however.
That goes without saying.

I think that many second generation immigrants find themselves in a very strange place. Society wants them to assimilate, but they don't feel Dutch/Swedish/Spanish and aren't treated as such. They have one foot in their parents world, one in Europe. Some turn to radical Islamism, some to nationalism (Turks?), some become cosmopolitan citizens of the world.

Anyway, the discussions could be potentially fruitful. But perhaps this is not the place.
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I'm in full agreement with wilpuri here. Few immigrants won't hurt, actually I get along with some quite well, many are good persons, but confused about their identity.
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Norda, you haven't posted here since February 2006, with one exception in December 2006. What's your sudden interest in the health of Stirpes?

There is no such "Indo-Iranian" forum and we have been doing alright with a very limited number of non European members (included Muslims) posting, subject to their respect of the European ethnic boundaries.

In the case of Exeter, I told him 3-4 years ago which limits he should not trespass and he has respected the decision since then (on Skadi he was allowed to pass as a Swede, having the Swedish flag in his profile).
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Norda, you haven't posted here since February 2006, with one exception in December 2006. What's your sudden interest in the health of Stirpes?

There is no such "Indo-Iranian" forum and we have been doing alright with a very limited number of non European members (included Muslims) posting, subject to their respect of the European ethnic boundaries.

In the case of Exeter, I told him 3-4 years ago which limits he should not trespass and he has respected the decision since then (on Skadi he was allowed to pass as a Swede, having the Swedish flag in his profile).
A very friendly welcome as always.
Yes, I was having fun today about the hypocritic remarks of Exeter disregarding particular Armenian which soon was banned.
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Hell, it was too much for me.
Fraudulent Germanic ethnicity here is even funnier then Swedish flag in his profile at Sakdi. At least, he has been living somewhere in Sweden.
Just a question - are there more non European members here?

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A very friendly welcome as always.
Neither friendly nor unfriendly. Inquisitive, perhaps. It is not as if the first thing you said after your long absence was hello to old acquaintances.

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Barely, that I know of.
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That goes without saying.

I think that many second generation immigrants find themselves in a very strange place. Society wants them to assimilate, but they don't feel Dutch/Swedish/Spanish and aren't treated as such. They have one foot in their parents world, one in Europe. Some turn to radical Islamism, some to nationalism (Turks?), some become cosmopolitan citizens of the world.

Anyway, the discussions could be potentially fruitful. But perhaps this is not the place.
Good post. They are ostracised in Europe but have no other real identity to turn to: they no longer have even a foot in their parents' world: not linguistically, not culturally. Radical Islam is a sham, no solution at all. Unfortunately Stirpes is not the place for such people (it would change beyond recognition).

A strange place, this modern world. At least we should be glad of knowing who we are and where our roots lie.
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Neither friendly nor unfriendly. Inquisitive, perhaps. It is not as if the first thing you said after your long absence was hello to old acquaintances.
Shame on me. I should have started with this one first but it is never too late to say Hi ladies and gents!

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Barely, that I know of.

Oh so you tolerate them here while simultaneously claiming to oppose non-european immigration per se.
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No man, you sound like jewish crpyto-communist.

I don't think this discussion makes any sense.
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As far as I know the "per stirpes" is a law principle which specifies that each family branch of a group of beneficiaries is to receive an equal share of an estate. Here I think it's used in the meaning og heritage, ancestry, culture and tradions. I don't share any of these with Indians, Pakistanis, Zimbabwians and etc. But if you're keen on discussions with these guys, a website iloveafricans.com would be a good idea
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