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[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

There is no such disinformation, or demonization. Let's be honest, shall we? It is not like if you put forward constructive ideas to discuss. The way I see it, you seem to be on a line of deconstructionism. Not with much success, but still.

I am honest. I am definitely not here on a line of "deconstructionism", I merely made an inquiry into your definition of who is serious/responsible and worthy of a blog.

Originally Posted by Mynydd

If you are not clear about your direction or intentions, what's left to anyone is to analyze from what you write and place you where he sees that you fit best. But of course being unclear will always give you the possibility of denial. It is risk-free.

You are right that anyone can attempt to analyze me and so however they wish to. However, when someone actively misrepresents my standpoints in a discussion I participate in, I will not hesitate to correct the person.

[Der]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

These are blogs that integrate with the forums. You don't need to go to a different site and you control it all from your Stirpes user account.

But Der, I'm glad to know that you are not interested in having a blog on Stirpes. The idea is to have blogs for users who are in line with the goals and mission of Stirpes, so that we don't have to spend time moderating the blogs.

Indeed as it should be, otherwise it would be a complete waste of time and resources, that's why I wouldn't have the audacity to ask for one, everyone should know their place.

Originally Posted by Mynydd

You are very wrong if you believe that my intention is to marginalize you. On the contrary, my intention, if any, would be to see at which point we can meet within the limits of what's reasonable and realistic, and converge; so that you can be accommodated in the project without this being a source for conflicts.

And where say you I mean others as well. Like, for example, Der.

Oh... don't tell me that you think my posts are unreasonable.

Ok now seriously, like I've said above I would not apply for a Stirpes blog before hand because I know that I am not completely in line with the project, his is not to say that I don't agree with 90% of the contents of this board but it's true that I do hold some views which are not shared by everyone here, of course I will contribute as best I can: if I find something interesting and worth reading I will not hesitate on posting it, but mainly I am here to discuss and foremost learn.

Anyway blogging should only be for those with something interesting to say which is an unlikely thing at a young age like mine whether or not one is 100% in line with the Stirpes project, that’s why my general view on blogging isn't at all positive, there are millions of blogs out there which are nothing more than a waste of virtual resources and who is to say a good poster isn't a bad blogger.

oh by the way you can guess that I voted that blogging is gay.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Der

Indeed as it should be, otherwise it would be a complete waste of time and resources, that's why I wouldn't have the audacity to ask for one, everyone should know their place.

Der, I don't mean to be nasty here. I'll give you a better example. I had almost forgotten about it. No wonder.

Some guys, sometime ago, started a project of an alternative to the [red dominated] wikipedia. They called it Metapedia. If you want my opinion, they couldn't have taken a better name.

Anyway, it looked like an excellent project in my opinion. I agreed that I would organize the Spanish chapter. Unfortunately, I didn't have time for it and, when I went back to it I found over 700 "articles" (to give them a name) in Spanish. Now there are over 1,100. But don't take my word for it, and see it for yourself: Portada - Metapedia

As I had a look at the list of articles, what I found left me speechless. Just gibberish about Nazi, WN, and other oh-so-relevant stuff including God knows which battles in El Chaco War (South American stuff) and a few names of known Freemasons as heroic patriots from over there. Great.

As far as I'm concerned, I've never been there. I don't know what other language chapters are like. I've asked a few people, and some are better than others. Or the opposite, if you like.

Well, if you've had a look at it, would you say that it is serving a purpose, namely the purpose of offering an alternative to wikipedia? I would say no. Worse, if I were asked to compare I would have to admit that the purpose is defeated.

And I don't know if any of the other language chapters there is good enough to make a difference. But if it is, its purpose would be defeated in much part, because of the environment with which it is identified. Think of all the time and work, from the people who may have done things well, because others simply don't care.

By the way, isn't this comparable to society? Draw your own conclusions and be consequent with what you believe. I don't need you to tell me what your conclusions are. I might guess them sometime.

And I'm not putting you at their level. If I thought that you are there, we wouldn't even be having this argument. If we are having it, it is because I care. And, from what I've observed, I'd say that you care too.

Oh... don't tell me that you think my posts are unreasonable.

Not really. We haven't had time to exchange nearly a part of thoughts what I would like to. But from what little I've seen, you are not unreasonable.

Ok now seriously, like I've said above I would not apply for a Stirpes blog before hand because I know that I am not completely in line with the project, his is not to say that I don't agree with 90% of the contents of this board but it's true that I do hold some views which are not shared by everyone here, of course I will contribute as best I can: if I find something interesting and worth reading I will not hesitate on posting it, but mainly I am here to discuss and foremost learn.

I'm not going to review my own posts now, but whatever I've said it must be understood as follows: my wish is to find that point of convergence where you can integrate or accommodate into the project. Not to marginalize and set you apart from it.

Anyway blogging should only be for those with something interesting to say which is an unlikely thing at a young age like mine whether or not one is 100% in line with the Stirpes project, that’s why my general view on blogging isn't at all positive, there are millions of blogs out there which are nothing more than a waste of virtual resources and who is to say a good poster isn't a bad blogger.

I don't agree with you. Right now blogging is a good tool for broadcasting, if done correctly. And you don't have to be a pro. What is a pro if not someone who started from zero? You learn as you walk.

And the forums blogs can prove a good entry level for a next level of blogging, or even article or news writing.

oh by the way you can guess that I voted that blogging is gay.

Let me know when you are ready to come out of the closet.

[Kernunnos]

A blog is a serious responsibility. It takes time to update it. I already had one but I had to abandon it because of want of time. Actually I don't think many successful "free blogs" are just the work of part time citizen journalist, as claimed by the usual sheepish press: they are clearly editorial products, with a staff and somebody financing the writer (or ghost writers) for their time.

I would warn anybody: if you open a blog you must have time to write and as much time to research your pieces: one thing is to commment news from every part of the world, sharing useful ones, one other is to make news and opinions in first person.

Otherwise one could have a personal blog dedicated to one's thoughts and musings, it is a very nice things but again the writer walks a fine line: it must be interesting and well made, even if updated more rarely with rspect to blogs that are politically oriented.

The web is already full of unuseful personal blurb, so anybody wishing to take such enterprise should think twice, because he or she should grant a decent qualitative level, making sure to have something to say that could be interesting for others.

Ok, preach made.

As for myself, I couldn't take any serious initiative before our electoral campaign ends in April, I'm already working so and so on the regular forum.

[Martín Zalacaín]

Originally Posted by Breha

A blog is a serious responsibility. It takes time to update it. I already had one but I had to abandon it because of want of time. Actually I don't think many successful "free blogs" are just the work of part time citizen journalist, as claimed by the usual sheepish press: they are clearly editorial products, with a staff and somebody financing the writer (or ghost writers) for their time.

I would warn anybody: if you open a blog you must have time to write and as much time to research your pieces: one thing is to commment news from every part of the world, sharing useful ones, one other is to make news and opinions in first person.

Otherwise one could have a personal blog dedicated to one's thoughts and musings, it is a very nice things but again the writer walks a fine line: it must be interesting and well made, even if updated more rarely with rspect to blogs that are politically oriented.

The web is already full of unuseful personal blurb, so anybody wishing to take such enterprise should think twice, because he or she should grant a decent qualitative level, making sure to have something to say that could be interesting for others.

Ok, preach made.

As for myself, I couldn't take any serious initiative before our electoral campaign ends in April, I'm already working so and so on the regular forum.

That's the main reason I've never had a blog. I'm very uneducated and I'll have to spend a lot of time researching just to write a few meaningful lines. I feel like there's people out there (in this forum and outside it) that can express the ideas I uphold much better than I would.

[Kernunnos]

Originally Posted by Gonzalvus

That's the main reason I've never had a blog. I'm very uneducated and I'll have to spend a lot of time researching just to write a few meaningful lines. I feel like there's people out there (in this forum and outside it) that can express the ideas I uphold much better than I would.

Plse notice that I don't want to discourage anyone: on the contrary, I'm simply trying to point out in what manner such enterprise should be taken. there is nothing wrongest for a portal to have silly or half empty blogs hanging around to showcase a failure to any new reader.

[Martín Zalacaín]

Originally Posted by Breha

Plse notice that I don't want to discourage anyone: on the contrary, I'm simply trying to point out in what manner such enterprise should be taken. there is nothing wrongest for a portal to have silly or half empty blogs hanging around to showcase a failure to any new reader.

Maybe you tought I was being sarcastic? I wasn't. I mean what I said. To write anything meaningful I would have to research for a whole day. And still...

[Menydh]

I think that you two are missing the point. Please, bear with me for a moment while I share some ideas.

First of all, a blog is *not*, by definition, a professional editorial publication.

If the blog editor is a professional of the media, or if he is an academic, that blog will be different from another blog from someonone who is just logging his travel experiences, details of his everyday life (or weekly, or bi-weekly, or whenever he feels like he has something interesting to note down on the blog), or someone who wants to show off the marvels of his country and people (and so he can make categories: monuments, sightseeings, people & traditions / ethnology, historical events, you name it). Or someone who has an amateur knowledge of some trade, science or art, and he wants to share or to broadcast it.

Or someone who has personal thoughts of a philosophical, social, political or other nature. And so he writes down these thoughts, and comments on news or social events from around him, etc.

With respect to Stirpes, at present we are building up a community of people who already share their views in the form of forum discussions. But I'm sure that most of you will sometimes have felt that a discussion thread becomes a little chaotic to express a certain idea or view of your own, around a given subject. Often I feel constrained by the 'rythm' of the discussion.

Here is where the forums-integrated blogs offer an advantage over the more usual full-featured blogs: you already have a potential audience for your blog, both from the community of members and from the guest visitors.

They also offer the advantage of being hosted in a site that you already visit with a certain frequency. You don't have to visit a different website and log into it.

There are other small advantages. For example, from time to time I do some search engine and search directories optimization. This is commonly known as SEO, and it involves a number of techniques and tricks to improve the indexing of Stirpes in search engines or its inclusion in web directories. Part of this work is already done. We get a fair number of visits of spiders from google, msn, yahoo, askjeeves, and others, everyday. And there are engines and directories for blogs too, which I'll do my best to call in.

As a summary:

The blog is personal. If you are going to use it with a political purpose, a personal, or both, it is your decision alone. The only thing that is requested is that it is not used to go against the principles and the objects of the community where it is hosted.

[Delbáeth]

So am I right in assuming the Blogs are about ready?

[Susi]

Um, I was wondering if I could pleaaaaaase be added to the bloggers usergroup?

[Strengthandhonour]

I don't understand why some people are so bothered by the blogs.
I think they are an extremely nice feature. I have never seen any other web forum use it. No one is being forced to write a blog. Those who have the time and ability to do so, will do so. I for one, can't wait until I get some free time from school later this week so I can write my first entry.

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

I don't understand why some people are so bothered by the blogs.
I think they are an extremely nice feature. I have never seen any other web forum use it. No one is being forced to write a blog. Those who have the time and ability to do so, will do so. I for one, can't wait until I get some free time from school later this week so I can write my first entry.

Blogs arent exactly news, its been possible to get a free blog with a relatively good URL and virtually limitless space for entries for years. I for one wasnt really "bothered", I just made inquiry into how administratively it will be determined who "deserves" a blog, which in turn was interpreted as deconstrutionism. But I think most people that dont like it, dont like it because they feel that blogs are excessive and/or abused. Nevertheless, I dont have a problem with it.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Lutiferre

Blogs arent exactly news, its been possible to get a free blog with a relatively good URL and virtually limitless space for entries for years. I for one wasnt really "bothered"

He obviously means a new concept as in integrated with a forums board.

What's new here is that you start a blog within a community where you already discuss a variety of issues and themes, and where you already have "a potential public".

Roughly along the lines that I've discussed here: Stirpes Blogs

I just made inquiry into how administratively it will be determined who "deserves" a blog, which in turn was interpreted as deconstrutionism.

I don't think that you got the idea. It is not as simple as "deserving". This (Stirpes) is a project and it is very hard work to keep it within the limits of "acceptability". We can discuss about the exact meaning of acceptability if you want, but I assume that you already know what it means in this context.

It has been extremely hard in the past, with the discussion forums. I'm not sure if you could get an idea of what this has been, even if I told you. And though things are more or less settled now, the experience tells us that we cannot afford to be caught off guard.

With the blogs, there are a few things that change with respect to this issue, but the matter of the problem remains the same. Registration does not grant writing access to a blog. And that makes things easier. But even then, if we had to keep a constant monitorization and moderation of blogs, the workload would be excessive for us.

Be sure that whatever is achieved in a project by many in a long period of time, can be easily ruined by only a handful in a very short time.

Well, it is obvious that the measures that you need to apply to avoid this are not going to make you popular. But it has to be done.