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[Menydh]

The thread title is temporal and only to call your attention (Saxonian Knight's) to the thread.


You have accused me of "hating Northern Europeans", and you have done so in more than one post. Yet you have not provided one single evidence of me hating a group of people as large as are the people of Northern Europe.

The facts tell of a different story.

For a start, you started posting here short ago and you are a Staff member of NoFo, a forum that is in favour of a division between Northern and Southern Europeans (whatever they mean by northern and southern, which is not even clear to them, as it appears).

And as such, you have come to Stirpes to create disruption and to open an agenda of hostility.

I have never gone to NoFo with any agenda, and I will never do it. If I hated Northern Europeans, wouldn't it be one of the many places to go to disrupt, like you have done with Stirpes?

I have been since I was young into Nationalist political activism. And that's well over 20 years now. My concern for my nation, I have expanded it into a concern for other nations, from the south, north, east and west of Europe.

Because it is absolutely impossible that a single nation or a small group of nations in Europe will ever be able to stop the process of ethnic disintegration that they are suffering, I extended my ideals of Nationalism to those of pro-Europeanism. Also because I respect and like Europe as a land where there is a rich and varied diversity of ethnicities. Which means that I deeply care not only for my ethnic nation, but also for all the other nations within this framework known as Europe.

To this end, I created Stirpes as a place where people from different parts of Europe could gather to discuss and to exchange ideas, and to support each other. Something that you obviously hate, given your reduced view of things.

I have supported financially this forum without ever asking for a cent. And I intend to keep doing it despite the likes of you. I have actively supported this forum with hundreds of discussions, debates, articles, opinions, agreements, disagreements, ... forums moderation and administration, server administration and maintainance. Long hours indeed, for a few years now.

There are enough members of the Staff who are Northern Europeans, and with who I have developed a close relation and who I appreciate (and I am certain that they do appreciate me in turn). But according to you I hate Northern Europeans?

And all of it I've done it for what can be done of good to the nations of northern, southern, eastern and western Europe.

But you clearly hate this. You have already stated that you want division. No one asked you if you did, nor did anyone mention anything that might have you provoked to such a statement.

You had that statement in your agenda, and you had to type it loud to cause disruption. There is no other reason why you came here.

And further you accused me of "hating Northern Europeans". Of course you gave no reasons to support your defamation.

You said that you wanted to debate? Here you have one. Now debate how, in the light of all of the above written, you support your defamatory campaign against me, in my own forum.

Against your defamatory agenda, I present all of the above and there is more to come if you can stand one debate. And further, I accuse you of having no shame and of being utterly dishonest. You should be reviled by any group or nation with a little pride left.

[Menydh]

On a reminder note to Saxonian Knight, as it was you who challenged me to a debate I expect that you know how dishonourable it will be if you now crawl back to your hole and refuse to stand to your challenge.

[TiCon]

Dont worry, Iam always into debate, and not just only with my own kind of folk.

I surely will debate on everything, Germania, Multicul, why Theobald is not allowed at NoFo, everything, yet...

I have a lack of time and some serious health problems which takes my attention, on which I have to take many rest and not get involved in situation that might change my mood.

Hope you understand, Mynydd....

Will start the debate as soon as possible

[Menydh]

By all means. Do take your time.

I've made the thread sticky for convenience.

Of course other debates (Germania, multiculturalism, etc.) are possible. But those should take place on other threads, not on this one. The debate on this thread is necessarily the one that you started by throwing a defamatory and grievous accusation against my person without presenting any evidence for it, and against which I have contested with evidence of the opposite.

Be warned, however, that the debate is very unlikely to be a friendly one. Rather one much hostile, as hostile is the nature of the accusations that you threw against me.

As for why Theobald was prevented from accessing NoFo after a public invitation by one Staff member of that forum, I'm not sure if he will be interested in debating about it and, as far the general public interest goes although it is a triviality I believe that I can throw in something which might make it a little interesting.


In the meantime, I wish you well with your health problems.

[Menydh]

An important note here while Saxonian Knight searches through the forums in an effort to find bits and pieces that can help him maintain his defamatory campaign against me and against Stirpes. (Sorry S.K., but it is possible for Staff members to monitor your activity. And I'm glad to see that you seem to be getting better from your health problems. ):

I have deleted one post made by a Stirpes member because, although the post is inoffensive and it only contained a short and simple comment, it is only fair that the debate on this thread is between Saxonian Knight and myself, to avoid it degrading into a lynching of any of the parts, similar to the lynchings that were customary on other Northern supremacist forums that I need not mention.


Thank you in advance for your comprehension

[Menydh]

*bump*

[TiCon]

I'll get into it later today, within two or three hours. Need to do something more important now, but I'll give an full explanation of everything which has happend and my views on everything.

Untill later....

[TiCon]

Well, Mynydd, as promise to say a word:

First of all, I have serious health problems which made me occupied lately with other things, and which prefend me on high debates. I have to take medicines and need my rest.

Secondly, Iam not the same person as Iam when I joined Stirpes. I changed lately because of my healthproblems which make me see some things in other perspectives. Also, I have resigned as a mod on Nordfolk as I have an conflict with the Staff-leadership on a certain issue. They will no longer open the forum for Afrikaners. As a Dutch, Afrikaners are closely related to us Dutch and Flemish, as I also participate on some Afrikaner-forums. Because of the measure of the NoFo-leadership I resigned, because of the Afrikaner-issue, I dedicated more then a year many free hours to make NoFo into a great forum, I invited Dutch and Flemish comrades, I give my share of participation to make NoFo grow, but by excluding Afrikaners, something was broken, and I could no longer be a part of that forum anymore. I can not be involved in something on which I did not support 100%. By excluding Afrikaners, I just could not remain silent and continue to be a staffmember. It would be hypocrite and act against everything I believed in.

NoFo is a forum which concentrated on Northern European culture. I knew that, but Afrikaners as a people are incomparable with Americans and the NoFo-staffleadership just did not want to understand it. Though I have no hard feelings about it anymore, I felt earlier dissapointed and betrayed. NoFo is now the past, ancient history. There were other issues which I did not agree with the rest of the staff. I once suggested a Bretonese Subforum with Youenn as the mod, but no one supported me on this. Also what I find disturbing is the to quickly inactivating/deleting of accaunts when a member dont post for some time. That some one do not post for a few months can have a reason, I understood it was against lurkers, but still....

Because of my health and because of NoFo and because of one another thing which happend lately, but which I want to remain personly, also changed my ideas how I see the world. I will always consider Eastprussia as German land, as Iam partly German, and Eastprussian, but no longer do I have extreme imperialistic views. Iam sorry if I offended anyone. I changed, I did not give up my views completely as I can not accept the Oder-Neisse boundary as Germany's border, but for the rest I became more realistic, more to-earth and more with open eyes. When you have experienced what I did, almost died, it really change your world. Things which you thought were important are no longer that important anymore.

Iam sure the NoFo-staffleadership will probably hate me that I have now opened some of the issues which were only to be known to the NoFo-staffmembers, but I do not care. NoFo is history.

So, Mynydd, I hope you understand why I did not earlier respond on your comments, and as I will not do it now. I have changed, Iam sorry that we started painfully. Just understand that Iam not the same guy you founded here at Stirpes with his radicale, extreme ideas. Iam different now and its quite useless for me to respond on something on which I do not agree on anymore.

It is hard to explane everything correctly, English is not my native language, but I hope you understand what I have said.

[Blutwölfin]

Sorry to pop up in this discussion, I just want to leave a short message:

SK, since you do not support Nordfolk's idea anylonger, I would suggest you remove its URL from all your profiles and signatures. Thank you.

[Sergius]

Short version:

Originally Posted by Saxonian Knight

but no longer do I have extreme imperialistic views

Originally Posted by Blutwölfin

SK, since you do not support Nordfolk's idea anylonger

[Eldritch]

Not that it matters much anymore, but really to describe Nordfolk with the term "imperialistic" is nothing short of undiluted idiocy. SK himself was the first to admit that his English is less than great, but still. If you don't know what a word means, don't use it.

[Sergius]

Originally Posted by Eldritch

Not that it matters much anymore, but really to describe Nordfolk with the term "imperialistic" is nothing short of undiluted idiocy.

If you hadn't locked and sealed all the doors and windows from the inside, maybe you wouldn't have to listen to all the accusations.

[Menydh]

If as a member of the Staff his imperialistic/expansionist views were alright to you, but now that he has vowed that he no longer adheres to those views Blutwölfin (a Senior Staff there) says that he does not support Nordfolk's idea any longer, I can only assume that you are saying that it is Bulwölfin's comment that is nothing short of undiluted idiocy.

This is weird.. why would three members of the Staff of a forum that bears no relation to Stirpes come here to fight each other?

[Eldritch]

Originally Posted by Ljubomir

If you hadn't locked and sealed all the doors and windows from the inside, maybe you wouldn't have to listen to all the accusations.

Now that's the type of "debating" I can't stand: obscurantist, passive-aggressive hints from miserabilists who are too chicken to really speak their mind.

What, if anything, do you actually mean by that? I don't visit this forum much (and if this type of retardism is the stardard mode of discussion here, I haven't missed out on much), but has anyone here actually leveled any "accusations" against Nordfolk, except a for deranged ex-mod?

[Eldritch]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

If as a member of the Staff his imperialistic/expansionist views were alright to you, but now that he has vowed that he no longer adheres to those views Blutwölfin (a Senior Staff there) says that he does not support Nordfolk's idea any longer, I can only assume that you are saying that it is Bulwölfin's comment that is nothing short of undiluted idiocy.

This is weird.. why would three members of the Staff of a forum that bears no relation to Stirpes come here to fight each other?

Yes, very clever. I'm sure you think you are very orginal.

[Sergius]

Originally Posted by Eldritch

Now that's the type of "debating" I can't stand: obscurantist, passive-aggressive hints from miserabilists who are too chicken to really speak their mind.

Fair enough. And that is the type of debating that I personally do not care about. Please do not make assumptions about my person, particularly not while at the same time complaining about the type of debate this is.

Originally Posted by Eldritch

What, if anything, do you actually mean by that? I don't visit this forum much (and if this type of retardism is the stardard mode of discussion here, I haven't missed out on much), but has anyone here actually leveled any "accusations" against Nordfolk, except a for deranged ex-mod?

What I mean is that NoFo has very little information published about itself for the rest of us to read. That itself does not bother me, but you cannot be surprised that some of us outsiders who are not allowed inside hold certain ideas about your forum. Especially if, as in this case, the ideas are supported by the words of a member of the very forum (see SK's earlier post).