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Thursday, June 2nd, 2005
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Re: European Flag, please give your opinion
All the truly European lands are represented here:
 "The flower of the free The heather the heather The Bretons and Scots and Irish together The Manx and the Welsh and Cornish forever Six nations are we, all Celtic and free."
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences 
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Re: European Flag, please give your opinion
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 See? It's the tiny one next to the eagle of Tyrol, over the flags of Austria, modern and old Burgundy, and the lion of Brabant.
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'Dardanidae duri, quae uos a stirpe parentum prima tulit tellus, eadem uos ubere laeto
accipiet reduces. Antiquam exquirite matrem: hic domus Aeneae cunctis dominabitur oris, et nati natorum, et qui nascentur ab illis.'  We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. –Plato–
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Re: European Flag, please give your opinion
This one would make sense:
 
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"Do not be suprised, my friend, that I long so much for remote lands in which people feel immensely rich with very little; it is true that I live in Rome enjoying a life of fame and prestige, but it is also true that I was born from Celts and Iberians." --Marcus Valerius Martialis, Epigrammata
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AW: European Flag, please give your opinion
Arghh... you people are impossible
 OK, I'll join the "trolling" An ooold symbol:  or 
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Thursday, June 2nd, 2005
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Re: European Flag, please give your opinion
Now seriously..
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'Dardanidae duri, quae uos a stirpe parentum prima tulit tellus, eadem uos ubere laeto
accipiet reduces. Antiquam exquirite matrem: hic domus Aeneae cunctis dominabitur oris, et nati natorum, et qui nascentur ab illis.' We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. –Plato–
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Thursday, June 2nd, 2005
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Re: AW: European Flag, please give your opinion
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There's enough bull about the EU without making it the flag as well  Seriously though, Kohler's idea gets my vote. Good man yourself
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The traditions of the Irish people are the oldest of any race in Europe north and west of the Alps, and they themselves are the longest settled on their own soil - Edmund Curtis (A History of Ireland: From Earliest Times to 1922) The Irish are one of the most ancient nations that I know of at this end of the world, and are from as mighty a race as the world ever brought forth. For it is certain that Ireland hath had the use of letters very anciently and long before England; that they had letters anciently is nothing doubtful, for the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish. - Edmund Spenser (writer, and British Government Official in Ireland, AD 1596). The renaissance began in Ireland seven hundred years before it was known in Italy. And Armagh, the ecclesiastical capital of Ireland, was at one time the metropolis of civilisation. - Arsene Darmesteter, Professor of Old French and Literature Ireland can indeed lay claim to a great past; she can not only boast of having been the birthplace and abode of high culture in the fifth and sixth centuries . . . but also of having made strenous efforts in the seventh and up to the tenth century to spread her learning among the German and Romance peoples, thus forming the actual fountain of our present continental civilisation. - Heinrich Zimmer, Professor of Celtic and Sanskrit, Member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences
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Thursday, June 2nd, 2005
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Re: European Flag, please give your opinion
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 I'm immediately stopping the diplomatic relationships with ++Ireland++ !  More seriously, I really like this one (Eurocorps' flag) :  http://www.eurocorps.org/graphics/site/ec_start.jpg  Different flags and insignas : http://www.proeurope.org/main2.htm And for the Swarthy Greeks : http://www.proeurope.org/content/ioniccolumn.jpg
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My business is to succeed, and I am good at it. I create my Iliad by my actions, create it day by day. - Napoleon Bonaparte
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Re: European Flag, please give your opinion
Ahem...
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Friday, June 3rd, 2005
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Re: European Flag, please give your opinion
I think the best choices are the SPQR and the papal flag since both represent something that most Europeans can connect to
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"I failed my metaphysics exam when my teacher caught me looking into the soul of the boy next to me" Some find it in a flag, some in the beat of a drum Some with a book, and some with a gun Some in a kiss, and some on the march But if you're looking for Europe, best look in your heart -Sol Invictus
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Friday, June 3rd, 2005
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Re: European Flag, please give your opinion
I strongly disgress here. Not most Europeans can connect to the Vatican flag, and the matters of the temporal must be left to men.
In any case, I don't see why there should be a flag for Europe. I wonder how many here have ever felt any kind of attachment to the E.U. flag..  Not a flag that intends to substitute the symbols of the nations, but perhaps it would be nice to have a symbol that can represent an ideal, or a will.. a double head eagle that can be identified with both the East and the West.
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'Dardanidae duri, quae uos a stirpe parentum prima tulit tellus, eadem uos ubere laeto
accipiet reduces. Antiquam exquirite matrem: hic domus Aeneae cunctis dominabitur oris, et nati natorum, et qui nascentur ab illis.' We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. –Plato–
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Friday, June 3rd, 2005
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AW: European Flag, please give your opinion
I disagree with the Vatican flag or any flag that has religious connotations. There are religiously non-homogenous European nations. There are non-Catholic European nations. Then there are Europeans that feel absolutely no connection to the Catholic Church... or any Church, for that matter. If there has to be an European flag, I'd go for a more 'neutral' symbol (not sure what word to use here). An eagle... why not... Eagles have been represented on the flags of many nations and they are already consecrated symbols.
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