Historical Figures

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Cirrus

Concerning monarchs and dukes, it doesn't really matter : Louis XVI was less 'French' than Marie-Antoinette, for example.

Try to tell that to Spanish Nationalists, they won't agree. They aren't so fond of the Bourbons -or even the Habsbourgs.

I'm not arguing on whether it matters or not (even if I think it does, especially in this very contest*), I'm not arguing on whether one character was French or not (it's of no use especially when it pre-dates the birth of France), however what I'm trying to do is to decipher this identity.

The original detail is that Anne de Bretagne learned Breton, despite the Dukes of Brittany only spoked French since several centuries.

I've a relative who learned it. Can he be Breton? By the way, I'm seeing a pattern here.

* Opposing authentic Breton figures (or idols to use Frankiz's term) to pseudo French ones in order to discredit the accuracy of France's history and hence its veracity.

[Delbáeth]

I have quite a few, so I’ll start with Mary I, also known as Mary Queen of Scots. Near enough one of the greatest Monarchs of the Scottish Kingdom.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Queen_of_Scots

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

Try to tell that to Spanish Nationalists, they won't agree. They aren't so fond of the Bourbons -or even the Habsbourgs.

A Spanish Nationalist who knows well what his identity and tradition is, will know too that our true monarchs ceased with the arrival of the half-hispanic Carlos. And he will also be all for a foral/federal model of The Spains, according to our Tradition.

Else, a Spanish Patriot who does not know well, will believe that they were true Spanish monarchs and will vow for a jacobine (foreign) model of Spain.

Oh, and there there are those who think that the union with the Habsburgs brought us back into 'Europe' and that that was a good thing. I don't know how to define them... or maybe I do.

[Big Bwana]

Wat Tyler.

The English Peasants\' Revolt of 1381

[Big Bwana]

Thomas Carlyle.

Thomas Carlyle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia