Information on German political parties

[Ederico]

Dear Germans,

I'm recently trying to gather information on other political parties around Europe, from the centre to the right (even those termed "extremists" and whatever, I know the media) for a political project I have started in Malta.

I would like the opinion of German nationalists on the various political parties in Germany.

I'm particularly interested in the CDU, CSU, NPD and DVU and other like parties (having a lesser following or a regional character perhaps).

In your opinion, are the NPD and the DVU truly neo-nazis or allow phenomena like skinheads and similar within their ranks?

It would be better if you could state your ideological position in brief to give me an idea of your criteria of judgement.

I'm not scandalised in any manner whatsoever if you are a "neo-nazi", "nazi" or whatever, although I'd disagree with your views. I'm here to gather information and analyse the question exposed.

Viele danke,
Ederico.

[Aptrgangr]

Originally Posted by Ederico

Dear Germans,

I'm recently trying to gather information on other political parties around Europe, from the centre to the right (even those termed "extremists" and whatever, I know the media) for a political project I have started in Malta.

Did you check out their homepages resp. Wiki in English?
CDU Deutschlands - International

Originally Posted by Ederico

I would like the opinion of German nationalists on the various political parties in Germany.

They are all the same. Parties are just organizations of the ruling caste. It makes no difference whom you vote for. It has nothing to do with democracy.

Originally Posted by Ederico

I'm particularly interested in the CDU, CSU, NPD and DVU and other like parties (having a lesser following or a regional character perhaps).

The CSU is just a regional branch of the CDU.
The DVU is led by a millionaire named Frey - seems to be some sort of Neocon.
The NDP is fought be the FRG for being a possible oposition - hundreds of millions of tax money and the secret service help the government to fight it. The NPD itself struggles with several NS sects...

Originally Posted by Ederico

In your opinion, are the NPD and the DVU truly neo-nazis or allow phenomena like skinheads and similar within their ranks?

No, NS is strictly outlawed here, therefor no "legal" NS organizatios can exist. The DVU is a pro-FRG party, the NPD has nationalsocialistic thinking members.
"Nazi" is a combat-term used by the system-followers to bash independent thinkers, in order to crush them. Even conservatives are Nazis.
BTW - the CDU is no conservative party despite it is claimed it was - it is a leftwing-liberal multiculti-party.

Originally Posted by Ederico

It would be better if you could state your ideological position in brief to give me an idea of your criteria of judgement.

Germany for the Germans.
Crush EU and foreign rule.
More here:
How do you see your Nation, ideally ?

Originally Posted by Ederico

I'm not scandalised in any manner whatsoever if you are a "neo-nazi", "nazi" or whatever,

As soon as you demand plebiscites and an end of mass-immigration, one is a Nazi...

Originally Posted by Ederico

although I'd disagree with your views anyway.

What are your views?

Originally Posted by Ederico

I'm here to gather information and analyse the question exposed.

You chose the best an dmost informative forum to do that.

[Phlegethon]

OK, I will try to put it more clearly.

CDU and CSU are government parties with an allied license. Therefore, obviously, they defend the status quo, the holocaust state religion and a sycophantic "Right or wrong, my Israel". Recently there is some rift between the two parties, especially since the CSU was given a kick in the balls in the state elections last Sunday. 17% loss!

DVU: Basically a tax-evasion model for Mr. Frey, a real estate tycoon. His empire is dwindling though through the real estate crisis. because it is basically a scam you never get to hear or see anything of it. Frey has zig-zagged from support of the CDU, CSU, the liberal FDP and the NPD before he started his own party in the mid-80s. His father also got a pubishing license from the allied occupation government. Most likely the outfit was financed by CIA money as an anti-communist valve for former Nazis.

The NPD has turned from a national conservative party in the 1960s, when it was founded, to a party with a public image that is dominated by skinheads, nutzis and criminals. The truth is a bit different, but there is a real PR problem due to the weak and corrupt party leadership. Recently the treasurer of the party got convicted for defrauding the party of roughly 800,000 Euros. Apparently nobody ever checked the books.

Nevertheless the party holds seats in two state legislatures and is pretty strong in areas in the former GDR where mainstream political parties and trade unions do not play traditional roles like in the western part of Germany. In the western states it is still pretty much marginal, hovering around 1% of the vote, but recently getting slightly stronger even there.

[Marcus Marulus]

And what is your opinion about the Republikaner?

[Phlegethon]

The REP are history by now. Only a handful of halfway active local chapters in a few states still exist. Three quarters of Germany have no REP structures anymore. Even in their stronghold Bavaria they only scored 1.6% last week.

[Menydh]

Where did the lost votes of CSU go? CDU I assume?

I've heard people speculating that the maximum possible roof for the NPD in the FDR could be at 3%. The GDR being more difficult to predict.

[Phlegethon]

Originally Posted by Menydh

Where did the lost votes of CSU go? CDU I assume?

Heck, no, the CSU is the Bavarian folklore faction of the Christian Democratic movement, so to speak. They never run against each other in elections. On the other hand with such a weak showing the CSU might fail to win 5% of the vote on a national scale, thus failing to get elected to national and European parliament.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Phlegethon

Heck, no, the CSU is the Bavarian folklore faction of the Christian Democratic movement, so to speak. They never run against each other in elections. On the other hand with such a weak showing the CSU might fail to win 5% of the vote on a national scale, thus failing to get elected to national and European parliament.

Sorry, I was thinking in terms of Spain where the CDU-CSU alliance has always been a subject of discussion in some circles with relation to a possible alliance between the nation-wide PP and the Catalan CiU (or, rather, the UDC part of the CiU partnership).

[Phlegethon]

The main profiteers from the demise of the CSU were the Free Voters who ran for state parliament the first time. Free Voters associations are a very strong factor in local i.e. municipal politics, basically in the countryside and small towms. They are usually formed by local shopkeepers and small entrepeneurs, farmers, artisans and such. It will be interesting to find out how stable a coalition of independents which have to survive as a parliamentary group in state parliament will last.

[Ederico]

What are your views?

My views are synthetised in the 5 point vision of the new movement I founded on the 20th. September 2008 together with other 5 founders and signatories to our constituting statute. The English translation of the 5 point (very concise) vision is the following:

The five points of our vision

Our age

In our age, in the year 2008AD, the Gioventù Democratica Nazionalista is born in a Malta once known as Fior del Mondo.

The 5 points of our vision

The GDN is a manifestation of the spirit that moves our mission and the ideals that further move us in society for the good of our fatherland.

The GDN is a will of patriotic love with a spirit of justice and a voice of truth.

The GDN seeks to gather those young patriots that identify themselves in the traditions of our forefathers whom we hold most noble and enriching for our social and human heritage.

The GDN sees itself in the traditional and democratic Maltese nationalism, whom we hold as traditionalist yet social and popular, Roman Catholic Apostolic Christian yet secular, right-wing yet social, young yet disciplined, audacious yet tempered and most of all cultured yet without social distinctions.

The GDN is fundamentally Latin, that is why we hold with righteousness the use of Italian and Maltese as a means of national cultural redemption in the case of the former and popular national identity in the case of the latter, two complementary languages that are both ours.

You chose the best an dmost informative forum to do that.

I know, I'm sort of a founder here, though not active that much in recent years due to my own commitments and studies here.

[Routasydän]

Originally Posted by Ederico

My views are synthetised in the 5 point vision of the new movement I founded on the 20th. September 2008 together with other 5 founders and signatories to our constituting statute. The English translation of the 5 point (very concise) vision is the following:





I know, I'm sort of a founder here, though not active that much in recent years due to my own commitments and studies here.

Excellent!