NASHI movement for dictator Putin

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Phlegethon

One thing is for sure: AIDS, glue-sniffing and massive heroin addiction came only after the soviet Union. That is the other side of the medal. Capitalism and liberlism do not set you free - their totalitarian style is more subtle, but equally brutal in the long run.

Exactly! Modern liberal capitalistic totalitarianism is more dangerous than other kinds of totalitarianisms precisely because it is so "soft" and subtle. People tend to buy into the lie that they are free, but they actually aren't. The best slave (from the standpoint of his master) is the one who believes that he is "free."

[Kernunnos]

Originally Posted by I-Bleed-Russian

I don't like Lithuanians, I've met some decent ones in my lifetime, but out of the blue my first impression of a Lithuanian is a negative one, and don't give me that blank slate crap, everyone has a bias.

Could you substantiate your claims?

Lithuanians are conspicously absent from crime statistic and crime folklore.

For example, all the people in the world know of the italian mafia or of the russian mafia, just to talk about mine and your country's negative aspects.

I have never heard of any lithuanian organized crime ring.

Acting in so brutish way you are just giving your country a bad name, at least as far as your actions are concerned.

If you were the first russian I would met and I was just fifteen years old my first impression of russians would be very bad.

Well, let's say eight years old since by when i was ten I had already read "The captain's daughter" so i had classified the russians as the good guys and the tatar rebels as the bad ones.

Bout you would make me re-evaluate my judgement on tatars ...

[I-Bleed-Russian]

Lithuanians were one of the first Soviet Republics to complain, and after all their protests their country is anything but better.

Latvia is doing good, but Lithuania is horrible, they have THE HIGHEST SUICIDE RATE, for females, or rather they did last year.

This year they're 5th, big improvement: NationMaster - Statistics > Suicide rate > Females (Latest available) by country

[svin]

You can't say that country is doing bad judging by only one factor. It's stupid.

[I-Bleed-Russian]

Originally Posted by svin

You can't say that country is doing bad judging by only one factor. It's stupid.

Why do I always have to give people all the links?

Do your own research on their GDP Per Capita, their PPP and their HDI, it ain't all that high in any of those categories.

[Gavril]

The real question is whether or not that is because of the independence from Soviet Russia, or because of the Soviet rule.
Lame metaphore: if you keep a horse trapped inside the stables for years, and when it finally is freed, it cannot run, will you say "That's what I said all long!"?

[svin]

Why do I always have to give people all the links?

Their GDP is higher than Russia's GDP.

Anyway, independance is quite important thing for a nation. If not the most important. I don't see your point, anyway.

[I-Bleed-Russian]

Originally Posted by svin

Their GDP is higher than Russia's GDP.

I know, but that's because they have tens of millions of less citizens.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by I-Bleed-Russian

Why do I always have to give people all the links?

Do your own research on their GDP Per Capita, their PPP and their HDI, it ain't all that high in any of those categories.

If you make a statement, it is you who has to prove it right, not others.

Originally Posted by I-Bleed-Russian

I know, but that's because they have tens of millions of less citizens.

That's far from being a valid economics reason for their GDP per capita to be higher.

But if something, it would point to the advantage in being an independent small country over belonging to a huge federation.

[Cristoforo]

All the 3 Baltic states are doing better in the EU than under the USSR. Economic growth in these countries is fantastic (see below) and of course, being an ethno-nationalist, I prefer small homogeneously-ethnic nations. I still have to find one educated ethnic Estonian, ethnic Lithuanian or ethnic Latvian who wants to go back under communist USSR.

In 2004, for example, Estonia grew by 7.8% in gross domestic product, while Latvia grew by 8.5% and Lithuania by 7.3%. In 2005 economic growth accelerated even more, reaching 10.2% in Latvia, 10.5% in Estonia and 7.6% in Lithuania. All three countries by February 2006 saw their rates of unemployment falling below average EU values. Additionally, Estonia is among the ten most liberal economies in the world and in 2006 switched from being classified as an upper-middle income economy to a high-income economy by the World Bank. All three countries joined the European Union in May 2004, and all three are slated to adopt the Euro at some point around 2010.

Baltic Tiger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[kestutisturbo]

Originally Posted by Cristoforo

All the 3 Baltic states are doing better in the EU than under the USSR. Economic growth in these countries is fantastic (see below) and of course, being an ethno-nationalist, I prefer small homogeneously-ethnic nations. I still have to find one educated ethnic Estonian, ethnic Lithuanian or ethnic Latvian who wants to go back under communist USSR.

The problem is that during privatisation process in 1993 - 2000 in postSovietic countries the huge part of property appeared in the deep pockets of former comunist nomenclature and kgb officers. They live now extremly rich serving to the kremlin master still now, but 90 percent of lithuanians are extremly poor and survive becouse of EU support. This is why they voted in referendum for joining EU and NATO having a dream to escape from comunistic opressure. THANKS.

[rodion raskolnikov]

As Swiss Press reported it, Nashi movement would be legally able to act as an anti-riot force during the Russian elections...


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[svin]

as an anti-riot force during the Russian elections...

Retards and traitors.

[Loorberitega Pärjatu]

One of my best friends is half-Russian, I really admire his mother who is from Moscow nobility actually. If she goes to Moscow to see her old father she is always insulted because she is from "Pribaltika", an ethnic Russian is just blamed to live in Estonia, of course they have in some ways different words in their vocabulary, some loanwords from Estonian that a Moscower doesn't know, but... All the prices are doubled if you are not local, and of course you are "fascist".

I am hounoured to be a neighbour with the likes of Svin .

[svin]

The pressure that media makes on average people by posting articles on Baltic states is great. Many believe in everything, actually. Some have USSR nostalgie.

When I try to explain that it's not normal if you have been living in Estonia or Latvia during 50 years and hadn't learnt local language, then you are real retard and don't have any right to live there, some accuse me of russophobia. :/

I want to say that Baltic states shouldn't worry about imperialistic ideas of Russia. Or at least I think so. This rhetorics is simply a useful tool of our government, who robbed and humiliated our people, but at the same time it tries to make others' guilty: Balts, Ukrainians, USA, W.Europe etc. So that Russian people wouldn't think government as the main enemies.

It was really exciting to hear promises of our deputies to stop any trade with Estonia after the moving of the monument (to the cemetary!). The truth is that many of the deputies own business that involves trade with Estonia, for example. Now imagine
how funny many of their statements were.

[Loorberitega Pärjatu]

The "funniest" thing is that after Russia has put (unofficial) sanctions on oil transit via Estonia the ones who suffer are the local Russians. The workers on railways and ports are Russian-speaking in general... Well, but we know they are just fifth colonne and nobody cares about simple working class anyway, neither Estonian nor Russian government .

[svin]

Yes, I know. I think that the very East of Estonia (Narva) is mainly populated by Russians. So the main target are Russians again. Russian government really doesn't care about Russians abroad, because if it did, we already could get all Russians back. It would be better for us and for Estonia, Latvia and other countries. Also there are many Russians from Kazakhstan who face a lot of difficulties to move to Russia and to get citizenship.

But I thought these unofficial sanctions were just very short and populist move and were already over. No?
I don't think that any power on Earth can stop our current officials from filling their pockets with oil money.