Kosovo Reloaded: More American ammunition to resuscitate Cold War in Europe

[Menydh]

Kosovo Reloaded: More American ammunition to resuscitate the Cold War in Europe

June 10, 2007

The missiles and radars near to the borders with Russia with the excuse of being a line of defense against Iran, a country geographically located far away from the proposed location for military deployment, appear not to have been enough interference in Europe for the U.S. of America.

As Russian president Putin made a move away from escalating the conflict, formally proposing that the U.S. radars were deployed in a much better geostrategical region, in Azerbaijan, U.S. president Bush travelled to Albania this Sunday where he told that it is time for the Serbian province of Kosovo to be independent, "with or without Russia's agreement". This comes after Putin reassured Serbian president Kostunica that Russia's position to oppose the breakaway of the Serbian province of Albania, had not changed.

The deployment of the U.S. radars in Azerbaijan instead of the Czech Republic would allow the U.S. missiles to be deployed in Turkey instead of Poland. However, the excuses to reject the proposal have been quick, saying that the vicinity of Azerbaijan to Iran "could reduce the system's effectiveness against missile attacks from that country".

Leaving aside the arrogance of America's interference in European matters, and the fact that they are knowingly and willingly supporting not the indepence of a Muslim Kosovo, but the forseeable creation of a Muslim and pro-Turkish Greater Albania, it is easy to see how this new provocation will take things in Europe, if not to a new war, to a cold war with Russia dragged into it.

To the support of Turkey's entrance in the European Union, America has now added the infamy of announcing in Albania its intention to force the independence of Kosovo, as a clear sign to support the creation of a stronger Albanian state and, consequently, a stronger Turkey.

Clearly a big blow against those who have defended that America's (and Israel's) interests coincide with Europe's interests.

It is incidental that Bush said that "time is up" to force the independence of Kosovo precisely at a time when Germany under Angela Merkel and France under Nicolas Sarkozy, are friendly towards submission of Europe to America, and Tony Blair in the ever Atlanticist Britain is near to be replaced by a more pro-American option, Gordon Brown.

[Menydh]

Thinking about it, other precedents of America's support to Muslim states include their support to Morocco's march over the Spanish Sahara (Western Sahara) in 1975, and until today their support to Moroccan expansion in this territory against the desires of native Saharans.

If the U.S. manage to force the entry of Turkey in Europe, I have few doubt that their next candidate will be Morocco.

God Damn America!

The Commissioner for European Union enlargement, Olli Rehn, is pressing to accept Turkey in the E.U. with declarations like that if Sarkozy succeeds in blocking the entry of Turkey to the E.U., the consequence will be a clash of civilisations between Europe and Islam.

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[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Thinking about it, other precedents of America's support to Muslim states include their support to Morocco's march over the Spanish Sahara (Western Sahara) in 1975, and until today their support to Moroccan expansion in this territory against the desires of native Saharans.

If the U.S. manage to force the entry of Turkey in Europe, I have few doubt that their next candidate will be Morocco.

God Damn America!

Both Morocco and Israel applied for the European Community membership in 1980's didn't they?
I think they were turned down because they aren't situated on the European soil. At least that was official opinion of the EU..
Anyway, Morocco is a Major non-NATO ally of the USA, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Americans try to "smuggle" Morocco into EU.

[Monolith]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

The Commissioner for European Union enlargement, Olli Rehn, is pressing to accept Turkey in the E.U. with declarations like that if Sarkozy succeeds in blocking the entry of Turkey to the E.U., the consequence will be a clash of civilisations between Europe and Islam.

The clash of civilisations already exists, so it cannot be presented as a consequence of the eventual refusal of Turkey's membership.
Ollie Rehn is talking crap. He's just obeying his neo-liberal masters..
If Turkey becomes a member state,which I hope never happens, it will be the second most powerful member state.
Only Germany will have more votes then Turkey. No European, who calls himself/herself sane can tolerate that. Imagine the situation where Turkey has a power of veto on every decision that European member states make.
I call that unacceptable and unforgivable.

[Errigal]

Two reasons why the US and EU push so hard for Kosovar independence are:

1) It is a way to show the Muslim world they are fighting on their side in one region while they abuse and attack them in Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan.

2) It is a way to force submission on the "rogue state" of Serbia to teach everyone who's boss.

The US/EU are essentially trying to buy favour in the Muslim world by giving away what does not belong to them. Similarly they want to give away European jobs and security in order to strengthen the alliance with Turkey.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Bardyllis

The clash of civilisations already exists, so it cannot be presented as a consequence of the eventual refusal of Turkey's membership.

In fact what Ollie Rehn has done is a very low blackmail that I would have expected from a Turk, but not from a European: "either Europe accepts the Turks in, or Europe will be responsible for a forthcoming conflict."

If you think about it, it may even provide a moral pseudo-excuse for Islamics to take any action against Europe.

Ollie Rehn is talking crap. He's just obeying his neo-liberal masters..

I don't think that he obbeys his neo-liberal masters. He is one of them. His CV:

European Commission - Commissioner Olli Rehn - CV

To think that this is the ruling class of Europe leaves you with no hope.

If Turkey becomes a member state,which I hope never happens, it will be the second most powerful member state.
Only Germany will have more votes then Turkey.

You are right. There are near 60 million of Turks in Turkey. It's total population is of 71-72 million, the difference being immigrants in various European countries.

That makes it even worse. With nearly 3 million ethnic Turks in Germany, German politicians will pledge to the interests of Turkey in order to gain the support of such a large sector of Germany's citizens. In The Netherlands they are some 360,000 ethnic Turks, which is a considerable number for such a small country. Add to that the other Muslim ethnic groups, which can lobby with the interests of Turkey. Austria hosts 185,000 Turks within a total population significantly smaller than that of The Netherlands and, clearly, Germany. In Bulgaria, with 760,000, they make up for about 10% of the total population.

France has 400,000, but there Maghrebians are a much larger group. Belgium 120,000 in a population of 10.5 million. Maghrebians are also a large number in Belgium. Britain has 300,000, and there the larger groups are Pakistanis and others.

To the Turks, add the Albanians. There are 450,000 in Greece. I haven't been able to find data on Italy, but there is a significant number of Albanian immigrants there. And they are spread through other countries in Europe, where they are one of the nastiest criminal ethnicities.

No European, who calls himself/herself sane can tolerate that. Imagine the situation where Turkey has a power of veto on every decision that European member states make.
I call that unacceptable and unforgivable.

Absolutely.

[Lucas Corso]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

As you can see from the pic bandits work well together...together with Albanians, well-known Turkish lackeys
I hope Russia will have enough strength to prevent the creation of another mafia-state like Kosovo in Europe...
After Kosovo next stop will be the Albanians in Montenegro and Macedonia, they want to create a belt of Muslim states to break the Balkans and so damage direct oil and gas connection from Russia...
And after Albanians there are also the Turks in Bulgaria, they'll have a lot of work if someone will not stop them in Kosovo.

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Errigal

Two reasons why the US and EU push so hard for Kosovar independence are:

1) It is a way to show the Muslim world they are fighting on their side in one region while they abuse and attack them in Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan.

2) It is a way to force submission on the "rogue state" of Serbia to teach everyone who's boss.

The US/EU are essentially trying to buy favour in the Muslim world by giving away what does not belong to them. Similarly they want to give away European jobs and security in order to strengthen the alliance with Turkey.

I've read commentaries in which people argue this will not be the result and Muslims will continue hating America.