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French presidential candidate Sarkozy prefers U.S. to Russia


15:55 | 18/ 04/ 2007
PARIS, April 18 (RIA Novosti) - The candidate most likely to become the next French president said Wednesday that he would prefer forging closer relations with the United States rather than Russia.
Nikolas Sarkozy is the leader of the ruling right-of-center party UMP and the former interior minister who stepped down in March to focus on his presidential bid in the upcoming election.
"If you want to know which one is closer to me - the U.S. or Russia, which we saw in action in Chechnya - I will say the U.S.," the candidate said.
During its two military campaigns against a separatist regime in the North Caucasus republic of Chechnya in the mid-1990s through the early 2000s, Russia faced widespread international criticism for alleged human rights violations committed against Chechen civilians.
Sarkozy said France must develop friendly relations with the U.S., but at the same time must be free to level criticism against the country when needed.
"I tell great powers, including the U.S., that they are mistaken because they have not signed the Kyoto Protocol and that they are wrong in Iraq. But we have common values, such as democracy," Sarkozy said.
Opinion polls have given Sarkozy 27% of the votes. He is followed by Socialist Party candidate Segolene Royal, with 23% of the votes, and Francois Bayrou from the centrist Union for French Democracy with 19%.
The first round has been scheduled for April 22 and the second for May 6 if there is no outright winner.



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Well, don't want to sound too stormfrontish but what else do you expect from a Hungarian Jew? But it's not his dislike of Russia should worry French, rather his admiration of the US.

I wonder what if he really wins the election. That would be humiliation.
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There is an interesting website (in French):

www.toutsaufsarkozy.com

"Tout sauf Sarkozy" (all except Sarkozy)
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I would like a lot to hear some french reply
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His statements don't surprise me too much. It's an oath of allegence. I think had we had him for President in 2003, he would have send Frenchmen to death in Irak.

Russia or America? Russia, of course.
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I would say all the bad people outside France seem to like Sarcozy. By that I mean all the commentators who were for the war on Iraq, who are for bombing Iran, who supported Israel's bombing of Lebanon, who hype stories about Putin turning into a new dictator; they are the ones who prefer Sarko. In brief, he is the choice of troublemaking Jews and their friends.
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Sarkozy is usually classified as neo-Degaullist. Probably De Gaulle is spinning in his grave.
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Sarkozy is usually classified as neo-Degaullist. Probably De Gaulle is spinning in his grave.
I think that the spinning is so fast that he has already reached the Earth Centre
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Well, everyone deserves some friends...


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I wonder what you French guys think of the other candidates who have a chance in the second round against Sarkozy? Are any of them a choice with which you would feel comfortable? François Bayrou seems at least to be "français de souche" even if he's not "français de Stirpes".
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Bayrou is a Protestant.
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In brief, he is the choice of troublemaking Jews and their friends.
He is jew himself, normaly that they support him.
You can see it even on wikipedia.
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There is an interesting website (in French):

TOUT SAUF SARKOZY :: POUR LA DÉFENSE DES VALEURS RÉPUBLICAINES

"Tout sauf Sarkozy" (all except Sarkozy)
I'd say anyone but Sarkoz and Segolene Royal. I mean Sarkozy seem's bent on americanizing france and Segolene Royal seems bent on allowing more immigrants and destroying the french economy. Any one else it seem's will be better.
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Sarkozy is usually classified as neo-Degaullist. Probably De Gaulle is spinning in his grave.
Saying that Sarkozy is a neo-Gaullist is an insult to the memory of De Gaulle.
Sarkozy is the leader of the liberal wing inside the UMP (majoritary, about 80%), while the Gaullist wing is represented by Nicolas Dupont-Aignan (15-20%). Actually I think that - from a political point of view - there could be an alliance between Le Pen, De Villers and this Gaullist wing, an "Union of the Patriots" as suggested by Le Pen, which could attract up to one third of the voters and become the first political force in France.

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I wonder what you French guys think of the other candidates who have a chance in the second round against Sarkozy? Are any of them a choice with which you would feel comfortable?
No. Bayrou is just a liberal without the authoritarian (others say "fascist") side of Sarkozy. The fact that he is an ethnic French does not change anything. He is a centrist, I don't like people who have no real ideas of their own.
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Bayrou is a Protestant.
So am I but from a different branch than him, I would imagine. French Protestants are almost exclusively Calvinists from my understanding. Anyway, I'm not running for President of France. Do you think he's any good as a candidate?
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So am I but from a different branch than him, I would imagine. French Protestants are almost exclusively Calvinists from my understanding. Anyway, I'm not running for President of France.
Yes, my point, exactly. I know Theobald disagrees with me.

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I don't think so, he's over rated. But it's just my opinion. We'll see Sunday evening, though. If he passed, oh well...

One scenario could be that the Fench might want to try a different guy of a different party (that has not been in power for long) as they want changes but without sacrifice and without having to use extrem solutions as they still believe we can do it with soft measures and mainstream politics.
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