Should Iran be allowed to develop the Bomb?

[Caesar Princeps]

Originally Posted by prometheus

I am terrified at the very thought of a world where many countries possess such weapons of mass destruction. I wish no country had any!

But that would be the ideal state of affairs. In the current state of world affairs, if some countries appropriate to themsleves the right to have these weapons, why should it be denied to others?

So I voted yes.

If there were a poll where a question would be whether there should be nuclear weapons at all, I would certainly vote no.

Because these weapons are diabolic tools and war is not the same as it used to be. There can be no gallantry, no chivalry, no honour in the modern warfare, just plain and simple destruction nad mass-murder...

You are right. In fact, I voted on maybe, since Iran could be both useful to keep at bay Zionists' ambitions and dangerous for European Nations.
Anyway, an alliance of European Nations should count on French and Russian and (possibly) British nukes as a deterrent.

[M.R.]

No, because they're Muslims.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Panonski

No, because they're Muslims.

Pakistan, an Islamic country (possibly much more "Islamic" than Iran) possesses nuclear weapons and has a delivery system for bombs and warheads, while Iran hasn't any nukes, we cannot know if they are developping them or not (American and Zionist propaganda says they are, but these are unreliable sources).

Even if it were true that Iran wants nuclear weapons, they wouldn't be able to develop the necessary pre-requisites for that for a long time to come. They are just using nuclear energy for civil purposes, for now. Moreover: even if Iranians had the bomb, they haven't any delivery system (how to transport it and drop it somewhere).

So why is everyone so concerned with Iran and almost no-one with Pakistan?

[Kernunnos]

A moslem country with nukes? Never. For me non european countries who are opposed to Europe should never get anything better than guns for local police. When moslem are powerful enough they use their power to conquer, as it is in their political DNA. It is absurd that we are celebrating Ronsisval and then be happy ofr a moslem country getting able to use nukes. Obviously I\'m extremely unhappy (euphemism) for their possession by Israel. But this latter unfortunate circumstance will not make me a supporter of any moslem military might. I would gladly see all the middle easterners, moslem and hebrew back to the stick and stones era.

[Kernunnos]

Originally Posted by tankistabg

thats more like a warning to us - the white people. he said it because it might actually happen. That will be the result of the "multyculturism".

A pakistani once showed a lot of defiance to me because of the the pakistani bomb. He told em they are not afraid of us anymore, and that he considerede pakistan superior to Italy and other european countries because we do not have the bomb. He was dating a white girl BTW. Try to meditate, folks. They feel a lot of pride out of nuclear power, if Iran gained it they wouldn\\\'t be stoppable anymore. The enemy of my enemy is an enemy also. Hard to admit to but it is the truth so it is better if we deal with it.

[M.R.]

Originally Posted by prometheus

Pakistan, an Islamic country (possibly much more "Islamic" than Iran) possesses nuclear weapons and has a delivery system for bombs and warheads, while Iran hasn't any nukes, we cannot know if they are developping them or not (American and Zionist propaganda says they are, but these are unreliable sources).

Even if it were true that Iran wants nuclear weapons, they wouldn't be able to develop the necessary time for a long time to come. They are just using nuclear energy for civil purposes, for now. Moreover: even if Iranians had the bomb, they haven't any delivery system (how to transport it and drop it somewhere).

So why is everyone so concerned with Iran and almost no-one with Pakistan?

I never said Pakistan should be allowed to develop the Bomb.

[Kernunnos]

Originally Posted by Panonski

I never said Pakistan should be allowed to develop the Bomb.

That is already a problem, Pakistan is ever on the brink of collapsing into an islamist regime. What would be the islamic power if Pakisan turned nto a quaedist stronghold with nuclear capabilities? A nightmare already, so let\'s not think well of iranian nukes.

[Marcus Marulus]

Originally Posted by Breha

A moslem country with nukes? Never. For me non european countries who are opposed to Europe should never get anything better than guns for local police. When moslem are powerful enough they use their power to conquer, as it is in their political DNA. It is absurd that we are celebrating Ronsisval and then be happy ofr a moslem country getting able to use nukes. Obviously I\'m extremely unhappy (euphemism) for their possession by Israel. But this latter unfortunate circumstance will not make me a supporter of any moslem military might. I would gladly see all the middle easterners, moslem and hebrew back to the stick and stones era.

Europe should become militarily powerfull again in order to ward off a possible menace coming form any side. That should be rather a concern of European nationalists, rather than "stopping" any country having nuclear weapons. Anyway, in its present state, Europe is not able not stop anything or anyone, it is not able to stop its own decay, let alone impose its conditions on others.

The current affair is between Yankee Judaea (US) and Israel on one, and Iran on the other side.

Originally Posted by Breha

A pakistani once showed a lot of defiance to me because of the the pakistani bomb. He told me they are not afraid of us anymore, and that he considerede pakistan superior to Italy and other european countries because we do not have the bomb.

And this Pakistani is right. Today's Europe is extremely weak, it is subservient to the political correctness on one side, and to the American military power on the other side. Europe is disarmed and has American military bases on its territory. Europe is destroying itself.

Originally Posted by Breha

He was dating a white girl BTW. Try to meditate, folks.

And that is that girl's fault: normal European women don't date aliens...

Originally Posted by Breha

They feel a lot of pride out of nuclear power, if Iran gained it they wouldn\\\'t be stoppable anymore.

If, if, if... Iran is not devloping nuclear weapons. Iran is militarily quite weak. Iran is today victim of USA/Zion, as any European country could become victim too, if it decided to shake off the Yankee Judaean tyranny and to institute the true nationalist government. Yankee Judaean occcupational forces are here in Europe in order to stop any European country from gaining the true independence.

Originally Posted by Panonski

I never said Pakistan should be allowed to develop the Bomb.

I never said you said something like that, but I was just wondering why is the focus of world media laid upon the Iranian non-existing nuclear weapons, while no-one seems to bother with the existing Pakistani bombs.

Originally Posted by Breha

That is already a problem, Pakistan is ever on the brink of collapsing into an islamist regime. What would be the islamic power if Pakisan turned nto a quaedist stronghold with nuclear capabilities? A nightmare already, so let\'s not think well of iranian nukes.

Pakistan is officially Islamic Republic sonce its founding (1947), it is much older than the Islamic Republic of Iran (1979).

As for Al Qaeda: Al Qaeda does not exist! It is a spook invented by Americans in order to justify their wars.

[Kernunnos]

Al Qaeda or islamism, same stuff, islam has been a menace for 1400 years and its habits are not an invention of the zoggies. I don\'t get this spirit of believing that all that goes against ZionUs is good. We are actually in a snake pit, that\'s for sure, but there are no serpents that are better than the others. Instead many among us are drinking leftist-moslem conspirationist stuff that is just making us forget that the moslem enemy is as much powerful as the zionist one. The zionists have bombs but moslem have faith, wombs and a lot of fifth column western traitors helping them getting in. The pride they take in nuclear weapon and the moral boost deriving from it is immense. It is very easy to grab but I see that many seem to be thinking that the rise of a nuclear islam will be for good. It will be just another beast that will make immigration unstoppable, possibly forcing us into the hands of the zionyankees even more when time comes for getting rid of Europe based moslems. If they still feel inferior when they are in Europe very soon they will feel not, if a couple of islamist powerful states will provide them with political support by pressuring our coward governements into granting them more and more political power in Europe. As of Pakistan, its is islamic but not an islamist republic as of yet. The difference is not great , sure, but this must be considered a further cause for preoccupation, since they are a key local power.