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After years of violence and diplomatic wrangling, Kosovo, on February 17th, declared its independence, and within a day the world's most powerful nation, the United States, congratulated and recognized the newborn state. Britain also immediately recognized the war-torn nation, and in the days and weeks to come other big and wealthy nations would do likewise: France, Germany, Italy and Australia and two dozen others have all recognized Kosovo's sovereignty, representing, by one count, just more than half the world's GDP, and a majority of the members of NATO and the European Union.

But those figures obscure a central fact: while Kosovo has largely won its battle for recognition in Europe, Serbia is winning over the rest of the world. The vast majority of the United Nations' 192 members have withheld recognition, either by silence or explicit rejection. Brazil, China and India have all thus far refused to recognize the nascent nation, and Russia has not only rejected Kosovo's independence, but has become Serbia's proxy at the U.N. Security Council, vowing to veto any resolutions that would help clarify its status or grant Kosovo the ultimate symbol of sovereignty: a seat at the United Nations itself. Even some stalwart U.S. allies have rejected or remained silent on the Kosovo question, including Israel and Canada, as well as members of the European Union and NATO such as Spain, Cyprus and Slovakia.
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"If President Milosevic continues to choose aggression over peace, NATO's military plans must continue to move forward," President Clinton told reporters on the White House lawn. "Our objective in Kosovo remains clear: to stop the killing and achieve a durable peace that restores Kosovars to self-government.

For anyone even vaguely familiar with the doublespeak of George Orwell's famous book 1984 Clinton's words ring with so much irony that it is deafening. To stop the killing Clinton will kill Serbian people until they accept his terms. To achieve a durable peace he will begin a war against the nation of Yugoslavia. To Arestore self-government he must destroy the current lawful government of another nation and institute a foreign government conceived by non-Yugoslavian people. Is this the president of the United States talking or some sex craved maniac with cruise missiles at his disposal?

Humane concerns Clinton says. Let the world not forget that it was Bill Clinton who unleashed tanks, fire and bullets against peaceful church members in Waco, Texas killing eighty men, women and children without a tinge of regret, conscience, or sorrow. Now this baby killing, church burning, drug using, draft dodging, woman raping, perjuring lying adulterer---who calls himself the President of the United States has begun killing Europeans in the name of the American people!

The United States under Bill Clinton has become a terrorist country. Unleashing cruise missiles, bombs, fire, death and destruction upon the heads of people from one side of the world to the other. As our once proud flag is sullied and disgraced by these murderous acts; the world looks upon us here in the United States as cruel people who at the flick of a switch are ready to destroy the lives and homes of people they have never met and whom have never harmed them.

What the United States and NATO are engaging in is nothing less than naked aggression against a foreign state. The same sort of aggression that started World War II.

The bombing of this small European country is ugly terrorism of the worst sort. When here in the United States Timothy McVeigh bombed the Federal Building in Oklahoma City with a single rental truck loaded with explosives---killing men, women and children----he justified his act by saying he was sending the government a warning. President Bill Clinton and his mad bombers in Washington D.C. have unleashed on Serbian people the very first night of the bombing an equivalent of 865 Ryder rental trucks filled with explosives and used the exact same justification to kill! We are sending the government of Yugoslavia a message that they must negotiate Clinton told CNN News. His message of death like that of McVeigh, will destroy the lives of people who have harmed no one.
No terrorist group in the world has exploded more bombs, killed more people, destroyed more factories, shopping centers, schools, building and homes than the Pentagon has under Bill Clinton. We have become the chief terrorists of the world. Alas! Such complete shame, dishonour and disgrace upon the great country founded by George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
That the United States of America has sunken so low as to be lead by such a disgraceful pervert as Clinton is a sure sign that we are near the end of our once great civilization and nation. And a warning: the American people are not without guilt in the crimes that this man perpetrates against other human beings. Whether he is killing people in Waco, Texas or Iraq (you remember them last months enemy), the Sudan, Afghanistan, or in Yugoslavia, the citizens in this country share in his guilt for crimes committed. He is after all an elected official and whether one voted for him or not just being a citizen of the country which makes his miserable rule possible---establishes one as an accomplice to his sins. If you do not understand why this is so then you have been watching too much television. For it is clear to thinking people everywhere, that those who mindlessly support or assist Clinton in his message of death---share in the guilt of innocent blood being so vilely shed.
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Those who have changed the White House into a whorehouse, those who have protected both the whore mongers and the whores, are not just evil, violent, vicious criminals --- they are YOUR GOVERNMENT. Remember this: in the past before this present mad terror campaign in Yugoslavia, Arab women and children were blown to pieces in front of their husband's very eyes by cruise missiles for no other reason than an American presidential pervert's desires to take attention away from his ignominious deeds. With a cigar in one hand, and a slut in a blue dress in the other, Clinton turned our White House into his own personal whorehouse. Is it then unreasonable to expect that at some point in the future our shores will be crossed by aggrieved stricken men who's sole reason for coming is the desire to punish such injustice? When they come here to exact their revenge (for I believe they will) will you then find the moral fortitude to speak out against mad bombing in other countries? To become a real citizen who cares for his nation's future enough to oppose evil in high places? It may then be too late.

Those who cross our shores to exact vengeance will fight for the memories of families now destroyed by cruise missiles. They can not get at the president of the United States. He sits safely in his white/whore house. He has ten thousand FBI agents to protect him. So they will come for you. Or someone like you. As there is a God in Heaven it is certain justice will fall upon the heads of the people of this nation for not speaking out and opposing these evil men in Washington.

And can you really claim with a clear conscience, and in truth, that you have no part in these bombings by Clinton when you pay the taxes that build the bombs that kill the children, wives and families of people around the world? Think about it. Look at this matter through the eyes of some aggrieved person who has lost his family to your tax bought bombs. He knows you watched television, or went out to a nice restaurant, or perhaps enjoyed a sporting event, while the blood of his wife and children was running between his fingers and dripping from his hands soaking ever so slowly into far away desert sands. Though you may feel no responsibility for violent acts of your government---it is still your government and others certainly hold you responsible. While it is true an Arab avenger cannot bring the desert to you and show you the blood of his loved ones, he can bring you pain, and the terror he knows so well. And he will...

New World Order Police Use Missiles and Television

The New World Order has plans for Europe. And the leading force of one world government has been and continues to be the United States. NATO and not the UN are the world police forces which will bomb, kill, terrorize, and destroy until the whole of Europe and the rest of mankind agrees to submit. A world order led by the likes of George Bush, Bill Clinton, and of course the next degenerate pervert that buys his way into the President of the United States office with illegal foreign campaign donations, support of the eight sinister corporations that own 87% of the news media in the United States, and drug money from CIA operations in Latin America, Mena Arkansas, and elsewhere.

NATO's supreme commander, General Wesley Clark, on CNN news sinisterly stated, "Let's not forget what the origin of the problem is. There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That's a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states." So all the forked tongue talk by Clinton of bombing people to save lives is a cover for a secret one world agenda. An agenda the average person has no idea exists or what its effect upon his life will be. But soon people will find out. Today Serbia is bombed but tomorrow it will be another country. Until the whole earth is consumed in a gigantic war to the death between freedom loving people everywhere and those that Clinton and NATO represent.

This controlled news media has made it a purpose to see that American people do not know who they should be supporting and what the real issues in Yugoslavia are. Deliberately, maliciously, and with great malice the Serbs have been portrayed day and night in an evil light while those they fight are described as helpless refugees. There is a good reason for this gross deception and manipulation of the American peoples minds. Sex offender Clinton is supporting the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), a terrorist organization, according to our own state department who in 1997 placed them on a list of terrorist groups. This Islamic Albania terror army is funded by a Muslim drug cartel marketing heroin in the United States and Europe. The KLA has for several years bombed, killed and murdered innocent Serbian men, women and children in an attempt to set up an independent Muslim government in the Christian Nation of Yugoslavia. A terror campaign that is completely hidden from the television screens and newspapers of the United States.

Americans have heard nothing about KLA terror but rather only about the legitimate response President Milosevic of Yugoslavia has carried out with police and the military to stop insurrection and terror bombings conducted by the KLA. The KLA is guilty of bombing schools, restaurants, shopping centers, public buildings, assassinations, murder, rape and all the assorted types of horrid activities that a cruel war produces in men. Yes there have been human rights abuses by both sides. The Serbs are no more, nor less guilty than the KLA of such things. But this is no time for hypocrites to throw their bombs around! It should be remembered that in February of 1945 in a single night over Dresden, Germany the US Air Force fire bombed and killed 125,000 German refugees fleeing the Soviet army. Likewise, in the time that it takes for your own heart to beat twice the United States killed 214,000 human beings with the Atomic bomb. The United States killed in just two days of a four year war 339,000 people. Many more than the Serbian army and police have killed in the entire time of their struggle with the Kosovo Liberation Army. Never perhaps, in the entire history of the human race has such blatant hypocrisy risen to this level. Clinton's condemnation of the Serbs rises up like the stench of all those dead and burnt bodies to choke the very souls of honest thinking people throughout the world.


Some Background

Because of the control of the news media most people do not understand the real battle being waged inside the borders of Yugoslavia. Let me then tell you about it. 600 years ago Islamic hordes invaded Christian Europe. They destroyed everything in their path. Those who refused to convert to Mohammedism suffered horrible fates. The Serbian women were first raped and then sold along with their children into slavery. Serbian men not killed on the battle field were castrated and blinded to make them docile slaves for their Turkish masters. Whole cities became a single funeral pyre with their flames reaching toward heaven for the thousands who lived in them as they were burned by the invaders. At one point in their advance into Serbia the Turks nailed some 12,000 Serbians to crosses mocking the death of Christ and the Faith of the Serbs. The Turkish invasion of Europe seemed unstoppable as they swept over everything in their path with fire and sword. Until they reached the Kosovo Plain.

For it was there that in 1389 some 77,000 Christian knights and soldiers met the Turks. All of them pledging to each other and to Christ that they would die rather than convert to Mohammedism and lose their liberty. With prayer and fasting and the Cross of Christ before them, 77000 Christian men led by Serbian Prince Lazar engaged in a gory battle to the death. Giving their life's blood not just to save the freedom of Serbia but of all Europe from the advance of Mohammed's enslaving hordes. When the battle was over the cream of Serbian manhood lay dead in great heaps on the blood drenched field along with their Prince. But their death did not come easy for the Muslims. These martyrs for their faith fought so heroically, exacting such a tremendous toll upon the Islamic soldiers, that the advance into the heart of Europe was halted. During the battle a group of knights having heard that their Prince was dead, raced headlong through the enemy lines charging into the very center of the enemy camp where they slew in his tent the Turkish leader Emir Murad I. There they too died in desperate hand to hand combat outnumbered two hundred to one.

Thenceforth Kosovo Field became to the Serbian people Acampo santo, The Holy Field. It is considered by many historians of the Christian Church to be the single greatest tomb of Christian martyrs killed in a single day. No other single larger sacrifice of Christians is know. Rome had it's glory. But Serbia has Kosovo! Each year on St Vitus' Day the Serbs honour the holy martyrs of Kosovo Plain and commemorate that epic sacrifice to freedom and the Faith of Christ with prayer and fasting.

Such is the history of the Alamo like stand of Serbian manhood against the invading foes of Western Christian Civilization. Kosovo province is the heart and soul of Serbia and they will not yield it to today's Albanian Muslim terrorists backed by American cruise missiles and B2 bombers. The United States' aggression against the Serbs will be valiantly opposed by the descendants of those who died upon Kosovo Plain. The attempt to break it away from the Serbian nation will fail and America will reap more shame and condemnation for it's cowardly bombing of the Yugoslavian people. Like the Mexican commander Santa Anna who called for the Texans to surrender before his troops stormed the walls of the Alamo, Clinton has called for the surrender of Kosovo. He will not get it. And he will make martyrs of those he kills. Liberty and Faith still has it's defenders.


The Migration of the Serbs, Patriarch Arsenie was forced to move his people in 1690. 185,000 Serbs were forced from Kosovo
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An added reason of how Serbia is winning is the simple fact that rapid western recognition occured out of a believe that it will improve relations with Muslims. But the opposite has happenned, only 5 Muslim states have recognized, all 5 are insignificant. Many muslim media are calling the US support for independence a U.S. ploy.
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An added reason of how Serbia is winning is the simple fact that rapid western recognition occured out of a believe that it will improve relations with Muslims. But the opposite has happenned, only 5 Muslim states have recognized, all 5 are insignificant. Many muslim media are calling the US support for independence a U.S. ploy.
There have been victories for Serbia...

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Four EU countries, Romania, Cyprus, Slovakia and Spain, have refused to recognise Kosovo as an independent state.
BBC >>> Saying NO to Kosovo independence


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... and then, there have been setbacks...

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Croatia and Hungary - two of Serbia's neighbours - have officially recognised Kosovo's independence.
BBC >>> Serbia neighbours accept Kosovo

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There is a rather 19th Century feeling in the Balkans today - small countries, choosing allies carefully, in a strategic battle between the Great Powers.
BBC >>> Serbia neighbours act on Kosovo

But Serbia IS WINNING... Hail Serbia !!!

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I'd say it's more of a stalemate with Serbia at present being in slightly advantageous position.

I expect the issue of Kosovo to be resolved quickly. Serbia votes on May 11, while the illegal EU mission needs Serbia to agree to independence or to recognize it's legitimacy by May 31. Given that parliament will not approve the EU SAA (stabilization and association and agreement) at present it is clear that before that date Serbia will not legitimize this illegal act.

For Serbia to win this diplomatic bible the support for the extremely pro-EU parties must remain at the level they are now because if this occurs then after the election there will be no approval of the EU mission.

June 1 and afterwards the UN mission in Kosovo will become illegal and there will be no chance for the EU mission to receive legitimacy, then Serbia can take several steps:
- Invade Kosovo. As soon as UN mission in Kosovo is dissolved and unreplacable by the EU, the NATO KFOR mission is thus an illegal force. But given that NATO violated international law to get into Kosovo this is the least likely option.
- Become a Russian province. Some members of the SRS (the radical party) have called for this but this is not popular among Serbs and is impractical due to distance and several NATO countries being in between the two countries.
- Serbia inviting a peace keeping force consisting of Russians. This is most likely and their has been speculation among western analysts of Serbia planning this. Not only that but this is preferable as the Russians would allow Serb troops to re-enter Kosovo.
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June 1 and afterwards the UN mission in Kosovo will become illegal and there will be no chance for the EU mission to receive legitimacy, then Serbia can take several steps:
- Serbia inviting a peace keeping force consisting of Russians. This is most likely and their has been speculation among western analysts of Serbia planning this. Not only that but this is preferable as the Russians would allow Serb troops to re-enter Kosovo.
I believe the Russians have already indicated a willingness to do just that.

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Dmitry Medvedev, deputy prime minister and likely next president of Russia, traveled to Serbia for a visit that will underscore Moscow's close ties with Belgrade and Serbia's support for its rejection of Kosovo's independence.
AP >>> Russias likely next president visits Serbia


Serbian President Boris Tadic (right) welcomed Dmitry Medvedev on Monday
Medvedev is deputy prime minister and the likely next president of Russia.


Reuters >>> Kremlin ruler or Putins puppet: Who is Medvedev?


Russia's President Vladimir Putin (R) and First Deputy Prime Minister and
presidential candidate Dmitry Medvedev listen to the state anthem during a
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I think U.S. policy in Eastern Europe is largely about containing Russia. The U.S. support for Kosovo secession should be seen in the context of trying to humiliate and bully Russia, and the U.S. missiles in Poland should also be understood in this context. As should the expansion of NATO and the EU to the East. Keep Russia weak and out of Europe is one of the key strategies of U.S. domination of Eurasia, and Brzizinska outlines in his book The Grand Chessboard. But I wonder what effect a Balkan conflict could have on EU resistence forces in Western Europe, particularly England. I Know that in the 90's some Britons went to Yugoslavia to vollunteer in the struggle on various sides. Perhaps this outbreak of conflict in the Balkans could lead to a greater struggle that will threaten the stability of the EU. Hopefully.
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I just wanted to add that the leaders of the U.S. military and industrial complex are clearly trying to dominate the world as is outlined in the writings of the planers of the Iraq war, such as the members of the Project for a New American Century. This is a terrible thing for the nations of the world, as well as for the people of the United States who are unwitting to the fact that their leaders are trying to drag them into endless wars of imperial domination. Amazingly unwitting.
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I think U.S. policy in Eastern Europe is largely about containing Russia. The U.S. support for Kosovo secession should be seen in the context of trying to humiliate and bully Russia, and the U.S. missiles in Poland should also be understood in this context. As should the expansion of NATO and the EU to the East. Keep Russia weak and out of Europe is one of the key strategies of U.S. domination of Eurasia, and Brzizinska outlines in his book The Grand Chessboard. But I wonder what effect a Balkan conflict could have on EU resistence forces in Western Europe, particularly England. I Know that in the 90's some Britons went to Yugoslavia to vollunteer in the struggle on various sides. Perhaps this outbreak of conflict in the Balkans could lead to a greater struggle that will threaten the stability of the EU. Hopefully.
I don't think Kosovo independence is a war that Europeans in the west would want to fight. In 1999 there were no volunteers from Europe on the Albanian side (on the Serb side their were volunteers from Russia, Bulgaria and Greece), just mercenaries (I do not count them as volunteers since in the late 90s there were Serbs figthing for mercenary groups in Africa).

The wars in the early 90s were one in which Europeans joined for ideological reasons. Those who thought on the Croat side were all from places like England, Germany, France, Austria, Sweden, Ireland, etc.. (Western states, Catholic and Protestant), while those on the Serb side were all from places like Greece, Romania, Bulgaria & Ukraine (Eastern states, all Orthodox).
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Nine years after Nato began bombing Serbia to stop a bloody crackdown on Kosovo Albanians, Belgrade has proposed partitioning the newly independent nation along ethnic lines.

The proposal to divide Kosovo between its ethnic Albanian majority and minority Serbs was published on Monday, the anniversary of NATO's 78-day air war.
ALJAZEERA >>> Serbia wants Kosovo partitioned


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Highly Esteemed Mister Chancelor,

Last week I had the opportunity to attend a conference in Bratislava, the Capitol of Slovakia, organized by the American State Department and American Enterprise Institute (Foreign Policy Institute of the Republican Party). The main subject of the meeting was the Balkans and the process of NATO enlargement.

The conference was attended by high political officials, as indicated by the presence of numerous regional prime ministers, as well as ministers of foreign politics and defense. Among the many important topics discussed, a few deserve special emphasis:

1. The organizers of the Conference (US State Department and American Enterprise Institute) demanded a speedy recognition of Kosovo, according to international law.

2. It was explained by the organizers that the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia must be kept out of every rule - of - law organ, and especially out of the Helsinki accords.

3. European rule of law is a hindrance to NATO. The American system of law is therefore more suitable for Europe.

4. The war against Yugoslavia was fought to rectify an incorrect decision of General Eisenhower during World War II. In this manner, because of the strategic reasons demanding the stationing of US soldiers in this region, the faulty determination has been corrected,

5. The European allies took part in the war against Yugoslavia in order to, de facto, overcome the dilemma which presented itself after the acceptance of the "new strategic concept" of the Alliance in the April of 1999, and to overcome the inclination of the Europeans to secure a previous mandate of the UN or the Organization for European Security and Cooperation.

6. Europeans allies may legalistically reason that this war against Yugoslavia, which was outside the treaty's domain, was an exception. However, it is clear that this is a precedent, which they can and will call upon at any moment.

7. NATO should now fill the area between the Baltic and Anatolia, as it was filled by Roman forces during the height of the Roman Empire.

8. In addition, Poland must be surrounded from the north and the south by democratic neighbor states; Bulgaria and Romania should provide the territorial connection to Turkey; in the long run, Serbia must be kept out of European development (probably to further the safety of the American military presence).

9. North of Poland it is important to establish complete control of all access routes from St Petersburg to the Baltic Sea.

10. In each process, the right for people's self determination should be given priority before all other regulations or rules of the international law.

11. The statement that NATO's war against Yugoslavia was a violation of all relevant regulations and rules of international law did not encounter any opposition.

After this conference, where the discussion was very open and candid, we cannot avoid the long lasting importance of the conference conclusions, especially taking into account the professional rank and competence of its participants and organizers.

The American side seems to be conscious, that in order to pursue its interests, it needs to undermine the rule of law developed as a result of the two World Wars. Power must be above justice. Where international law stands in the way, it must be removed. When a similar development was embraced by the League of Nations, the Second World War was not far away. A way of thinking that puts self-interest in such an absolute position can not be called anything but totalitarian.

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The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI) is a conservative think tank, founded in 1943. It is associated with neoconservative domestic and foreign policy views. According to the institute its mission is "to defend the principles and improve the institutions of American freedom and democratic capitalism — limited government, private enterprise, individual liberty and responsibility, vigilant and effective defense and foreign policies, political accountability, and open debate." AEI is an independent, non-profit organization. It is supported primarily by grants and contributions from foundations, corporations, and individuals. It is located in Washington, D.C.

AEI has emerged as one of the leading architects of the second Bush administration's public policy. More than twenty AEI alumni and current visiting scholars and fellows have served either in a Bush administration policy post or on one of the government's many panels and commissions.[6] Former United States Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz is a visiting scholar, and Lynne Cheney, wife of Vice President Dick Cheney and former chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities, is a senior fellow.

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