How do you see your Nation, ideally ?

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Iceni

I would like to see the four nations of the British Isles independent once again, however I would like to see a free trade area and common international approach from our islands as our blood ties and economies are for ever linked.

England needs a Nationalist Government to protect and nurture the English culture, a Government that would shut our boarders to none Europeans and have the balls to repatriate several million immigrants.

I wood also like to see a greater Europe made up of a affiliation of independent European Nations, and the equivalent of a NATO for Europe.

Sadly I believe this will only come about after we Europeans have to fight for our very existence against the massing hoards at our boarders and those aliens already in our mist.

What about the British colonies and specifically those close to the Isles like the Channel Islands and Manx?

[Iceni]

The British Isles are made up of many Isles, so yes they would be part of what ever British Nation they are part of now.

As for our old colonies, I suspect they would want to keep a close affiliation after they had got used to our new Nationalist Government. It would be very hard to lose the close affiliation we have with our brethren in the new world as most families in our Isles have family in these lands.

[Crvena zvezda]

Originally Posted by Iceni

The British Isles are made up of many Isles, so yes they would be part of what ever British Nation they are part of now.

As for our old colonies, I suspect they would want to keep a close affiliation after they had got used to our new Nationalist Government. It would be very hard to lose the close affiliation we have with our brethren in the new world as most families in our Isles have family in these lands.

I specifically mentioned Isle of Man (Manx) and the Channel Islands because as far as I know they do not belong to any of four home nations.

[Anwelleiro]

Just like this:

[TiCon]

A national-Socialist pan-Germanic federation.

However, which borders , which areas it should include is certainly a debate of argue

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by Saxonian Knight

A national-Socialist pan-Germanic federation.

However, which borders , which areas it should include is certainly a debate of argue

Panonski will hate this map! Same goes for all Serbians.

EDIT: Greater Albania... one more reason to hate it.

[Menydh]

SK, that's a strange map. Care to explain?

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

SK, that's a strange map. Care to explain?

That's just the map of Nazi-occupied Europe in 1943, and their projects in European Russia. Germany annexes Alsace-Lorraine, Luxembourg, Austria, South-Tyrol, Slovenia, Poland, Czech Republic, Konigsberg area, you have Greater Croatia, Greater Hungary, Greater Albania, Greater Bulgary, Greater Finland. Romania loses Transylvania but as a compensation get Moldavia and parts of Ukraine. Lithuania, Lettonia, Estonia, Crimea, Belarus and Ukraine are Ost-Reichskommissariats, as well as various areas & Nations in the Caucasus (Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaidjan, ...). Southern parts of Italy are occupied by US army. Losing countries are France, Denmark, Serbia, Greece, of course Russia.
However, this map is a rather... unambitious summary of Saxonian Knight's geopolitical views, isn't it ? I still remember your idea of a Fourth Germanic Reich including Northern France, Belgium & The Netherlands, Northern Italy, the British Isles, Scandinavia, ... I forgot about some other areas though.

@ ProduSlav : Don't you mind being Croatian ?

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by Theobald

@ ProduSlav : Don't you mind being Croatian ?

No, I don't mind being part of Croatia. This would actually be the best. Giving some parts to Serbia (mostly Republika Srpska), and making the rest part of Croatia (but still make of it a Croatian-Bosnian federation). I would like to have a united Bosnia, yes, but this would maybe lead to an Islamic state, and this, I really would not want. So the spliting idea is probably the best, in my opinion. It is sometimes hard for me, as my family members died for a free Bosnian state, but on the other hand... this is not the real solution for the future. It will bring us just more wars and even, "Islam Bosna" . Pride or Peace? What would you chose?

[Theobald]

If you ask me I would choose pride over peace any time. I'd rather die as a free man than live as a slave.
However France and Bosnia are quite different "issues". Can descents of islamized Serbs and Croats be considered as a "Nation", and is this so-called "Nation" worth fighting and dying for ? Or should Bosnian (ex-)Muslims look for their original identity and religion in Serbia and Croatia ? That's up to you to choose. But never give up your pride and your freedom for peace and tranquillity, because one day - and sooner than you may think - your very peace will be threatened as well by those you didn't want to fight because you feared war and violence. That's called the "Munich syndrom".

[IrishThirdPosition]

A united and independent Irish Republic, and living next door to a free Scotland, a free Wales and a free England, and all four free of the grip of the banks, the EU, "Britishness" and Buckingham Palace. And let's not forget, autonomy for Cornwall.

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by Theobald

If you ask me I would choose pride over peace any time. I'd rather die as a free man than live as a slave.
However France and Bosnia are quite different "issues". Can descents of islamized Serbs and Croats be considered as a "Nation", and is this so-called "Nation" worth fighting and dying for ? Or should Bosnian (ex-)Muslims look for their original identity and religion in Serbia and Croatia ? That's up to you to choose. But never give up your pride and your freedom for peace and tranquillity, because one day - and sooner than you may think - your very peace will be threatened as well by those you didn't want to fight because you feared war and violence. That's called the "Munich syndrom".

Yes, you got a point there. But I was also saying, that sometimes it's hard for me. I can (for example) chose my path (getting back to my original identity, before the conversion), but I can't force this upon everyone of my people. And like you said, it's here a complete different situation then in France. Bosnian muslims are after all Serbs and Croats, so it would not be wrong to get back to them. Other people here maybe want a free Bosnia and Herceg. That's great (when Switzerland, why not Bosnia), IF there was not this Islam thing. So what to do? And then there is the war... Again, it's not the same like in France. Every 50 years we have a new one, and this needs to stop. To many people on all sides have died or emigrated. The best solution would be to devide Bosnia, fair between Croatia and Serbia. Bosnian muslims could then chose on wich side they would live. I also think they must have the solution to stay "Bosniaks" (regardless in wich country), if they desire. Forceing up a Croatian or Serbian identity upon them all of a sudden would just lead to new problems.
I'd also chose pride over peace (I'm PRODU after all ), but maybe others won't, and... it is childish to fight all the time. We have to find a compromise after all.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by IrishThirdPosition

A united and independent Irish Republic, and living next door to a free Scotland, a free Wales and a free England, and all four free of the grip of the banks, the EU, "Britishness" and Buckingham Palace. And let's not forget, autonomy for Cornwall.

Sounds good to me. I would want to free the British royal family as well. The modern UK press and public has a sick and abusive relationship with the Windsor family that I would not wish on anyone.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Anwelleiro

Just like this:

May I ask why you use a non Galician grammar? At least not one that Galicians accept as their own. There are a few people from N. Portugal (very few there, and next to none in Galicia) who would like to see that. Even if you live in Galicia, Spain.

[TiCon]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

SK, that's a strange map. Care to explain?

This map is not complete my vision of how I see a new Europe. However, some parts of it seems interesting, but as I said borders are to be argued. I will add later a map of how I do see my ideal nation

Because of it is necesarry to be argued, I added this map. Borders change through time. However historical and cultural claims continue to exist. Nothing is really settled.

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by Saxonian Knight

This map is not complete my vision of how I see a new Europe. However, some parts of it seems interesting, but as I said borders are to be argued. I will add later a map of how I do see my ideal nation

Because of it is necesarry to be argued, I added this map. Borders change through time. However historical and cultural claims continue to exist. Nothing is really settled.

If you are from the Netherlands why does the idea of a Greater Germany exite you?