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2. Poland with borders from 1921 + 1946 + "European Russia" with "Krolewiec".
So you want "le beurre et l'argent du beurre" (French saying that I could translate into "the butter and butter's money"...) ? Areas you gained in 1945 + areas you lost in 1945 ?
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I see Montenegro becoming a Russian colony (it's what constantly pro-EU parties say ios happenning and it makes sense Russians will invest billions in tourism and property their and most tourists who are non-Serb will be russians).

Serbia will probably follow them in becoming a colony, mainly because Serbian politicians will look for a new way to get back Montenegro. This is what the SRS supports and the DSS party seems to be neutral while the rest are excessively EU even though I'd say that majority of Serbs now or will soon hold the view "You can't trust the bastards in the EU" and the view "Why should we join the EU, when Javier Solana is a war criminal*?"

* This is the title of a book that sold well in Serbia last year. Javier Solana - War Criminal.
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Judging from the map you displayed, does it mean that you are in favour of federalization of Spain(s) and that you would like old political entities and kingdoms to be reestablished, including the Kingdom of Granada (but this time Christian and not Muslim)?
Yes, I'm all for it (not in the exact way shown in this map though), as well as the recovering the ancient laws (fueros) of every of these kingdoms, counties, etc. (or simply regions, since I'm not a monarchist). The opposite to that would be accepting the Freemasonic and anti-Spanish constitutions of the past centuries and all the administrative monsters they created, that of course including Andalusia, which desired desintegration would recover the old kingdoms/regions of Granada, Seville, Cordoba, etc.

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Not only remain, but also be promoted over any other language as long as they are indigenous. Disrespect for Spanish linguistic variety is not a native practice here, it was imported by the Bourbons and to them we debt many of our historical wounds regarding these issues. As a curiosity, in the times of the multiple kingdoms, we could make a list of the ten most pro-Hispanic kings and you would find an overwhelmy non-Castilian majority (that is, Catalan, Galician-Portuguese, Leonese, Asturian, [Basque]Navarrese...).
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I see Montenegro becoming a Russian colony
Oh, please, don't make us imperialists
Russian Confederation in future will not be interested in transforming Montenegro and/or Serbia (or any other country) into colonies. Montenegro and Serbia will be just good partners for us (I hope).

P.S. If You want Montenegro and Serbia to become Russian colonies - ask Putin! He will agree
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I don't think it's a good idea. Why on earth Serbia will become a Russian colony?
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I am in favour of a strong national-democratic and authoritaire governed state. I distrust the idea of an entirely state controlled economy, in my opinion business should be enabled freely, only vital companies dealing with resources like water or energy should be controlled by authorities. Neither foreign companies may be controlled by Germans, nor may German corporations be controlled by foreigners. No free trade of stocks.
Domestic policy must pursue the benefit and welfare of German people, foreigners of non-European origins (exceptions for colonials) are to be repatriated to the countries they came from. This includes mixed couples and their offsprings. Strict restrictions for immi- and emigration. Those coming here must adopt to culture and customs. Germans coming from overseas are allowed to settle here, for those e.g. coming from America special language and integration courses are obligatory. I am in favour of a strict law and order policy to crack down crime. Crimes like murder, manslaughter and rape will be punished with the death penalty, furthermore drug and sex-slave trafficking als can be punished with capital punishment. Islam and Judaism will be outlawed like the practicing of all other satanist sects, Christianity is to be restricted. Freemasonry will be outlawed for once and all times, same goes for liberalism, socialism and communism and other anti-patriotic movements. Noone in favour of one ore more of these ideologies may leave Germany, they are to be sent into a work camp.There they learn to live a regular life, discipline, industriousness, order and cleanliness are taught. After work they are taught how to shower, brush teethe and the use of monthly hygienic items. This is the way to make responsible citizens out of sloppy liberals.
Education is crucial, that's why schools and universities must teach toppics that are beneficial to a healthy society. Anti patriotic re-education must be a subject in order to prevent this pestilence to come back, in a healthy society the benefits stand plain to see, so noone must fear to mention how e.g. liberalism works and what it did to European societies. Those wanting to found a family will be granted any support they need to maintain a healthy family.
There are several regions within Germany, any region pursues the specific regional heritage along with the standard German culture, this means eg. the Swabian/Alamanni language/dialect and culture is taught in Swabia, Saxon language and culture in Saxony etc.pp. Ideally all Germans live in Germany, his means Austria is free to join a free and sovereign German state, same goes for Swiss-Germany, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and Low Germany, if they do not want to join fully a federation would be favourable. Furthermore strong links are to be established with Germans living in foreign lands like Alsatians and Lorrainers. A crack up of France is unlikely, but at least these regions should be autonomous. Should Belarus and Ukraine agree to hand over former Polish territories back, by granting economic benfits for example, I am sure former German territories under Polish occupation will be handed over to Germany.
Foreign policy includes a pan-Germanic agenda as well as an active participation in an Europe of sovereign fatherlands. This cooperation is needed to fight $ imperialism and other foreign threats.
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Judging from the map you displayed, does it mean that you are in favour of federalization of Spain(s) and that you would like old political entities and kingdoms to be reestablished, including the Kingdom of Granada (but this time Christian and not Muslim)?

And what about linguistic diversities? Should they remain?
Prometheus, would Slovenes and Croatians agree on returning to a Yugoslavian Federation? Well, add to that comparison, the fact that cultural differences between Portugal and Spain are not that shallow and, for an instance, the languages are not that mutually inteligible.

The reality is that my father doesn't understand almost a word of Spanish (Castillian one should say), nor my mother, nor my brother, nor most of my friends, nor the great majority of our population except those living near the borders. Written is easier, alright. Same thing goes for Spain: When I travel through Spain, no one understands me, even if I speak slowly.

Even if we are practically of the same ethnic composition, do you think people will throw away 879 years of sovereignity?

With exception for those 60 years of shared Monarchy (1580 - 1640) which we did not particularly enjoyed, we are the oldest European fully independent nation state, and that didn't happen by random or historical mistake. And we were pushed onto further 28 years of war, because Spain wouldn't leave us on our own.

But we won our cause, and we thank God we don't have identitarian problems. The truth is Spain didn't solve its national issues, and we did, long ago.

This side of the border, we want Status Quo.
Ideally? free from Brussels, free of communists, free of burgeoisie, free of jewish families, free of Masons. Portugal is one of the most powerful strongholds of masonry, occultist jewish masonry. Makes me truly sad.
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No, why should I.
Karl Marx's birthday is on May 5th, are you doing anything special A Few Acres of Snow?
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13th of July is my birthday, are you guys doing anything special?
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Karl Marx's birthday is on May 5th, are you doing anything special A Few Acres of Snow?
Relax. I think I've said one positive and forty negative things about Marxism so I won't be having cake on his birthday.

I know it is literally a crime in Germany to say anything positive about Hitler but you would have to admit that your goals for Germany quite closely match the National Socialist agenda.
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I think I've said one positive and forty negative things about Marxism so I won't be having cake on his birthday.
I think I have said one positive and forty negative things about Hitlerism so I won't be having cake on his birthday.
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I know it is literally a crime in Germany to say anything positive about Hitler but you would have to admit that your goals for Germany quite closely match the National Socialist agenda.
It is a crime in FRG to say anything postive about Hitler despite he did positive things.
Any sort of nationalism is outlawed BTW, not only NS.
There are some NS agendas, not only one, but I am sure my positions differ strongly from any. NS more or less propagates a German hegemony over Europe. I oppose this, I am in favour of an isolationist policy - I strictly oppose all aggressions towards neighbouring countries. Furthermore NS see the main problem in US-British-Jewish ZOG imperialism - my opinion is German imperialism did surely not cause the lost of less lives of innocent people. I also have no special anti-Slavic agenda, I am simply not interested in any unnecessary trouble with them. Most NS mix up Prussian imperialism with German nationalism, I am not too interested in territories that never were fully German, like East Prussia. We have a Slavic minority here, the Sorbs, I do not see it as problem when they have their own language - bilingual schools- and heritage. Germany is not all Germanic and therefor has no right to claim leadership over other Germanic states, and I find it funny to see NS guys with Slavic familynames, and we have plenty of them, telling me lectures about how evil the Poles are. When going through my text I must say it is quite moderate and has nothing to do with wild, aggressive and expansive conquest-phantasies you can read in several NS fora.
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Yes and so many of the harshest critics of NS Germany are proud to have never read any original documents from the era or seriously compared its system to others. It is clear to me that Germany got many things right during that period.
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Prometheus, would Slovenes and Croatians agree on returning to a Yugoslavian Federation? Well, add to that comparison, the fact that cultural differences between Portugal and Spain are not that shallow and, for an instance, the languages are not that mutually inteligible.
What is this 'Spanish culture' you speak of? I would suggest that there is no 'one' Spanish culture, but there are intra-national cultural and linguistic differences throughout Spain on a regional basis, meaning it wouldn't be very difficult for Portugal to fit in as well.

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Having lived in Canada, I can attest to the fact that there a great many Ontarians who don't speak a word of Canadian French and I have little doubts that there are a number of Quebecois who don't speak a word of English. A language barrier seems to be a rather poor excuse to oppose a reunion with the rest of Spain, and it is certainly possible to work around such an obstacle.

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Yes, that's the main argument I have encountered when discussing the notion of a reunion with Spain with my closest of friends - overzealous, perhaps even false patriotism coupled with a complete and utter lack of understanding of the term 'Spain'.

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Actually, I would suggest that the 'identitarian problems' of Spain very much includes Portugal.
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