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On 29 June 1801 a confidential Royal Order was issued with the aim of investigating the use by Spanish vessels of a flag whose drawing was attached, with the text Bandera de Alianza España Francia (Flag of Alliance Spain France). It was clearly a combination of the Spanish and French colors in the form of the rays of a central sun with human face, accompanied on the left by the simplified Spanish coat-of-arms as appearing in the ensign approved in 1785 and on the right by a text put in circle that reads Venganza de los mares (Vengeance of the seas).

Though the investigation got no results, it seems that this flag was a work of French propaganda. In 1801 Spain and France were allied against England, but the Spanish were reluctant to colaborate with a regime issued from a revolution that had killed a Bourbon king, so it is easy to understand that the French wanted to encourage their allies. The text Venganza de los mares no doubt makes reference to the will of revenge of the Spanish navy against the defeats inflicted by the British during the two previous centuries.
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Though the investigation got no results, it seems that this flag was a work of French propaganda.
The flag looks gay.

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In 1801 Spain and France were allied against England, but the Spanish were reluctant to colaborate with a regime issued from a revolution that had killed a Bourbon king
Uh.. surely killing a Borbon was not what was wrong about the French Revolution.
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You are gay too.
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Qué bonito! You're right, an alliance with Spanish was gay.
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Los franceses son gays.
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It's a fact that the french are gay:
Croissant, Pot Pourri, Parfum, even the damned language is gay!
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an alliance with Spanish was gay.
We suspected that much. Which is why..
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[...] the Spanish were reluctant


In fact the reluctance had nothing to do with the beheading of any Borbon.
Quod erat demonstrandum
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I don't know but the flag seems like it has some kind of masonic touch....
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Los franceses son gays.
Good to see you take upon your gay part, you half French. Nothing more pathetic than seeing people who deny their own origins...


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It's a fact that the french are gay:
Croissant, Pot Pourri, Parfum, ...
Anyway, what a banging comments man could understand to l'élégance, le raffinement et le bon goût français?

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even the damned language is gay!
A gay language spoke in all European Royal Courts for centuries. You're just jealous because it sounds better to the ears than the Portuguese language.


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We suspected that much. Which is why..
... you send the "utter masculine" Pedro Almodovar (el mariconito) in Cannes to represent the Spanish nation. This was an act of courage, really... or was it sheer thoughtlessness?

But perhaps you would have prefered to ally with the English?

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In fact the reluctance had nothing to do with the beheading of any Borbon.
This Borbon was a real loser, a weak man. Not a great loss if you ask me.

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In 1801 Spain and France were allied against England
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I don't know but the flag seems like it has some kind of masonic touch....
Ha, at least someone who wants to have a highbrow discussion!
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Good to see you take upon your gay part, you half French. Nothing more pathetic than seeing people who deny their own origins...
I doubt on origin of my father, he doesn't look Lorrain and his name is not very common in Lorraine.

Anyway, I joke, the flag of my city is worse :

An Oriant / Lorient




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An Oriant / Lorient



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Anyway, I joke, the flag of my city is worse :

An Oriant / Lorient




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Is it possible this flag was inspired by absinthe?
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Looks like both flags were drawn by kids. And this little sun behind the mountains...
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Good to see you take upon your gay part, you half French. Nothing more pathetic than seeing people who deny their own origins...
If you are trying to convince us that there is a gay part in all of us, give up because that trick to justify gays is too old and baseless.

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Anyway, what a banging comments man could understand to l'élégance, le raffinement et le bon goût français?
That sounds very gay.

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