Rh-negative people

[Vitor]

My kind of people!
I am RH-negative (Am I the only one here?)

http://www.highspeedplus.com/~edonon/rh.htm

FIRST AND GREATEST IMPACT: The invention of the exclusive tribe.
SECOND IMPACT: Mate once for life
THE THIRD IMPACT: Emphasis on the first born.
FOURTH IMPACT: Emphasis on female virginity.
FIFTH IMPACT: The woman is always to blame.
SIXTH IMPACT: Rh-pos. tribes become hierarchical and stratified,
Rh-neg. tribes remain matrilineal and democratic.

Are there some special characteristics associated with being Rh-negative? Throughout the ages it has always been recognized that the Berbers from Morocco and the Basques from Euskadi are the most knowledgeable and most daring navigators of the Atlantic ocean.

Spain is known for its heavy steel industry, which is almost totally located in the Basque country and, of course, is associated with the Rh-negative Basques.

Ireland is mostly agricultural, but the northeast, the province of Ulster, has heavy industry and also has the highest frequency of Rh-negative people on the island.

The Scottish people have more people with Rh-negative blood than any other group. The heavy steel industry in Glasgow was built by them. Many of the largest steamers in the world were built on their wharves, including the Titanic.

The people of the Hansa City of Bergen in Norway have the highest concentration of Rh-negative blood in that country and have long been known for their ship building industry and navigation of the north Atlantic. For many centuries its ships have dominated the Greenland trade.

It has been suggested that the builders of the great pre-Christian monuments, such as Stonehenge, had Rh-negative blood. Is it possible that Rh-negative people are more technically inclined and more inventive than Rh-positive people? Let us explore this possibility.

WHO WERE THESE PIONEERS OF THE ATLANTIC?

So where did they come from, those shadowy builders doing wondrous things with huge stones? Surprisingly there appears to be an answer to that question. The Rh-negative people who populated all the islands of western Europe, from the Canary islands to the Lofoten in the Arctic, all were sailors, fishermen, ocean explorers. They all had the same dark hair and long skulls of the Berbers and Basques. All boats needed leather sails which had up to that time been supplied by the reindeer camps on the grand plateau in southern France until the glaciers retreated too far into the Alps around 10,000 B.C. and a new supply of deer had to be found. Actually it had been found already in the most out-of-the-way place existing: in arctic Finnmark, in extreme northern Norway. The reindeer hunters then collected their tools of the trade and moved from the peri-glacial environment of southern France to the frozen Arctic. The harvesting of reindeer from the huge Arctic herd was soon under way. At Mount Komsa they established their religious center, carving their typical symbols, boats and implements on the rocks, just like they had done in Morocco, Euskadi, Ireland, and a little later would also do at the southern tip of Sweden.

The height of glaciation was reached about 16,000 BC. Deglaciation started in earnest by ca. 11,000 BC . The rising waters did not flood the English channel and the North Sea until 9 – 8,000 B.C, but by that time the explorers had already established their permanent commercial route along the west coast of Ireland. They built their mid-point supply, repair and rest station in the Orkneys. An added attraction on the way was the huge oak forest of Conamara, its bark urgently needed to do the tanning of the skins being sent south from Finnmark. Only oak-tanned deer skin could stand sea water and Atlantic storms and the industrialists among them had found the perfect location to establish their tanning and ship building center in Killary Harbour, complete with the first large town in Ireland, called Foher today, probably the original name.

The people we are looking for stayed in about the same place for the last 10,000 years and are still there. The ocean was a reliable supplier of food and the ships trading the finished hides in the Mediterranean brought back anything that could not be found or manufactured in the north. Life on the islands must have been worth living. It was not surprising that in that huge time span they built up an ever growing population which at first occupied all of Ireland and then spilled over into England. The many islands along the route to Finnmark were also slowly populated by these tough and resourceful sea peoples, and they also are still there. Much later the Vikings or Aesir came from the Baltic region and occupied the mainland of Norway. They called these dark-featured peoples of the islands the Vanir. They were puzzled why the sea peoples were so happy on their rocky islands and did not want to have anything to do with the handsome blond, Rh-positive Norsemen who had arrived thousands of years after the Vanir, and occupied the Norwegian mainland. Mythology has provided us with several legends about the aggressive Aesir attacking the Vanir whose only desire was to keep the strangers away. Where did the Vanir come from? They were part of an ocean migration, the only known ocean migration of Rh-negative people. Their blood is still so very evident from Morocco to the Norwegian islands. Their blood tells the story that they were originally Berbers who first hunted in the Basque country and then moved north along the western European islands as far as Finnmark some 10,000 years ago.

I like this sentence the most!

They were puzzled why the sea peoples were so happy on their rocky islands and did not want to have anything to do with the handsome blond, Rh-positive Norsemen who had arrived thousands of years after the Vanir, and occupied the Norwegian mainland.

The impression obtained from the questionnaire is of a people tough minded, practical, aggressive, rebellious and cheerful. The megalith builders likely were the same, but more so, their innate nature having been diluted and softened by mixing with others. In addition to the above, the Rh-negative people seemed to be just a bit taller and leaner than their classmates. Dr. Herbert’s test was a shot in the dark and it hit the target, not dead center, but close enough to be convincing. (See his website: www.wildsurmise.com).

WHAT’S SO SPECIAL ABOUT THE PICTS?

The Romans came and conquered Britain until in the far north they were stopped abruptly by well organized tribes they called the Picts. So in 117 A.D. the Romans built Hadrian’s wall to stop those awful heathens from sneaking north and taking precious Roman lives. The Picts still carried on the language and traditions of the ancient British people but their megalithic structures were not at the same scale as those in the south. Their society was highly structured and disciplined and was made up of two cooperating kingdoms, the southern and northern Picts, separated by the barrier of the Mounth. The north included the Orkney islands, the islands first settled to serve as a mid-point supply center for the trade between Morocco and Finnmark. The Picts must be the direct descendants of the first Rh-negative settlers to arrive 10,000 years ago.

Here is a map with RH negative distribution in europe, the legend is inverted, the highest value is in the basque country!



Read the other stuff in there and please comment...

[Arawn]

The Romans came and conquered Britain until in the far north they were stopped abruptly by well organized tribes they called the Picts. So in 117 A.D. the Romans built Hadrian’s wall to stop those awful heathens from sneaking north and taking precious Roman lives.

Que?
I think he means south, not north, and contrary to popular belief, Hadrian's wall wasn't so much to keep the Picts out, but rather, it split Pictish territory in two, the southern Zone which the Romans wanted, and rest (Caledonia) which the Romans had decided was more trouble that it was worth (they initialy built a wooden wall further north). The wall had the effect of pacifying the area, as wel as giving control of trade.

And yes, i am once agian guilty of skipping to the bottom and expecting a dramatic conclusion

Edited stupid spelling mistake.

[Vitor]

The Romans came and conquered Britain until in the far north they were stopped abruptly by well organized tribes they called the Picts

Obviously ...
So the contradiction

the Romans built Hadrian’s wall to stop those awful heathens from sneaking north and taking precious Roman lives.

It was an innocent mistake.


Why they built it I really don't know!
Maybe that argument is flawed like some others....
I want more comments!

Who is RH negative out there?
Am I the only one?
ham?

Maybe I am!
That rocks!

They all had the same dark hair and long skulls

Just like me me!

[Ryo]

I'm Rh-negative too

[Milesian]

I'm O-, so yes

[Vitor]

yes!
The ancient European people!

Iberia 2-Ireland 1


Take notice that this is a recessive gene, there are more people with this gene than what you think, I guess In western europe 40-50% of the people carry this gene, very coincident with R1b!

Though only 15% will be pure, and so negative.
We aren't celtic either!

I will change my race to Primordial European!

[Graeme]

In Australia the number of Rh neg is 15%. According to the Hardy Weinberg Equation the number of heterozygotes would be 48%. I am Rh pos, but I know I am heterozygous.

[Faísca]

Originally Posted by Milesian

I'm O-, so yes

Good, if I ever need, I'll call you, as I can only receive blood types A- and O-.

(Perhaps not, I doubt your blood is actually blood, but some mixture between alcohol and blood. )

[Vitor]

I am O- and I am closer to you


So you are A- Johannes...
Iberia 3-1 Ireland

Graeme doesn't count he is positive

[Arawn]

Ireland is mostly agricultural, but the northeast, the province of Ulster, has heavy industry and also has the highest frequency of Rh-negative people on the island.

Belfast's heavy Industry came into its own during the early 1900s, when steel ships began to become the norm, new infrustructure to build them was needed, and Belfast's location offer a good place to build ships (large and deep, somewhat sheltered), Being far away from Germany helped during WWII as well.

The Scottish people have more people with Rh-negative blood than any other group. The heavy steel industry in Glasgow was built by them. Many of the largest steamers in the world were built on their wharves, including the Titanic.

Again, with Glasgow, we have an established port that caplitalised on its location in the later half of the 1800s, on the western coast of the British Isles, an important regional port, that was within close reach of native coal and iron and limestone resources (for iron and steel industrise, and ship building). As the city expanded, and larger ships became the norm, the main port and shipbuilding facilities weree able to migrate further west where there was sheltered deep water areas, perfect.

When Lumber was the dominant requirement for shipbuilding, London was the centre of the shipbuilding industry, simply by being the largest city and chief port, and thus have a huge concentration of talent plus the resources near by. With the shift towards Iron and later steel, London was at a disadvantage as coal and iron had to be shipped in from other parts of the country, so it is hardly suprising that much of Britian's shipbuilding Industry moved to where it could be close to the required resources, areas like Glasgow, Tynside and Belfast, and to a lesser extend Bristol, Cardiff and Humberside, as well as the smaller yards in many other port citiesk, which incedently, were either at the centre of, or near localised iron and steel industries.

So in both cases its more a combination of physical geography, and socio-economics. The Rh connection is really the weakest link in the chain, afterall, if it is so all determining, then why were both Glasgow and Belfast comparitivly insignificant untill the Industrial revolution?

The Titanic was built in Belfast, not Glasgow btw. Belfast's shipyards can accomodate the biggest ships in the British Isles, one of the reasons the area became so prominant in shipbuilding, from the Titanic, to the soon-to-be-ordered new carriers for the RN.

[Vitor]

That article might be flawed but it's a good read!

[Arawn]

True, i guess what i'm getting at is correlation does not equal causation.
I'm sure you'd find that people of Tyneside, Belfast and Glasgow overwelming prefered to drink beer over wine, but this would hardly be considered to be a factor contributing to the development of modern ship building industries there.

[Vitor]

I corrected that map!
It had some major mistakes

[Vojvoda]

I'm O-

[Vitor]

Iberia 3
Ireland 1
Serbia 1