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[Exeter]

EuropeanDNA 2.0

This service will predict your European heritage among the following groups:

• Southeastern Europe (SEE)
• Iberian (IB)
• Basque (BAS)
• Continental European (CE)
• Northeastern European (NEE)

DNAPrint® Genomics powerful new EuropeanDNA2.0 product, further elucidates European sub-ancestry using 1,349 European Ancestry Informative Markers (SNP AIMs). This test reports a customer's proportional basic continental European ancestry: Southeastern Europe (SEE - Armenian, Jewish, Italian and Greek), Iberian (IB -Spanish, Portuguese), Basque (BAS - Spanish/French Pyrenees border), Continental European (CE - German, Irish, English, Netherlands, French, Swiss and some Italian) and North Eastern European (NEE - Polish, Baltic, Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Russian) ancestry. The EuropeanDNA 2.0 test is by far the most advanced genetic ancestry test yet to be offered to the public. It is based on recently published scientific work using DNA chips to compare populations from around the world. The reference for this test is: Bauchet M, McEvoy B, Pearson L, Quillen E, Sarkisian T, Hovhannesyan K, Deka R, Bradley D, Shriver M. 2007. Measuring European population stratification with microarray genotype data. American Journal of Human Genetics 80(5): 948-956.


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It's interesting Poles, Russians, Balts, Finns, are clustered with Swedes and Norwegians.

[PeterThaGreat]

Originally Posted by Exeter

It's interesting Poles, Russians, Balts, Finns, are clustered with Swedes and Norwegians.

Extremely interesting. Have to look up for prices!

Remember that the northern cluster is actually pretty big!

[Visigodo]

The site is interesting and I was talking about this organisation with Mynnydd last time we were having some vermouth and chating. We did not have much confidence about them.

For example. How can be possible such NOR(Northern)% of genetic markers among Spaniards? Almost half or our genetic background is Northern?

Doesn't make sense.

Table 4GROUP

Iberian NOR 48 MED 29.5 MIDEAS 7 SA 15.5

[Kalevi]

Originally Posted by Visigodo

How can be possible such NOR(Northern)% of genetic markers among Spaniards? Almost half or our genetic background is Northern?

Easily, if the component - a group of genes - they have named "Northern" is actually a general European component that is just more pronounced in northern areas.

From the chart you posted it seems that their "Med" is more an eastern Mediterranean thing.

[Exeter]

Yes, the Med is more eastern. The high NOR in Spaniards may to do with a greater Palaeolithic contribution which is also evident in the distribution of Y chromosomes in Spain.

I think that chart is from the test EurasianDNA 1.0. They did write Southeastern European (Mediterranean). The new test has a separate Iberian.

"Since EuroDNA 2.0 assumes a continental population model, it is useful only for individuals who are primarily continental European."
The Euro-DNA 2.0 DNA Test – European Ancestry DNA Testing - Genealogy and Family History

Originally Posted by Kalevi

From the chart you posted it seems that their "Med" is more an eastern Mediterranean thing.

[Susi]

They seem to completely ignore parts of Northwest Europe altogther. The British Isles, anyone? ,-,

[Exeter]

Irish and English are in the continental group.

Originally Posted by Susi

They seem to completely ignore parts of Northwest Europe altogther. The British Isles, anyone? ,-,

[Menydh]

Messy. I'd try one from here instead:

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[Lagun]

It seems that we the Basque have been classified as something different to other iberians and even to continental europeans.
EXETER, Could you explain why?

[Visigodo]

Originally Posted by Kalevi

Easily, if the component - a group of genes - they have named "Northern" is actually a general European component that is just more pronounced in northern areas.

The problem is that we don't know wich SNPs they took as "Northern" and wich are not?

From the chart you posted it seems that their "Med" is more an eastern Mediterranean thing.

It seems like that at the first test they made but at the EuropeanDNA 2.0 they say that have found Western-Eastern axis differences and that seems contradictory.

Just as a thought to consider is what PeterThatGreat has said and is that the northern cluster is actually quite big and I am sure that if this people have been able to found differences among Spaniards and Basques they can found differences among what they call Continental European (Germans, English, French, Irish and Polish) and among the Northeastern European group (Polish, Baltic and Finnish) as they say first and later they include even Norway, Sweden, Russia, and/or possibly other Baltic countries. In that case part of Poland, Russia, Norway, Sweden, Finland and all the Baltic states have the same genetic background or similar genetic structure? Still doesn't make sense this company to me. If in the future they are able to make a EuropeanDNA 3.0 where we can find differences among such a big cluster I will start thinking more seriously about them.

[Visigodo]

Originally Posted by Exeter

The high NOR in Spaniards may to do with a greater Palaeolithic contribution which is also evident in the distribution of Y chromosomes in Spain.

I am not sure about that.

If NOR has relation with Paleolithic Y-Chromosome DNA haplogroups and even with Paleolithic mtDNA then among Spaniards such NOR % must be even higher. As I said before it would be interesting to know wich genetic markers they took as NOR because it still not clear to me. "Paleolithic" genetics markers can be found in high % in many geographic areas of Europe.

[Exeter]

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[Galaico]

This sub-genetic division of Europe couldn't have been made worse.

[Exeter]

How come if that is what they have found except the Ashkenazi which may seem peculiar but more so when one doesn't know their history.

Originally Posted by Galaico

This sub-genetic division of Europe couldn't have been made worse.

[Menydh]

I had a look at the website. What do you make of it? DNA testing on the cheap?

Their maps look like made based on proto-historical and early and later historical assumptions. One such assumption, though it looks correct to me, is no surprise because the man behind it is Greek or American of Green ancestry. I mean the division of Italy and the joining of Southern Italy into a "Greekoid" group.

[Carnyx]

Germanic: The Germanic region includes the Germanic speaking lands of Central Europe and Scandinavia. Named Germania by the Romans, these centrally located territories are home to the influential Teutonic peoples who often came in contact with nearby regions and were instrumental in spreading Roman civilization throughout medieval Northern Europe.

No mention of the Celts in this area? Hallstatt, La Tène...