Another English betrayal : Mers-el-Kebir

[svin]

Admiral Gensoul refused to accept any of these options, in accordance with orders from Admiral François Darlan , commander of the Vichy French Navy,

Hmm... Vichy France in Jule 3 1940? Wasn't it officially proclaimed a bit later?

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by svin

Hmm... Vichy France in July 3 1940? Wasn't it officially proclaimed a bit later?

Indeed, seven days later. But Petain replaced the former Prime Minister on 16 June (and France capitulated on 22 June). So between June 16 and July 10... it was still the Third Republic and not yet the Vichy State, but Petain was already the leader.

@ Salaun : Thanks for the article. That's just... disgusting. Not surprising from Algerians though.

[Marcus Marulus]

School children in the shitty European school system are not usually taught about such things, about massacres like this one. Because it does not fit with the ruling ideology...

The more I think about that, the more I am convinced that it would be somehow good to home-school our children (at leat until the real nationalist governments are established), in order for them to learn true history and not Anglo-Masonic lies. But it is easy to say... The question is how?

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by prometheus

School children in the shitty European school system are not usually taught about such things, about massacres like this one. Because it does not fit with the ruling ideology...

The more I think about that, the more I am convinced that it would be somehow good to home-school our children (at leat until the real nationalist governments are established), in order for them to learn true history and not Anglo-Masonic lies. But it is easy to say... The question is how?

You could also have evening or weekend classes which you could share with other parents.

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by prometheus

The more I think about that, the more I am convinced that it would be somehow good to home-school our children (at leat until the real nationalist governments are established), in order for them to learn true history and not Anglo-Masonic lies.

Rather to create our own private schools.

[OneEnglishNorman]

Interesting. But no real betrayal. Does one thief "betray" another thief when he co-operates with the police?

Why did two European countries have their military toys parked outside of Africa? There lies the problem. "France" was equally guilty. But the British fired first.

Quite a fitting bookmark near the end of the story of these two rotten states. Britain & France, which swallow up neighbours (Wales, Ireland, Corsica, Brittany) act aggressively overseas then finally bring the trash of the third world back home.

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by OneEnglishNorman

But the British fired first.

How would have France fired first when she was not at war against England? There lies the problem.

Killing sailors whose country had been your ally and had just signed an armistice with the Germans, that's backstabbing.

[OneEnglishNorman]

Originally Posted by Carnyx

How would have France fired first when she was not at war against England? There lies the problem.

Killing sailors whose country had been your ally and had just signed an armistice with the Germans, that's backstabbing.

It's not really backstabbing. These are the kinds of games that are played by imperialists. I only feel bad for the innocent French sailors killed not for any sense of betrayal one side may feel or any loss of pride one side may feel.

In any case, France is the mirror image of Britain. Both with internationalist elites, both elites brought back foreigners to European lands, both got involved overseas in business not of their own. Let's have a sub-forum for the influence of the "French way" because no Anglo made a French soldier have breakfast in Moscow.

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by OneEnglishNorman

It's not really backstabbing. These are the kinds of games that are played by imperialists.

It's relativism from your part. I still can't remember France acting the same way vis à vis British Empire or any other of her allies in similar circumstances.

I only feel bad for the innocent French sailors killed not for any sense of betrayal one side may feel or any loss of pride one side may feel.

Unlike cynism, honour and pride are much rare and noble values.

In any case, France is the mirror image of Britain. Both with internationalist elites, both elites brought back foreigners to European lands, both got involved overseas in business not of their own.

True. What foreigners have to do with English bretrayal at M-E-K, anyway?

We got involved in Algeria for good reasons but that's quite off-topic.

Let's have a sub-forum for the influence of the "French way" because no Anglo made a French soldier have breakfast in Moscow.

Oh the memories. Well, I understand what you are saying and doing: deviating the topic.

[Leland Gaunt]

OEN, aren't you partly French yourself?