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Or it is some silly insinuation on the part of the Brussels Journal?

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The First Muslim-Born Leader of the West

From the desk of Thomas Landen on Wed, 2008-02-13

If I had been asked two months ago “Which Western country runs the greatest risk of electing a Muslim-born leader and how soon do you think this is going to happen?” I would have bet on the Netherlands somewhere in the next decade. Today, it looks as if the first Western country with a Muslim-born leader might very well be the United States next year, when President Barack Hussein Obama enters the Oval Office.

The Europeans do not mind being surpassed. Obamania has struck Western Europe. Two weeks ago, in an attempt to explain Europe’s enthusiasm for Mr. Obama, the left wing German weekly Der Spiegel pointed out that the Illinois senator is the most “European” of all the candidates in the U.S. presidential race. “Many in Europe would like nothing more than a ‘European’ America […] Obama personifies Europe’s hopes for a modern America: black, socially minded and gentle,” the German magazine wrote. As if Europe is black, socially minded and gentle…

Last week, Algemeen Dagblad, a newspaper in the Netherlands, asked the 150 members of the Dutch House of Representatives how they would vote in the U.S. elections if they could. Mr. Obama got 58 votes, Mrs. Clinton 40, while a mere 23 Dutch parliamentarians – fewer than those who said they had no opinion – would vote Republican.

There is little doubt that if Europe were to decide the American elections the next POTUS would be Barack Hussein Obama. In November we will know whether letting Americans decide their own future makes any difference. The Europeans hope it does not.

Europe is preparing itself for a Muslim take-over. Last year, an influential French Catholic archbishop told the American Catholic scholar Richard John Neuhaus that in the not-so-distant future Europe will be an Islamic continent. “We are preparing ourselves for soft Islamization,” the French archbishop said. Last week, the archbishop of Canterbury, the head of the Church of England, advocated the adoption of certain aspects of Islamic Sharia law in the British legal system. His remarks caused indignation from people who do not seem to realize that several Sharia courts already sit across England, Scotland and other Western countries.

Perhaps Mr. Obama strikes the Europeans as the “most European candidate” because he was born a Muslim. If America can have a Muslim-born leader, why not Europe, many Europeans will ask. They know that the latter is “unavoidable” (to use the archbishop of Canterbury’s words). In America, Mr. Obama’s Muslim family background (unlike Mr. Romney’s Mormonism) is a non-issue because he attends a Christian church. Nevertheless, being born from a Muslim father, raised by a Muslim stepfather, having been enrolled at school (in Indonesia) as a Muslim and having attended Friday prayers at the local mosque as a young boy, he cannot be seen by Muslims as anything but a Muslim, especially because he has never explicitly rejected the faith of his fathers nor said anything negative about it.

The day Barack Hussein Obama comes to the White House many Muslims, also in Europe, will see it as a vindication of recent announcements by radical Islamists that the green flag of Allah will soon fly over the White House, Buckingham Palace, the Vatican and the other “fortresses of the West.”

Since perception is often more powerful than reality the importance of an Obama presidency cannot be underestimated. The American political establishment, including the Republicans, are very naive about the Islamic threat to Europe. Rather than working against the Islamization of Europe American policies tend to hasten the process. America is an ally of Saudi Arabia – a dictatorship which funds the most extremist Islamic organizations. America pushes for the independence of Kosovo, which will establish an Islamist regime in the heart of Europe. America wants the European Union to accept Turkey as a member state. If Mr. Obama proceeds with these policies (as he is likely to do) and withdraws from Iraq, thereby indicating that America has lost the war, the radical Islamists in Europe will become even more arrogant than they are today.

Obviously, America is not to blame for Europe’s present predicament. The demographic and religious vacuum in Europe, which is being filled by Muslim immigrants and by Islam, is entirely of Europe’s own making. The Europeans – and they alone, not the Americans and not even the Muslims, who were welcomed to Europe – are to blame for the Islamization of the old continent. The irony, however, is that America does not seem to draw lessons from Europe’s predicament.

The specter of Islam is haunting the world. The Europeans, who lack America’s fighting spirit, are trying to appease their enemy and are hoping for “soft Islamization.” America, sadly, does not even seem to have noticed that there is a problem. It called Mr. Romney to account for his Mormonism but has yet to ask Mr. Obama for his views on Islam.
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His father was a muslim, according to wikipedia.

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He describes his Kenyan father as "raised a Muslim," but a "confirmed atheist" by the time his parents met, and his Indonesian stepfather as "a man who saw religion as not particularly useful."

So, Brussels Journal is right.

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He joined Trinity in 1988. A megachurch with 10,000 members, Trinity United Church of Christ is the largest congregation in the United Church of Christ.

Notice, how he is called African-American by everyone, while technically he is 1/2 African, 1/2 "White".

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Default Re: Is Barack Obama a Muslim?

Even if he is not a religious muslim he may be one culturally. He spent part of his childhood in Indonesia were he attended a Muslim school & lived in a Muslim household. It would be natural for him to be influenced by Islam & for that to influence his policy decisions. He is a Christian by virtue of his marriage to member of a Afo-Centrist Church.

Frankly I hope Obama is the next US president. It will help some realise in my country that America is a bastard country. Maybe then we can permanently severve our special relationship with that terrorist state.

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Here's an article on Barack Obama's mother and early life:

Obama\'s mom: Not just a girl from Kansas -- chicagotribune.com


Some photos from Obama's life:
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He is American, not Muslim.
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I agree. Apparently he publically sponsored a particularily savage late term abortion bill. Muslims don't like that sort of thing..
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What? Barak Obama is... BLACK?
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I agree. Apparently he publically sponsored a particularily savage late term abortion bill. Muslims don't like that sort of thing..
How late is late term? I thought that it was within three to six weeks for an abortion and no longer.
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One time I was watching a debate with the candidates of the American election. One of the people in the public asked Obama if he wanted the troops out of the middle east because of the American people or the muslim people? there was dead silence in the room. I nearly peed my pants in the couch.
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