Putinism

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Originally Posted by AnfangerUS

1. The propaganda promoted by Internationalist, anti- Christian, anti- traditionalist, Socialist media (ewww wonder who that would be).

For example, most of the NGOs promoting things you are talking about , especially in Eastern Europe, are being actively supported by the US government and its various "endowments for democracy". In most Eastern European countries former Communists are in power, firmly endorsed by the wonderful America. So don't tell us that some evil leftist politicians "hate America" and that it is supposedly a problem.

2. The rampant growth and replacement of traditional Western ethics and religion by total capitalism (yes the large corporations of the US play a significant role) and hedonism (thank you MTV and Hollywood).

The American "Conservatives", as far as I know, support this total Capitalism.

3. The growing effemininity of western men and the modern woman. The role of children and family is now secondary in the West. When will it be frowned upon that in some countries there are more pets than children?

Much of this way of life was imported from America (though not all).

4. The acceptance of multi-culturalism as the desired public approach to society.

Multiculturalism? A very American thing as well.

5. The mockery of traditional values. The dissappearance of traditions. Replaced by a bland modernity.

Again: the country that is the biggest promoter of "modernity" and crass materialism is...guess which...no prizes for guessing...

Yes many of those guilty may come from the US. Many historical errors were made

They are still being made.

There are tens of millions of Americans who have the backbone to celebrate their conservatism,

Celebrating Conservatism? That is so abstract a thing, that there is nothing to celebrate in it. Ridiculous. I celebrate Christmas, Easter, national holidays, etc., but not Conservatism. Political ideologies are there to be lived or analyzed, but not "celebrated".

are proud of their European heritage

Identity? Quarter Italian, quarter Finn, eighth Scottish?

Besides, heritage and identity are things that must be lived by, not just being proud. Pride in itself means nothing (although it's not always necessarily bad).

fill the churches every weekend

where the church pews are empty in churches that nothing more than museums

It is an American myth of empty European churches. Church attendance varies much from region to region and from country to country.

But Americans seem toi be quite fond of simplifications and stereotypes.

and will not be submissive to Islamists.

Meaning what? I don't see any Islamists taking over America. But Americans will be submissive to their government and corporations which are destroying them, especially submissive are the flag-waving, military-honouring patriots and Conservatives you are so ardently admiring.

That is better said then the majority of Europeans who want to dissolve their identity in a European Union

It was forced, shoved down the throats to most Europeans, this dissolving of the national sovereignity. Only the minority benefitting from it actually wants it.

Europe wake up know who are your true brothers and who are your true enemies.

Americanism and Islamism are two concepts equally alien to Europe.

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by AnfangerUS

Europe surely will not find the problems to its ailments if continues to focus on the "evils" of America.

That kind of argument could easily be turned around to support others, included Islam.

First and foremost the problems faced by Europe allegedly from America are very similar problems America faces.

Actually, whatever problems that America faces and their solutions are nothing similar to Europe's.

For a start us, as Europeans, demand the total preservation of the indigenous peoples of Europe, their traditions and their ancestral lands. The only Americans that I know that have a similar demand to ours are the Native American Indians.

1. The propaganda promoted by Internationalist, anti- Christian, anti- traditionalist, Socialist media (ewww wonder who that would be).

It is a disgrace (and a swindle) that Americans appeal to the term "christian" at all. In fact it is a disgrace (and a swindle) that they use and abuse it.

The Born Again Christians, the American Evangelicals, the Christian Identity, the Mormons and a long etcetera are only related to Christianity in Europe by the name. They are as much part of Christendom as Islam is.

Tradition, again, is unknown of in America as it is understood in Europe.

2. The rampant growth and replacement of traditional Western ethics and religion by total capitalism (yes the large corporations of the US play a significant role) and hedonism (thank you MTV and Hollywood).

That western that you speak of is the unethical and un-European construct created by America, and its underwriters are precisely Hollywood, MTV and the entire
machinery of American decadence promotion and propaganda.

3. The growing effemininity of western men and the modern woman. The role of children and family is now secondary in the West. When will it be frowned upon that in some countries there are more pets than children?

Indeed a problem but, how does it make it us any closer to America?

4. The acceptance of multi-culturalism as the desired public approach to society.

America's nature is multiculturalist. If we accepted an identification of America with Europe, we would be setting a bad example.

5. The mockery of traditional values. The dissappearance of traditions. Replaced by a bland modernity.

There are no traditional values that are common for Americans and Europeans. If you search America for such traditional values from its origins, you will find that the seed of modernity is there from its inception.

But if it is the American false morality of the hipocrite that you are confusing with traditional values, there is no need to worry because it is still very much alive there and it has not been replaced by any modernity (especially since modernity lies in the tradition of America).

Yes many of those guilty may come from the US. Many historical errors were made (the direction that the reconstrution of WW2 took, the abandonment of Hungary in 1956,etc). But do you think that geography should take precendence over ideology?

Which ideology would be common to Europe and America?

There are tens of millions of Americans who have the backbone to celebrate their conservatism, are proud of their European heritage

What they call their "European heritage" is a mocker to Europe. We've seen that one time too many in the mouth of people who are often unable to tell their ancestors beyond their father and mother (and rarely the father), dragging through the mud the heritage of European nations.

fill the churches every weekend, and will not be submissive to Islamists.

There aren't enough Muslims in America yet. But Americans are instead submissive to Jews.

What's happened in Europe is the betrayal of a few, and the unexpectancy of many. Not any submission.

That is better said then the majority of Europeans who want to dissolve their identity in a European Union

This is rich, considering that it was a Conservative American president one who called for a United States of Europe after WWII.

who disdain National symbols, where the church pews are empty in churches that nothing more than museums

You are in Germany, and I must ask where in Germany. It is not the same throughout Europe.

In Spain, on Friday, you could see churches full during the Misa de Infantes, and the national symbols everywhere on the balconies, as part of the festivities that celebrate our National Day. In many countries of Eastern Europe the Orthodox Church has seen a revival.

and who allow the Muslim hordes in defending them and calling them "Germans, Frenchmen,etc.". Europe wake up know who are your true brothers and who are your true enemies.

Our true brothers are those who so hardly try in Europe a Muslim country of 71 million people, Turkey, as payment for their alliance with America? or that benefits and supports other Muslim countries (Morocco, Chechnya) against the interests of European countries?

Travel around Europe and see for yourself that there is no such brotherhood.