What's your favourite European food ?

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Duchemin

Ha, there's also the galician version of Cassoulet : err "fabada"? (with strange black sausage with some fat in it)

The "fabada" is Asturian, not Galician. There is a sea variation called "fabes con almejas" (with clams).

In Spain you find many different types of "cassoulettes" depending on the territory, and variations within territories. Most often the name for it is "cocido", but also "olla", "puchero", "escudella", etc..
Each region has it adapted to the local ingredients.

As for the "boullabaise", try the "suquet de peix" in Catalunya or Valencia.

In Galicia they have something similar to the crepe Breton, but I can't remember its name now.

What you call "ratatouille" is actually "pisto" from La Mancha.

Wild boar is French? First news.

You snails are big and shabby, most times cooked with just butter. The best snails are small ones, tastier, cooked in nice sauces as we do here. In Valencia we differentiate among a variety of snails, and cook them accordingly.

"Paella" is actually the name for fry-pan which has generalized to mean one of the varieties of rice cooked in it. In Valencia there are many different recipes for rice in paella which is always a "dry" rice, but also many in "casserole" which can be "caldoso" (brothy) or "meloso" (between dry and brothy).


In the end, my dear Duchemin, France's cuisine is somehow a dellusion, a mirage. Its success is due to what has been taken from the Occitan cuisine and made pass as "French".

Also, it is known that during the Napoleonic invasion many of the cookbooks from Spanish monasteries were stolen by the French, and later published in Paris as French. There was one wife of a French marshall who did not even bother with modifying the ingredients to adapt them, and published them as her own recipes.

Ahh.. la France..

[Cristoforo]

I voted for Italian food but of course I like the Maltese food too like the Rabbit cooked as we know (mmmm... delicious ) or the hobz biz-zejt (Maltese bread, tomatoes or kunserva, capers, olives, gbejniet tal-bzar, olive oil).

Last time I went to Strasbourg, I liked the Tartiflette Flambee and in Germany, I liked that sort of German equivalent of the Mc Donalds selling German bread with seafood in it.

[Zyklop]

Originally Posted by Cristoforo

in Germany, I liked that sort of German equivalent of the Mc Donalds selling German bread with seafood in it.

Nordsee?

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

I voted for Spanish and French (I'll make no comments here this time ).

They are the only two cuisines that I consider well above all others in quality and variety.

Originally Posted by Mynydd

In the end, my dear Duchemin, France's cuisine is somehow a dellusion, a mirage. Its success is due to what has been taken from the Occitan cuisine and made pass as "French".

Also, it is known that during the Napoleonic invasion many of the cookbooks from Spanish monasteries were stolen by the French, and later published in Paris as French. There was one wife of a French marshall who did not even bother with modifying the ingredients to adapt them, and published them as her own recipes.

Ahh.. la France..

Last time I went to Strasbourg, I liked the Tartiflette Flambee

Great choice !

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Der Elsasser

It's easy. See..

Originally Posted by Mynydd on Monday, April 18th, 2005

I voted for Spanish and French (I'll make no comments here this time ).

They are the only two cuisines that I consider well above all others in quality and variety.

That was then, but now..

Originally Posted by Mynydd on Sunday, May 29th, 2005

In the end, my dear Duchemin, France's cuisine is somehow a dellusion, a mirage. Its success is due to what has been taken from the Occitan cuisine and made pass as "French".

Also, it is known that during the Napoleonic invasion many of the cookbooks from Spanish monasteries were stolen by the French, and later published in Paris as French. There was one wife of a French marshall who did not even bother with modifying the ingredients to adapt them, and published them as her own recipes.

Ahh.. la France..

The small print in my first post was that I actually considered Spanish and Occitan cuisines superior.

Great choice !

I know.

[Cristoforo]

Originally Posted by Zyklop

Nordsee?

Yep

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by Mynydd

The "fabada" is Asturian, not Galician. There is a sea variation called "fabes con almejas" (with clams).

Gallicians, Asturians... Ok if you want Professor. Sea version, yum it seems great!

In Spain you find many different types of "cassoulettes" depending on the territory, and variations within territories. Most often the name for it is "cocido", but also "olla", "puchero", "escudella", etc..
Each region has it adapted to the local ingredients.

So what?... North African eat tomatoes as european meds. Does it make them Spanish or Italian? I don't think so. Occitans and you eat the same things, good, you get at least one thing in comon. :p

As for the "boullabaise", try the "suquet de peix" in Catalunya or Valencia.

Some Fish soup too? Hmm, your "suquet" must be some "Bouillinade" (a fish soup from Languedoc very similar to "boullabaise").

In Galicia they have something similar to the crepe Breton, but I can't remember its name now.

But do you know breton "Galettes" made with flour of Sarasin (named by its colour)?

Wild boar is French? First news.

Since wild boar was the symbol of our mighty Gallic ancestors (French cock came latter), I consider it french. Yes, I consider "pâté" and such dishes made with wild boar french : "carré de sanglier (wild boar) des Ardennes". Sounds pretty french. Maybe it is cooked in Spain or somewhere else, I don't know.

Btw, your "jamon serano" is quite good for a spanish ham. I appreciate your poultry too : "Pollo".

You snails are big and shabby, most times cooked with just butter. The best snails are small ones, tastier, cooked in nice sauces as we do here. In Valencia we differentiate among a variety of snails, and cook them accordingly.

Sure, and yours go faster than ours... Amigo, it is not just "butter", but "butter with parsley and garlic" please.

"Paella" is actually the name for fry-pan which has generalized to mean one of the varieties of rice cooked in it. In Valencia there are many different recipes for rice in paella which is always a "dry" rice, but also many in "casserole" which can be "caldoso" (brothy) or "meloso" (between dry and brothy).

Hey, cuisine and culture. Good! But I knew it. I'm french, not american. I was in Valencia a few months ago (Paella has its origin there, right?) but my mother's paella is better. For the name : It happens that Paella is just the name by which we call... "Paella". Not my fault. Life is life.

In the end, my dear Duchemin, France's cuisine is somehow a dellusion, a mirage. Its success is due to what has been taken from the Occitan cuisine and made pass as "French".

Also, it is known that during the Napoleonic invasion many of the cookbooks from Spanish monasteries were stolen by the French, and later published in Paris as French. There was one wife of a French marshall who did not even bother with modifying the ingredients to adapt them, and published them as her own recipes.

Ahh.. la France..

Wow, we stole spanish cuisine books!!! I feel guilty. What a drama! Didn't you spanish mistake us with Brits by chance?
You're a very funny guy Mynydd, even cuisine has a political purpose for you. "I want my recipe back".

About spanish cuisine, you should have a quick look to french comic "Asterix in Hispania" (Astérix en Hispanie). There are passages about how spanish olive oil cuisine would is too rich.



PS : I didn't talk about "Ratatouille" but I like it too.

[Theobald]

Does it show Mynydd trying to "liberate" Breizh ?

[Heretik]

Any as long there's meat in it.

[Aeternitas]

Originally Posted by M.Duchemin

You're a very funny guy Mynydd, even cuisine has a political purpose for you. "I want my recipe back".

In other words, he's a Spaniard. But it's priceless.

Though, can't we all just get along?

[Menydh]

Originally Posted by Aeternitas

Though, can't we all just get along?

I\'ve tried, but then I get a stab the back..

I should have known better.

Originally Posted by M.Duchemin

Gallicians, Asturians... Ok if you want Professor.

Whatever..

So what?... North African eat tomatoes as european meds.

Fresh? Fried? in salad? in a sauce? Tomatoes are a cuisine dish?

I don't think so. Occitans and you eat the same things, good, you get at least one thing in comon. :p

I was in the [perhaps wrong] belief that a cuisine is, among many others, one of the things that identify cultures. And as you know, there are too many other things which Occitans and Spaniards have in common, ethno-culturally speaking... and not with northern French.

Since wild boar was the symbol of our mighty Gallic ancestors (French cock came latter), I consider it french. [...] sanglier (wild boar) des Ardennes".
Sounds pretty french. Maybe it is cooked in Spain or somewhere else, I don't know.

Yes, the word sanglier sounds pretty French (and that makes the wild boar French.. whatever.. ).

Of course that if it was written senglar it would sound pretty Catalan. But no..

By the way, isn't blue written as bleu in French? Makes one wonder if then the colour blue is an English colour, or the French are English (internal joke).

Hey, cuisine and culture. Good! But I knew it. I'm french, not american. I was in Valencia a few months ago (Paella has its origin there, right?)

Right.

but my mother's paella is better. For the name : It happens that Paella is just the name by which we call... "Paella".

Not just you, but nearly anywhere outside Valencia. Sorry to break this moment of a sense of uniqueness.

Not my fault. Life is life.

I didn't have the feeling of being blaming you for anything. I thought that you might like to know if you didn't know. I always like to know these small details. But hey.. sorry..

What a drama!

Not really a drama, just one more chapter. A drama would be the fine archetectonic, historical buildings which were sacked and badly damaged by the napoleonic army rabble, and the art pieces shamelessly robbed by the officers and their wifes.

Didn't you spanish mistake us with Brits by chance?

Ah.. the above mentioned were British? How should I know? They spoke French and dressed like French soldiers and officers.Tricky Brits.

You're a very funny guy Mynydd, even cuisine has a political purpose for you. "I want my recipe back".

Good grief.. I can't even point to some facts related to culture (not politics) without being accused of using them as political weapons..

About spanish cuisine, you should have a quick look to french comic "Asterix in Hispania" (Astérix en Hispanie).

Or to Disneyland for architecture?

[Carnyx]

Originally Posted by B M

In other words, he's a Spaniard. But it's priceless.

Though, can't we all just get along?

Originally Posted by Mynydd

Fresh? Fried? in salad? in a sauce? Tomatoes are a cuisine dish?

I was in the [perhaps wrong] belief that a cuisine is, among many others, one of the things that identify cultures. And as you know, there are too many other things which Occitans and Spaniards have in common, ethno-culturally speaking... and not with northern French.

No, I agree that cuisine is a way to identify oneself culturally. However Tomatoe is used by many Mediterraneans (I don't like this word), that don't make them brothers or bound by one "mediterranean culture". What is called "Ratatouille" or "Pisto" even exists all along the mare nostrum's coast. That's my point.

South and North have different influences, Midi has more mediterranean influences (logical). Anyway, it exists a comon heritage for both north and midi.

Yes, the word sanglier sounds pretty French (and that makes the wild boar French.. whatever.. ).

There are French dishes with wild boar, it happens I like it, it's not my fault.

By the way, isn't blue written as bleu in French? Makes one wonder if then the colour blue is an English colour, or the French are English (internal joke).

Yes, people borrow foreign vocabulary. Bleu : old high-germanic blao (shining). I would say it's a Frankish heritage, not a brit one.

I didn't have the feeling of being blaming you for anything. I thought that you might like to know if you didn't know. I always like to know these small details. But hey.. sorry..

I wasn't upset, just joking. Ok, ok, It's me. I like it too.

Not really a drama, just one more chapter. A drama would be the fine archetectonic, historical buildings which were sacked and badly damaged by the napoleonic army rabble, and the art pieces shamelessly robbed by the officers and their wifes.

Yes, war is uncool.

Good grief.. I can't even point to some facts related to culture (not politics) without being accused of using them as political weapons..

You can see that I quoted many spanish dishes without criticals and didn't make any scale of value between our two national cusines.