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BNP ballerina takes to the stage in a new unflattering spotlight
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In the seats were members of the British National Party. On the stage was Simone Clarke, the ballerina and party supporter. And outside was a crowd denouncing her as a fascist. This is the scene in which pensioners and schoolchildren found themselves yesterday at the matinee performance of Giselle at the London Coliseum.

The dancer from Yorkshire is in the starring role in the English National Ballet production, returning to the stage for the first time since she was exposed as a member of the BNP.



Ms Clarke, 36, one of two British principals in the company, has defended her views, saying that she felt that the BNP was the only party “willing to take a stand”. She said: “I have been labelled a racist and a fascist because I have a view on immigration, and I mean mass immigration, but isn’t that something that a lot of people worry about? I will be known as the ‘BNP ballerina’. I’d rather it wasn’t like that, but I will stay a member.”


Senior members of the party turned up at the theatre in Covent Garden to show their support. Supporters of the anti-BNP group Unite Against Fascism were protesting. The BNP members were ushered away from the front doors by police, but about 25 went on to attend the performance. Two protesters also attended, but they were ejected ten minutes in after they stood up to denounce the dancer and her political views.

Richard Barnbrook, the BNP councillor for Barking and Dagenham, said: “I don’t normally go to the ballet but I’m supporting her freedom of expression.”

He claimed that he had no objection to Clarke’s relationship with her Cuban-Chinese partner, Yat-Sen Chang, but he was less comfortable discussing their daughter. “I’m not opposed to mixed marriages, but their children are washing out the identity of this country’s indigenous people,” he said, quickly adding: “That’s my view, it’s not the party’s view.”

Protesters chanted slogans such as “We are Muslim, black and Jew, there are many more of us than you” and “Ballet should be Nazi-free, stop the Fascist BNP”.

English National Ballet, whose dancers are drawn from 19 countries, has repeatedly refused to comment on the political affiliations of their star performer, emphasising that her views were personal and did not breach the publicly funded company’s obligation to adhere to the Race Relations Act 2000.

However, Weyman Bennett, of Unite Against Fascism, said: “There should be no difference between a private racist opinion and a public racist opinion.”

Outside the theatre, teenagers on a school trip described the stand-off as intimidating; elderly theatregoers muttered that it was disgraceful. They were referring to the protesters rather than the BNP members. Some expressed sympathy with the party.

Only Judy Chan, 62, said that she felt so strongly about the BNP hijacking the event for political gain that she decided to give up her ticket and boycott the performance.

“I just felt that I would not be able to enjoy the performance or applaud the person on stage,” she said. “Throughout my life, I have seen the awful effects of fascism. I would rather stand outside and show my solidarity with these people.”
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Why does it matter what her politics are?

She just dances. She doesn't bring politics into her dance...

So why does it really matter to them? They are the ones hijacking the event for promotion, not the BNP...
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The headline says Marxists hooligans.
There is a site called Red Watch runned by White Nationalists (I don't particulaly agree with all their views)

But this site is dedicated to tracking the activity of British Marxists wich are of the worst kind in Europe for them anything goes.

You only have to look at the pictures to know what they are all about:
REDWATCH - Why We Exist

So frankly I am not in the least surprissed at this headline.
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I have absolutely no sypmathy for BNP, but these Marxists-Communists really make me sick...
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I'm so proud of this ballerina for not being intimidated into renouncing her support. Her career might not go very smoothly from here on in, so this was very brave and selfless of her.
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Protesters chanted slogans such as “We are Muslim, black and Jew, there are many more of us than you”
A great way to gain sympathy amongst native Britons...

Hehe, her Chinese husband should have been there and reminded them just who exactly is in the majority.
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Hehe, her Chinese husband should have been there and reminded them just who exactly is in the majority.
Do you mean that the BNP thugs have spent all this time insulting and calling racist names to other Europeans without even being provoked, to now have their asses saved by a British ballerina married to a Chinese man?

That is so British National Pathetic!
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BNP thugs
This ballerina was obviously not put off by the fact that the party is so dominated by these 'thugs' that you love to talk about. Or is she one of them, in your skewed vision of the BNP?
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Isn't it just - that we have an anti-immigration political movement that can count among its members prominent figures of high culture, willing to take a stand for their political beliefs.

Of course, I'm not delighted that she married a Chinaman [though some anthropological experts here on the forum might see a key qualitative difference between mixing with progressive North Asians and mixing with the average 3rd Worlder, and I suppose he must be an accomplished musician], but this isn't Germany in the 1930s. A certain degree of admixture might not hurt too much, provided it was very rare, with more complementary stocks and the result of personal relationships rather than the result of entire underclasses being shipped here en masse with no attachment to or awareness of anything in British life.

How awful for you, Mynydd, that the BNP gets some good press for a change!
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This ballerina was obviously not put off by the fact that the party is so dominated by these 'thugs' that you love to talk about. Or is she one of them, in your skewed vision of the BNP?
Skewed? I stick to facts. There is no need to twist things.

It is only through desperation that such people in Britain might end up supporting the BNP. A desperation and hopelessness that is made obvious in the fact that the BNP, a racist party, is resorting to a mixed couple like them. Not to mention the BNP candidate in the papers telling how proud he is of his half African grandchildren. Honorability and decency is not something that you lost recently.

That being the chances of a racist gang, how could they be called anything but British National Pathetics?

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Isn't it just - that we have an anti-immigration political movement that can count among its members prominent figures of high culture, willing to take a stand for their political beliefs.
Anti-immigration my foot. Plain racist and hatemongering at it. Who do you think you are trying to fool?

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Of course, I'm not delighted that she married a Chinaman
Oh, you are not delighted? And when are you planning to tell her that if she ever had children the name-calling for them under BNP standards is mongrels? Just curious.

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[though some anthropological experts here on the forum might see a key qualitative difference between mixing with progressive North Asians ...]
Progressive North Assian, right?

I'd say that your hopes are progressively pathetic. He is, in fact, part Chinese and part Cuban.

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but this isn't Germany in the 1930s.
No, this is Stirpes. The New Age nazi forum where you happen to be a staff member is another.

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A certain degree of admixture might not hurt too much, provided it was very rare, with more complementary stocks and the result of personal relationships
I beg to differ. British admixture can hurt much. An honest man, be him Chinese or part Chinese, might turn dishonest.

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rather than the result of entire underclasses being shipped here en masse with no attachment to or awareness of anything in British life.
Don't worry. They would progress into Britishness.

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How awful for you, Mynydd, that the BNP gets some good press for a change!
Why? No! It is part of the show.


You know, you can fool some people with your whining, but it is pathetic that you whine on behalf of a gang which has dedicated a part of their resources to launch infamous slanders against other nations, without even being provoked. Just for the sake of pleasing their hatemongering nature. And still you are not ashamed to ask "why fellow nationalists are so unsupportive ..?" Fellows? How hypocritical is that? You don't spit on your fellows. And you don't spit on the people who you have begged to help you campaigning among your damn fellow countrymen here, while they were unaware of your true face. You have no shame. You are not to be trusted one inch.
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It is only through desperation that such people in Britain might end up supporting the BNP.
Haven't you noticed? Our situation IS desparate. I take no pleasure from the fact that yours will be soon enough.
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A desperation and hopelessness that is made obvious in the fact that the BNP, a racist party, is resorting to a mixed couple like them.
You know what - I AM a 'racist'. What of it?

This is a word dreamt up by the enemies of European uniqueness, and refers to anyone who dares realise what his eyes and instincts tell him about his fellow humans. I'm surprised to see you using it so readily.

You don't have to be racist to oppose mass immigration anyway, nor do you have to be racist to support the BNP.
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Progressive North Assian, right?
Agrippa's always talking about this, not me. I don't really agree on the implications.
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I'd say that your hopes are progressively pathetic. He is, in fact, part Chinese and part Cuban.
I haven't bothered to check; I don't avidly scour the media for dirt on the BNP everyday.
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You know, you can fool some people with your whining, but it is pathetic that you whine on behalf of a gang which has dedicated a part of their resources to launch infamous slanders against other nations, without even being provoked. Just for the sake of pleasing their hatemongering nature. And still you are not ashamed to ask "why fellow nationalists are so unsupportive ..?" Fellows? How hypocritical is that? You don't spit on your fellows. And you don't spit on the people who you have begged to help you campaigning among your damn fellow countrymen here, while they were unaware of your true face. You have no shame. You are not to be trusted one inch.
I've already admitted that this is a political party with a Past. I for one don't like to wallow in that, and look to the future. Perhaps this ballerina's example might spark a lot of new memberships, and the party will change accordingly as the old core is increasingly forced to deal with a new sort of member.

Can you get your head round the idea that a Party's policy or even secret intentions need not be those of all its supporters, and they are in fact changeable?
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Haven't you noticed? Our situation IS desparate. I take no pleasure from the fact that yours will be soon enough.
I noticed as early as 1989. This is 17 years later. I took no pleasure then. Later I learned that I should take no pain either.

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You know what - I AM a 'racist'. What of it?
Well, I'm not. I'm an ethnic nationalist. At least politically and ideologically speaking I am not. I don't feel the need to hate other races or nations.

It is something that has always shocked me that the one element for a British identity should be that.

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This is a word dreamt up by the enemies of European uniqueness, and refers to anyone who dares realise what his eyes and instincts tell him about his fellow humans. I'm surprised to see you using it so readily.
I am surprised of the things that I've mentioned through the posts. Yet you don't seem to understand why I should be. Why should I care?

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You don't have to be racist to oppose mass immigration anyway, nor do you have to be racist to support the BNP.
There will always be a difference between you and us. Keeping your integrity is important, especially in difficult times. I wouldn't support a group which is not up to a minimum standards of honesty.

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Agrippa's always talking about this, not me. I don't really agree on the implications.
The implications are based on racial bases, not ethnic. They are certainly arguable to say the least and of no political value.

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I haven't bothered to check; I don't avidly scour the media for dirt on the BNP everyday.
I was searching for information on her, not the BNP. Anyway, it is not as if one could find anything but dirt if searching for the BNP.

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I've already admitted that this is a political party with a Past.
Was that when you said that is was "past" or when you said something alone the lines of being "in a process to be left behind"?

I see how that is an apology. However it is not with you personally that there is a problem, nor would I ever look forward to or accept an apology. Rather, I would like to obtain explanations which helped me understand the reasons why the BNP deemed interesting for their cause to be so hostile and fallacious to those who have no business with the immigration problem in Britain.

Also, I would like to understand the rational behind denying the Irish their right to a full and free nation while demanding it for oneself.

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I for one don't like to wallow in that, and look to the future.
Not surprisingly.

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Perhaps this ballerina's example might spark a lot of new memberships, and the party will change accordingly as the old core is increasingly forced to deal with a new sort of member.
Umh.. so maybe someone should keep a few memories now that the dirt is being swept under the carpet.

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Can you get your head round the idea that a Party's policy or even secret intentions need not be those of all its supporters, and they are in fact changeable?
Tell us about those secret intentions.
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I don't feel the need to hate other races or nations.
Wh said anything about hate? I made it clear that 'racist' is a stupid buzzword that means whatever a multicult accuser wants it to.
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It is something that has always shocked me that the one element for a British identity should be that.
How sensitive you are.
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I wouldn't support a group which is not up to a minimum standards of decency.[
There's no choice, and the group's going through a serious transition.
QUOTE] I see how that is an apology. However it is not with you personally that this problem is, nor would I ever look forward to an apology. Rather, obtain explanations which heltped me to understand the reasons why the BNP deemed interesting for their cause to be so hostile and fallacious to those who have no business with the immigration problem in Britain.[/quote]
Whatever some ignorant hothead said once to so upset you, forget it. What does it matter when the British are being displaced from their own cities while their rulers turn a blind eye, or even worse, tell us to welcome annihilation?
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Also, I would like to understand the rational behind denying the Irish their right to a full and free nation while demanding it for oneself.
Yawn. The Northern Irish are a distinct ethnicity in their own right. 32 County agitators wilfully ignore this, and as often as not approve of destroying it by violent means.
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Tell us about those secret intentions.
You're the expert, why don't you thus aid the multiculturalists?
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There's no choice, and the group's going through a serious transition.
Either you remove the foundations (including the leadership) or it is about a facelift.

I hope that you keep me updated on that transition. If you want your username to reflect that transition, I would suggest we change it to Lee Wanch Hen.

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I see how that is an apology. However it is not with you personally that this problem is, nor would I ever look forward to an apology. Rather, obtain explanations which heltped me to understand the reasons why the BNP deemed interesting for their cause to be so hostile and fallacious to those who have no business with the immigration problem in Britain.
Whatever some ignorant hothead said once to so upset you, forget it. What does it matter when the British are being displaced from their own cities while their rulers turn a blind eye, or even worse, tell us to welcome annihilation?
But.. has it been one ignorant hothead?

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Yawn. The Northern Irish are a distinct ethnicity in their own right. 32 County agitators wilfully ignore this, and as often as not approve of destroying it by violent means.
The Northern Irish are the Irish in the occupied northern part of Ireland.

That's another problem with you, people: denying the right of reunion to a people, denying them their own identity.

If you don't see the intrinsec evil in it, I tell you that it will get back to you one day.

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You're the expert, why don't you thus aid the multiculturalists?
You mean the British multiculturalists? Because those accusations of helping multiculturalism are pathetic taking into account that the concept of British is proto-multiculturalist.


What's funny is that the BNP has stretched and abused the race issue so far, and under the multiculturalist umbrella of Britishism, and now it's starting to get back to them in the form of members.
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I must agree "Racist" is just a word they made up to keep you in line. Almost like an invisible shock collar, once they say your a racist most people almost die which I find funny. Like If I was to say "All black guys are rich and succesful" nothing would happen. But If I said "All black guys are prone to be more violent because of higher testosterone level's" I'd be called an evil Racist. Now keep in mind I'm not a mindless head case you runs around shouting "Ni**er" and stuff. I'm just sick of the double standard nowaday's. I mean for god's sake I don't even think it's legal to call a black guy black. Yet you can call me white, cracker etc. Also Mynydd is it me or do you appear to have a problem with the UK?. As this is the second thread iv seen with negative comments towards the UK. If you don't have a problem with the UK then I appologise , but I would just like to know where you stand .
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