France's extremist alliance

[Strengthandhonour]

France's extremist alliance

France's extremist alliance


Royal's success brings radicals together in face of common enemy Paris: It sounds like a bad joke, but this is the gloomy reality. France' far-right nationalist politician is pursuing the black electoral vote. Jean-Marie Le Pen, currently 78-years-old, is immersed in what will undoubtedly prove to be his last election campaign for the presidency.


And the new tactic adopted by the historic leader of the new French nationalism is "moderation."

Le Pen's campaign is primarily directed at the black community and toward the immigrant community in general. One of his election posters, therefore, depicts a dark skinned woman. He even made a covenant with Dieudonné M'bala, a black "comedian" who primarily excels in making anti-Semitic statements.

This month senior members of Le Pen's party, including his wife, attended one of Dieudonne's performances, after the "comedian" had joined a party conference that received high media coverage. Will the two "extremes touch" as the political saying in France goes?

Of course not. Judging by the signs, this is a highly calculated overture between the two, who among other things built their careers on anti-Jewish statements.

Anti-Jewish
Le Pen called the gas chambers "a small historic detail" and minimized the cruelty of the Nazi occupation of France, which dispatched tens of thousands of Jews to their deaths.

Dieudonné called Jews "the worst type of swindlers" and warned against "the Jews who manned all the strategic posts in France. He called the ceremonies marking 60 years to the liberation of Auschwitz "remembrance pornography."

What does Le Pen think of the anti-Semitic jokes made by the "comedian"? "They could be funny. No subject should be exempt from criticism and irony." He added, "Those who make the most fun of the Jews are the Jews themselves."

Of course the Jews can be laughed at; even anti-Semitism can be made fun of. It all depends on who is telling the joke. Woody Allen made a career out of telling jokes about the Jews and he even got an Oscar for it.

Le Pen built an entire career on xenophobia and anti-Semitic slips of the tongue, and he received more and more of the electoral vote. Everyone has their own humor and audience.

The French public is eagerly awaiting the two-act play at the polls on April 22nd and on May 6th - the first and second rounds of the presidential elections. Le Pen, a veteran in the political arena, hopes to repeat his successful performance of 2002, when he made it to the second round at the expense of a left-wing candidate.
This time commentators believe that he has a chance of doing so at the expense of a right-wing candidate, Nicolas Sarkozy, and to make it to the second round against leftist candidate Ségolène Royal.

At present the Right seems to be embroiled in much more conflict than the Left. Le Pen is dreaming of a head-on clash with the popular leader, and believes he will achieve better results than the 18 percent he received when contending against Jacques Chirac in the previous elections.

Le Pen, therefore, is in need of every vote and is thus eying the immigrants. Even if they don't vote for him, the "Openness" is supposed to bring closer the votes of those who previously feared voting for the "radical" Le Pen and who may agree to vote for the more "moderate" version. Le Pen is convinced he will have the last laugh.

source: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...349396,00.html

[Sergius]

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This "alliance" with Dieudonné is due to the influence of the new adviser of the FN, the Marxist writer Alain Soral.

Le Pen, therefore, is in need of every vote and is thus eying the immigrants. Even if they don't vote for him, the "Openness" is supposed to bring closer the votes of those who previously feared voting for the "radical" Le Pen and who may agree to vote for the more "moderate" version.

Indeed. The goal of this strategy is to increase the score of the FN, which has stayed constant around 15-17% since 10 years. Maybe that will work.

[Pantera]

i hope we wins the elections,or at least get the second place
he have done great progresses in France,but it is need much more

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Pantera

i hope we wins the elections,or at least get the second place

"We" ?

Anyway although I still support the FN as it is the only serious nationalist movement in France, I really don't want them to win elections. Le Pen's victory would just mean a Republican dictatorship, pseudo-nationalist and pro-integrationnist.

I don't see any problem in making strategic alliances with non-Europeans - like Le Pen formerly did with Arab nationalists or like some French right-wing movements are currently doing with Kemi Seba, a Black supremacist leader ("we have the same enemies, we want the same things : no racial mixing, Black people in Africa and Europe to the Europeans therefore we can work together"). But I can't tolerate this :

Le Pen's campaign is primarily directed at the black community and toward the immigrant community in general.

Well, this could be another Le Pen's tactic to make nationalism grow... But it is "too much" in my opinion. We are losing our soul with such strategies.

[Strengthandhonour]

I am sure the We was just a spelling error theobald.

[Pantera]

Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour

I am sure the We was just a spelling error theobald.

that´s right.i´m sorry,i wanted to say "he".."i hope he wins the elections"
Thanks,for the correction

Theobald:
Well, this could be another Le Pen's tactic to make nationalism grow... But it is "too much" in my opinion. We are losing our soul with such strategies.

I don´t think that way friend.
Le Pen,for a long time,that has some niggers and jews in the party,and arabs,and they are french nationalists and they love French.
If "he" wins the election,then many immigrants will leave France,but of course many will stay,then i will ask you, that the solution to this immigrants?You cannot expel them all...then you have no reason not to make this kind of strategie

Au revoir!!

[Theobald]

Originally Posted by Pantera

that´s right.i´m sorry,i wanted to say "he".."i hope he wins the elections"
Thanks,for the correction

Ok, no big deal anyway. I was just wondering since you say you are Portuguese in your profile.

Originally Posted by Pantera

I don´t think that way friend.
Le Pen,for a long time,that has some niggers and jews in the party,and arabs,and they are french nationalists and they love French.
If "he" wins the election,then many immigrants will leave France,but of course many will stay,then i will ask you, that the solution to this immigrants?You cannot expel them all...

Indeed Le Pen's motto has been - for quite a long time now - "France, love her or leave her". However, being an ethnic nationalist and not a republican patriot, I don't agree with it.
To sum it up since the end of the 19th century and the rise of an ethnic nationalism with Maurras and Barrès (anti-integrationnist), as opposed to a left republican nationalism inspired by 1789 ideals (pro-integrationnist), there has always been two different factions inside French nationalism. And Le Pen has managed to unite them into the National Front, which partly explains his electoral successes. Which also explains why you can find everything in the FN, from "patriotic" Jews and West Indians to hardcore ethnic nationalists.
The solution ? Of course currently we can't expel them all. But I'd rather live with 5 millions of Ethnic French in a reduced territory than in a multicural Nation of 60 millions of "Black-Blanc-Beur French" wearing the tricolore flag and singing the Marseillaise. Jean Raspail explains it better than me :

Originally Posted by Jean Raspail

Without doubt, there will remain what is called in ethnology some isolates, some powerful minorities, perhaps about 15 million French who will still speak our language more or less unbroken and will insist on remaining impregnated with our culture and our history such as was transmitted to us from generation to generation. It will not be easy for them.

Facing the various "communities" which one sees being formed today on the ruins of integration (or rather on its progressive reversal: it is us whom one integrates into "the other", now, and no more the opposite) and which in 2050 will be permanently and without doubt institutionally installed, it will be to some extent - I seek a suitable term - about a community of French continuity. This one will be based on its families, her birth-rate, its endogamy of survival, its schools, its parallel networks of solidarity, perhaps even its geographical areas, its portions of territory, its districts, even its places of safety and, why not, its Christian, and catholic faith with a small chance if this cement still holds.

That will not please. The clash will take place some time or another. Something like the elimination of the Kulaks by suitable legal means. And then?

Then France will no longer be peopled, all confused origins, except by hermit crabs who will live in shells left behind by the representatives of a species gone forever which was called the French species and unannounced, by one does not know which genetic metamorphosis, that which in second half of this century will have been clothed with this name. This process has already started.

There is one second hypothesis that I could not formulate otherwise than privately and which would require that I consulted my lawyer beforehand, it is that the last isolates resist until initiating a kind of reconquest undoubtedly different from the Spanish but taking as its starting point the same reasons. This will be a perilous story to write about. It is not me who will be charged with this, as I have already done my bit. Its author has probably not yet been born, but this book will see the light of day at the appointed time, I am sure...

You can read the whole text there : The Fatherland Betrayed by The Republic

That's what I consider as a solution. I don't believe anymore in electoral ways. However the FN remains an important instrument to propagate nationalist ideas.

Originally Posted by Pantera

then you have no reason not to make this kind of strategie

Well, even if it is just strategical, I can't agree with the fact that "Le Pen's campaign is primarily directed at the black community and toward the immigrant community in general". A nationalist campaign should be primarily directed at the natives, the ethnic French. Or traditional FN supporters are going to feel betrayed. And Le Pen will lose votes. I already hear many people complaining about that new alliance with Dieudonné.