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A young Russian skinhead pleaded guilty to killing 37 people. Artur Ryno, 18, was arrested in April together with his friend Pavel Skachevski, 18, for killing an Armenian . Afterwards, the teenager told the police that he and his friend had brutally killed dozens of innocent people.




When Artur Ryno, a student at Moscow icon painting school, told the police the details of his executions and cleanups they did not believe him at first. They thought that he was slandering himself. However, the investigation confirmed some of his testimony . If the police find the evidence of other crimes the case may develop into an international scandal, because it will be possible to interpret it as massive murder of individuals representing national minorities in Russia, Vremya Novostei reports.
Ryno and Skachevski were arrested on April 17 after the killing of Karen Abramian, a businessman from Armenia. The criminals tried to flee from the scene; but witnesses saw them boarding a tram. The witness reported the tram’s number to the police who then chased the tram and detained the two young men. Police officers said that the criminals’ clothes were covered with blood stains.
Investigators say that Artur described many details of his crimes that he had committed. His friend Pavel Skachevski denies responsibility, saying that he has never attacked anybody.
When being questioned for the first time the two young men refused to plead guilty to the murder of the businessman from Armenia. Afterwards, investigators showed them a videotape filmed by surveillance camera installed above the door of the house where the victim lived. The faces of the criminals were clearly seen on the tape. Artur Ryno started talking. He told the police about the murder of the Armenian man and then proceeded to another crime that he had committed shortly before that. As a result, the young man pleaded guilty to killing 37 people.
Artur explained his actions with hatred that he said he was nurturing towards people from southern regions of Russia, so-called Caucasians.
The teenagers committed the crimes in different parts of Moscow. They would go to dormitory suburbs at night time and simply wait for a victim. There were days when their waiting returned no results, although on other occasions they could attack two or more individuals. Artur said that there were witnesses in many of his crimes, although nobody tried to stop them.
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I cannot truly believe how evil some people can be.
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Bravo for this man. I dislike russian imperial politic, but there they have problems with "aliens" too...
"Bravo"?! Are you kidding me? How dare you sit here, and congratulate these.. animals. They beat an innocent man to death, and you not only congratulate them, but you also congratulate them on the murder of 36 innocent more people.

This, is not defending ones nation, this is mindless, brutal and barbaric murder, that should not be glorified at any instance. I wonder how well these people will do for Russia stuck in a jail cell. One I pray they never leave.
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Artur Ryno? Is that a real Russian name?
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Artur Ryno? Is that a real Russian name?
Possibly Romanian... Who knows, Moscow is big. Ive searched around, they spell his lastname as Reno sometimes.
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"Bravo"?! Are you kidding me? How dare you sit here, and congratulate these.. animals. They beat an innocent man to death, and you not only congratulate them, but you also congratulate them on the murder of 36 innocent more people.

This, is not defending ones nation, this is mindless, brutal and barbaric murder, that should not be glorified at any instance. I wonder how well these people will do for Russia stuck in a jail cell. One I pray they never leave.
It's frustration, my Scottish friend. The government hardly does anything to defend the nation, and though his actions were brutal, they were not completely mindless.

And besides, wouldn't the more guilty be those who stood around and did nothing?
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It's frustration, my Scottish friend. The government hardly does anything to defend the nation, and though his actions were brutal, they were not completely mindless.

And besides, wouldn't the more guilty be those who stood around and did nothing?
Obviously the bystanders were just as guilty, but in my opinion, actions such as this were mindless. Mindless because this men by trying to defend their cause they end up harming it more. How do you think this affects the people of Europe when they read it? people associate skinheads with nationalist movements unfortunately, and this does not help our cause but makes it much worst.
plus, as stated above, there is nothing about this story that screams defending the nation to me. This people attacked innocents most of the time..and seriously, defending their nation from a businessman? haha please..they don't even have the courage to attack the real criminals who hurt their nation.
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S+H, I'd agree it's a stupid action, but at least they care (edit: or appear to...) . It shows something... It seems this is the only sort of nationalism one sees nowadays. But I think that in these times that things will become much more brutal and nothing will be able to be done about it.

The question is really more now to me, about who these 37 people were.
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A skinhead studying at Moscow icon painting school ??
I can understand the sheer fustration and the hatred that drove him to commit these crimes, but ultimately such actions damage our cause - Nationalism = skinheads = violence/murder. If he'd gone after the policy makers that created the situation in the first place, I'd have more respect for him. These victms are innocent soft targets, mere symptoms rather than the cause of the problem.
Susie does has a point though. As the pressures of immigration and overpopulation increase and elected governments are seen as complicit , such murderous conflicts are unfortunately inevitable.
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It's frustration, my Scottish friend.
No excuse, my Canadian chumb. I get frustrated when my mother gives me peas instead of beans at dinner time, should I go hack her to death? Beat her to death with a hammer?
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Honestly? Most of the immigrants in Russia are those people who have been opccupied or continued to be occupied by Russia. If people really want to make a difference, I can think of better ideas than robbing a man of a life God gave him.
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Of course.. he had to plan where to bury the bodies - if even that. How do you think the rest died? Do you think they ritually innitiated some 15 year old boy, by making him cut the head of a living Chechnyan man? Wouldn't be the first time, it's also quite a Islamic ritual, no?
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People get scared? And? Why are people to blame for the thugs that control the streets?These thugs don't care who they attack, they'll attack men, women, chilldren, elderly men and women.In fact, you have no right to even make the above statement, that anyone is to blame other than the mindless animals who committed these acts of murder.
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I get frustrated when my mother gives me peas instead of beans at dinner time, should I go hack her to death?
Your poor interpretation of the variety of uses of the English language can only be put down to your inexperience. Maybe if I learned Gaelic and then expressed myself that way it would be easier for you. The frustration you describe is not the same as the frustration that I meant.

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Most of the immigrants in Russia are those people who have been opccupied or continued to be occupied by Russia. If people really want to make a difference, I can think of better ideas than robbing a man of a life God gave him.Of course.. he had to plan where to bury the bodies - if even that.
So any country that has once occupied land deserves every single immigrant from these lands? And here I thought you were a nationalist It doesn't make the immigration any better.

And not everyone deserves to live, not everything in life is sunshine and roses and the love of God.

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How do you think the rest died? Do you think they ritually innitiated some 15 year old boy, by making him cut the head of a living Chechnyan man? Wouldn't be the first time, it's also quite a Islamic ritual, no?People get scared? And?
Not necessarily an Islamic ritual in any case, unless you can find evidence stating that it was indeed first found in Islamic culture (beheading, that is).

In any case, it is irrelevent to the case at hand.

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Why are people to blame for the thugs that control the streets?These thugs don't care who they attack, they'll attack men, women, chilldren, elderly men and women.In fact, you have no right to even make the above statement, that anyone is to blame other than the mindless animals who committed these acts of murder.
People have to defend themselves or nothing will get better. Of course it's a lot easier to sit on one's arse and do nothing, but since you're on a moral highground, I'm surprised that you'd seem to chose that option. These thugs actually seem to care who they'd attack and they attacked a certain profile (immigrants). I'm sure if someone had done something (like someone reported them to the police, for example) then this killing spree could have been cut short. Unfortunately, people are lazy sheep.

Why do I have no right to make that statement?

An ounce of prevention beats a pound of the cure, any day.

Consider things on a higher level and maybe then you'll understand how it isn't only the men who did this who are, in some capacity, at fault (though obviously the men who did this are at fault for the murder, the ones who didn't stop it are at fault for being inhuman and not stopping a murder, instead watching until the person died).
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When I hear of such lowlife scum, I come to conclusion that death penalty is justified.
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