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The Scottish native population is declining at an alarming rate every year thousands of Scots leave Scotland Never to return to there homeland and never to see the shores of Scotland Again. Thousands of immigrants every year enter Scotland within 5 years the Ethnic Muslim population of Scotland more than doubled. Abortion is increasing and being promoted.

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Increase in abortions in Scotland

The number of abortions has hit an all-time high

The number of abortions carried out in Scotland is continuing to rise, according to official figures.

An all-time high of 13,081 pregnancies were terminated in 2006, compared with 12,603 the previous year.
The rate of abortions was highest among women aged between 16 and 19. The NHS Tayside area had the highest figures for those aged from 15 to 44.
Minister for Public Health Shona Robison said the rise, particularly for under 16s, was disappointing.
The Scottish health statistics showed the level of abortions among those aged under 16 also reached a record high of 362 in 2006.
The figure was 341 the year before and 309 in 2004.
Lower rates
The statistics showed that for women aged between 16 and 19, 24.1 per 1,000 had abortions.
For those aged between 20 and 24 the rate was just slightly lower at 23.6 per 1,000.
Lower rates were seen in those aged between 25 and 29 with 15.8 terminations per 1,000 and in women aged over 40 with 2.1 per 1,000.
In NHS Tayside, the rate was 15.7 abortions per 1,000 women.
In Lothian and Greater Glasgow the rate for the same group of was 13.9 per 1,000.
The Scottish government is committed to improving Scotland's sexual health and reducing the number of unintended pregnancies


Shona Robison
Minister for public health


The health boards of Orkney, Shetland and Western Isles have the lowest rates at 6.1 per 1,000 women, while Argyll and Clyde has a rate of 8.4 per 1,000 women.
Ms Robison said: "The Scottish government is committed to improving Scotland's sexual health and reducing the number of unintended pregnancies through Respect and Responsibility, the national sexual health strategy."
The Scottish Executive has provided more than £600,000 in funding over the next two years for a programme for secondary teachers providing sex education.
The amount of early abortion procedures has been relatively stable over the last five years with 67.3% of all terminations performed at less than 10 weeks in 2006.
'Deadly social experiment'
The use of medical methods of abortion, which involves termination of a pregnancy without a surgical procedure, continues to increase, with 59.1% carried out last year, compared with 16.4% when they were first introduced in 1992.
A spokesman for the Catholic Church in Scotland said: "Abortion is anti-child, anti-women and anti-person. "There must be a return to personal social responsibility regarding sexual practice and care for our own offspring."

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Sorry but that looks more like a baby and not an aborted fetus.

An aborted fetus usually is put through some sort of shredding machine, I gues it depends ont he method, but they don't just pop it out and thorw it in a bucket.
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Sorry but that looks more like a baby and not an aborted fetus.

An aborted fetus usually is put through some sort of shredding machine, I gues it depends ont he method, but they don't just pop it out and thorw it in a bucket.
They do. Many have been found in the rubbish bins of the backdoors of the clinics, literally dismembered.
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Thanks Menydh for educating and reminding others of the true horrors of Abortion. In the west and in the media Abortion is pomoted in school and abouts for literatly millions of childrens deaths in Europe nearly all being of European descent. In the west and in western media were not showen just what happens in an abortion or even showen the pictures.

Not all babies look like embryos and not all babies that are aborted are ripped apart theres a number of procedures that dcoters use to kill children in the womb.

The Pictures below are real life pictures of abortion.



This is not a broken doll. This little boy was one of several third trimester BABIES found in medical waste bags outside a legal abortion center in Houston, Texas, in late 1986. He was 14 inches long, weighed 2 pounds 2 ounces, and was 30 weeks gestation....... 7 MONTHS OLD......when he was killed. Other Abortion pictures of murdered healthy babies
This is a precious 4 1/2 month old little girl, burned by saline solution a "doctor" used to abort her. There are 4000 babies aborted each day in America (one every 20 seconds). Abortion is legal through all nine months of pregnancy.





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4 1/2 month old FETUS. not girl. Ffs.

Maybe this is practice in places where cost-cutting is key but from what I was taught and from what I understand, it would be considered a biohazard and would have to be disposed of properly.

edit: By the by it would be illegal to kill a baby once it's come to term, that would be euthanasia ^^. Anyways, you have your laws mixed up I think, mate </end edit>

Do you people not understand the situations that lead to abortion???

Oh of course, you can't get pregnant so it's IMPOSSIBLE for you to understand. >: (
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4 1/2 month old FETUS. not girl. Ffs.

Maybe this is practice in places where cost-cutting is key but from what I was taught and from what I understand, it would be considered a biohazard and would have to be disposed of properly.

edit: By the by it would be illegal to kill a baby once it's come to term, that would be euthanasia ^^. Anyways, you have your laws mixed up I think, mate </end edit>

Do you people not understand the situations that lead to abortion???

Oh of course, you can't get pregnant so it's IMPOSSIBLE for you to understand. >: (
Justifying murder again? What a shame. There is no difference "fetus", "girl", "choice", "death" those are just semantics trying to get around reality. The widespread of abortion around the world just shows how the mass is really soulless and frivolous to the extent of murdering their own sons once their comfort feels threatened.
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Justifying murder???

I guess I've murdered loads of children then, being on birth control. Then again, I'm obviously a heartless bitch who hates children anyways, so what does it matter?

You don't f***ing understand it. That's your problem. You just think a girl can go off and skip around any time she wants and get an abortion. She can't. And if she was going to get an abortion, why would she wait until the third trimester (when it is much more likely she can DIE from the procedure)? Sometimes it boggles the mind!

Why would a girl get an abortion? Well, firstly, if she was going to die having the child and the child was likely to die anyways (saving a life), if she was raped and was going to have the rapist's child, if she was like 12 or 13 it's also reasonable, and also, maybe more controversially, i think if it has been proven that the upcoming child will have a disabling mental disorder such as Down's Syndrome.

Maybe you don't understand that being pregnant isn't just a physical state but a mental state and it can be cripplingly harmful for the woman, especially in the aforementioned rapist's case. But of course, women who are raped are just asking for it, right?
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Justifying murder???
Yes. Play with words all you want.

What it comes down to is that you believe a women has a right to murder an unborn child, simply because she is a female.

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I guess I've murdered loads of children then, being on birth control.
No, but you have activley worked against nature and Gods will.

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Then again, I'm obviously a heartless bitch who hates children anyways, so what does it matter?
Pretty much.

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You don't f***ing understand it.
Of course not, we're all uninformed ignorant males.

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That's your problem.
Our problem is people who support child murder.

So English of you.

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You just think a girl can go off and skip around any time she wants and get an abortion.
Abortion centres are like McDonalds.

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She can't.
She can.

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And if she was going to get an abortion, why would she wait until the third trimester (when it is much more likely she can DIE from the procedure)? Sometimes it boggles the mind!
Who really knows what goes on in the mind of a murderer?

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Why would a girl get an abortion?
She has no sense of morality?

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Well, firstly, if she was going to die having the child and the child was likely to die anyways (saving a life),
There are procedures of enduced early-birth if their is a risk to the mothers health, and instead of out-right abortion, their can be a chance to save the mothers and the babies lifes.

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if she was raped and was going to have the rapist's child,
Someone smashed my window a week ago, do I have the right to go and smash yours because someone smashed mine?

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if she was like 12 or 13 it's also reasonable,
Not really. I believe females have reached maurity at this age, and can carry a child to term.

Though we must ask what is happening to society when 12-13 year old girls are getting pregnant.

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and also, maybe more controversially, i think if it has been proven that the upcoming child will have a disabling mental disorder such as Down's Syndrome.
I know people with Down's Syndrome hen, and they are some of the most wonderful people I have ever been privilaged to meet.

Though of course, they don't deserve life do they?

erhaps I should go and vist them tonight? "Deal with them"?

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Maybe you don't understand that being pregnant isn't just a physical state but a mental state and it can be cripplingly harmful for the woman, especially in the aforementioned rapist's case. But of course, women who are raped are just asking for it, right?
'course they are.
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What it comes down to is that you believe a women has a right to murder an unborn child, simply because she is a female.
A man can't murder an unborn child because he can't carry one, but I'd be scared shitless if men could get pregnant. There'd be "dead children" lining the streets.

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Of course not, we're all uninformed ignorant males.
I don't know a lot of things about what it is to be male, like peeing standing up, having my competence already assumed to be there, etc.

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Our problem is people who support child murder.

So English of you.
Always with the hatred. Why don't you find a new record, yours is scratched.

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Abortion centres are like McDonalds.
And you would know, having been there so many times?

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Someone smashed my window a week ago, do I have the right to go and smash yours because someone smashed mine?
Have you ever been raped? Do you know what it feels like? Do you know what it would feel like for it to be possible that you're pregnant with your rapist's child?

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Not really. I believe females have reached maurity at this age, and can carry a child to term.
Aside from the social stigma and extreme depression that carrying an unwanted baby can cause, it's brilliant!

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Though we must ask what is happening to society when 12-13 year old girls are getting pregnant.
Rape? Who knows.



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I know people with Down's Syndrome hen, and they are some of the most wonderful people I have ever been privilaged to meet.

Though of course, they don't deserve life do they?

erhaps I should go and vist them tonight? "Deal with them"?
My aunt has Down's Syndrome and she suffers. I would not want my child to live a life of suffering. So f*** off because you haven't lived with knowing it since you were born.

There is a difference between a fetus and a child.


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A man can't murder an unborn child because he can't carry one, but I'd be scared shitless if men could get pregnant. There'd be "dead children" lining the streets.
A man could easily murder an unborn child.

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We're not all Christians. I don't believe in your God. I believe in my own. I respect your religion now respect mine.
My God believes in you, your disbelief doesn't change that.

Now i'm not going to pussy foot around the issue. Your religion is wrong, your faith is wrong. I'm not going to "respect" lies and fallacy.

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Taking a pee standing up is very fun.

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Always with the hatred. Why don't you find a new record, yours is scratched.
Always with the peace and love with you hippy, new-age, modernist, feminist, Anglo-colonials. No wonder you're the bane of the bloody world.

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And you would know, having been there so many times?
McDonalds or the Abortion Clinic?

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Have you ever been raped?
Yes.

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Do you know what it feels like?
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Do you know what it would feel like for it to be possible that you're pregnant with your rapist's child?
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Aside from the social stigma and extreme depression that carrying an unwanted baby can cause, it's brilliant!
Perhaps mothers should do more to stop their chilldren going out and sleeping with ever tom, dick and harry?

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Rape? Who knows.
Yes, because the vast majority of instances of pregnancy amongst girls around the ages of 12-13 is due to rape.

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My aunt has Down's Syndrome and she suffers. I would not want my child to live a life of suffering. So f*** off because you haven't lived with knowing it since you were born.
So your aunts case reperesents the entire community of the worlds Down's Syndromed people?

How do you know it is the actual Down's Syndrome that causes sufferance? Perhaps she suffers because people like you cannot except her because of this disorder?

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There is a difference between a fetus and a child.
There isn't.

But either way you spin it, you'd kill it.

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Grow up.
Perhaps I should start using "[sarcasm][/sarcasm]"?
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If people had less sex out of serious (marital) relationships, and more sex in marriage - or the other way around to marriage, there wouldnt be a need to murder fetuses. I think its irresponsible in any case to get an abortion, even if you cant take care of the baby, they very least you can do is give birth to it, and give it to someone responsible enough to do so. And I dont care about the emotions of some girl, then. In times where abortion was almost unheard of, we did alright. We could do without it today, too, unless there is some exclusive reasoning for it (like: the baby is going to be handicapped or retarded in some way, so it wouldnt have a life worth living).
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4 1/2 month old FETUS. not girl. Ffs.

Maybe this is practice in places where cost-cutting is key but from what I was taught and from what I understand, it would be considered a biohazard and would have to be disposed of properly.

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Do you people not understand the situations that lead to abortion???

Oh of course, you can't get pregnant so it's IMPOSSIBLE for you to understand. >: (
Summary of legal grounds and time limits for abortion as laid out in the 1967 Abortion Act

Up to 24 weeks two doctors must decide that the risk to a woman’s physical or mental health or the risk to her child(ren)’s physical or mental health will be greater if she continues with the pregnancy than if she ends it.
There is no time limit on abortion where two doctors agree that a woman’s health or life is gravely threatened by continuing with the pregnancy or that the fetus is likely to be born with severe physical or mental abnormalities.
In the event that an abortion must be performed as a matter of medical emergency a second doctor’s agreement does not need to be sought.

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Providing that two doctors confirm that her need for an abortion fits the legal criteria, a woman does not need the consent of her own doctor, her partner or her family to have an abortion.
Women under 16 can have an abortion, without parental consent in some circumstances.


Susi I don’t quite understand what you mean by comes to term? usual abortions take place within 12-13 weeks within these weeks what looks like an embryo turns into a baby with hands and feet and a brain. Abortions can be at anytime. The above information if on UK law and abortion this doesn’t take into account the even more so liberal laws in much of Europe and the world.

My cozen was born disabled and he lived a happy life he died young but his time with his family and friends and the impact he had and the money he was able to gather through charity for disabled people was immense. Before you start looking for a sad stories everyone has many and while it is terrible you auntie was born with Down's Syndrome you cant persecute and you this and immature girls getting pregnant to condone millions or even the thousands of abortions that take place in the UK alone. Most abortions 9/10 abortion procedures are given by consenting adults 18 and above not children. The case for abortion and children being born with physical and mental disabilities is very rare and used as an excuse by pro abortionists and women like your self who aren’t knowledgeable or maybe don’t have a conscience and see the killing of babies acceptable.

You don’t have to be a Christian or follow any religion you just have to be knowledgeable enough on the subject and have a conscience to see abortion is wrong. For you Susi 700 Portuguese doctors women and male signed an anti abortion petition. I can show petitions from around the word with such numbers and even greater numbers.
700 Portuguese Doctors Sign Petition Urging Medical Association to Continue Opposing Abortion

A video for you Susi YouTube - anti abortion vid I can only hope to change your mind. Take care Susi

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4 1/2 month old FETUS. not girl.
A human, nevertheless.
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