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Once more serbs shove they culture. Croatia didnt recognize Kosovo, our prime minister and president said that we will act very carefuly and that we understand Serbia bad situation, and in return those monkeys burn our embassy, i wonder what will happend when we recognize them.

Alslo yesterday serbian flag was burn in Zagreb, so if serbs continue with anti-croatian acts its possible that our hooligans will act similar, burning everything what is serbian, and in that case both minorities will suffer, our in Vojvodina, your in Slavonia
Hardly. At a conference of Central European countries your President Mesic said that it would be best if Kosovo obtained independence. Second, all signs point that your country intends to recognize it. Especially since Croatia has said they will follow the EU and the majority of EU members intend to recognize Kosovo.

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We Croats don't exactly appreciate when someone burns our national flag. For me, that's reason enough to say "to hell with Serbs and their Kosovo"..

As Rex Chroatorum already mentioned, it didn't take long for Croats to burn the Serbian flag. Perhaps it's too difficult to understand for you, but that's how things work here.
I seriosuly doubt that any Serb cares that Croatians are burning our flag.
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The UNSC should be condeming the Albanian actions in direct violation of resolution 1244 and not debating this.

The U.S. is being hypocritical in asking Serbia to protect it's embassies. The U.S. embassy security is headed by Dyncorp, a private military contractor that assisted the U.S. in Kosovo. If anyone should be protecting the U.S. embassies those mercenary scum should.

Also. I find it ironic how the U.S. is calling for it's embassy in Beograd to be protected while in 1999 they bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.

I also find it ironic, hypocritical and insulting that they wont Serbia to apologize. They refused to appologize for bombing the Chinese embassy in 1999.
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Koštunica: Youth show they want justice 22 February 2008
Prime Minister Vojislav Koštunica has today commented yesterday's mass rally in Belgrade.

Some 250,000 Serbians gathered to peacefully protest and reject Kosovo Albanians' unilateral declaration of secession, but small groups caused riots in other parts of the town later.

Koštunica said today that the people, especially the young, have send out a message from the rally that they want law, justice and freedom.

"The people of Serbia have, in this magnificent gathering and prayer, said what they think about Kosovo and Metohija, and about the brutal violence that Serbia is subjected to."

"Above all, the youth of Serbia have sent out a message that they want law, justice and freedom, and that they reject the western policy of force," Koštunica said in his statement Friday.

According to him, Serbia, at this point, with its defense of Kosovo, demonstrates that it also defends the highest values that the democratic world is based upon.

"And that means, Kosovo is Serbia," Koštunica repeated the slogan popular in the country.

The statement also said that, "unfortunately, great tragedy also occurred yesterday, a human life was lost".

"We must do all in our power to make our opposition to the force work in the interest of Serbia, and in the interest of our southern province. Violence and destruction are damaging our struggle to preserves our state and national interests."

"All those who advocate the false state of Kosovo are happy to see violence in the streets of Belgrade," the prime minister concluded.
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That's a body blow to American culture and civilisation.
An even bigger blow. Serbian state tv has stopped broadcasting American movies and series.

National television program censored due to Kosovo situation

RTS without American films and series

Author: A.Novakovic | 22.02.2008 - 00:46




After America officially supported Kosovo independence on Monday, American films and TV series on RTS have been replaced with Russian films and domestic TV series taken out of mothballs. However, Aleksandar Tijanic, the national TV director, denies any censure, claiming that all films and series have been stopped because of a large number of special TV shows dedicated to Kosovo and that in the following days the program will be normalized.

“There is no censure on RTS! It is not true that we only stopped American films and series, we stopped all, due to showing of special editions of the programs dedicated to Kosovo situation. I don’t know if you have heard that one part of Serbia proclaimed its independence and in such circumstances we cannot broadcast normal program. Take French or British television as an example. If a part of their territory proclaimed independence, they would not have a regular program,” Aleksandar Tijanic said for “Blic”.

However, Aleksandar Tijanic’s words are contrary to the facts-RTS continues showing films and TV series, but “accidentally” there are no American ones.
On Tuesday, instead of Canadian TV series “Degrassi”, RTS1 broadcast domestic TV series “Stizu dolari”, while popular TV series “CSI: Miami” was replaced with series “Kraljevina Srba”, while previously announced American film was replaced with the Russian TV series. On Wednesday, RTS2 broadcast “Verski calendar” instead of American TV series “Living with Fran”. In the premier and re-run term of “CSI Miami”, RTS1 broadcast domestic films “Gde cveta limun zut“ and “Glava secera“...
Cosidering the fact that Tijanic pointed several times that they stopped all films and TV series, we were interested to know why they broadcast Russian and domestic TV series.
“Because they are short and they fit in our concept of the program,” RTS director answered.
By way of illustration, an episode of “Degrassi” TV series lasts 35 minutes, while an episode replacing it (“Stizu dolari”) lasts 55 minutes. One episode of “CSI:Miami” lasts on average 45 minutes, while its replacements “Glava secera“ and “Gde cveta limun zut“ last 62 and 95 minutes respectively...
“That is not true that we have stopped broadcasting American films and TV series on RTS! Just to remind the readers, the whole program concept of RTS has been adapted to the events related to unilateral proclamation of Kosovo independence in the last couple of days. In such situation it is very difficult to plan the TV program,” said Ivan Karl, editor-in-chief of RTS film program, adding:
“We think that it is extremely inconvenient for our spectators to change the broadcasting terms of exclusive TV series such as “CSI:Miami”. It has been showing for months at 23 in the evening and 12.45 in the afternoon. This week it has been impossible to fit it in the program. As soon as the program concept comes back to the normal, and it will be soon, we will continue showing “CSI:Miami” in the regular terms.”
Ivan Karl added that the night between Sunday and Monday will be reserved for broadcasting the Oscar ceremony.
The series of films titled “U susret Oskaru” started on Monday. All films have been shown, except for “The English Patient”, because of Vojislav Seselj’s trial.. All other films that have been announced will be broadcast in the scheduled terms on Friday and during the weekend,” Karl concluded.
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My total support to Serbia, a martyr of the international mafia, I am not anti-american, but the american foreign politics against serbs is horrible and it´s destroying one of the best countries of Europe. I have in my screen the orthodox cathedral in Belgrade for a symbol of respect and admiration to Serbia, and I ask for, not come in EU and fight against the injustice.

KOSOVO IS SERBIA!!!
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An even bigger blow. Serbian state tv has stopped broadcasting American movies and series.
Haha, yep. Now we can truly see why those Hollywood cunts like Sharon Stone and George Clooney "supported" Serbia. First, Kustrica and Mikhalkov symbolically buried "Die hard 4", and now American trash culture is definitely buried in Serbia. Way to go!!!
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I seriosuly doubt that any Serb cares that Croatians are burning our flag.
I bet you don't.
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I bet you don't.
I don't really care. The burning of flags isn't a shock at nationalist protests. I'd be more concerned if a Serb was burning the Serbian flag.
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Hardly. At a conference of Central European countries your President Mesic said that it would be best if Kosovo obtained independence. Second, all signs point that your country intends to recognize it. Especially since Croatia has said they will follow the EU and the majority of EU members intend to recognize Kosovo.
Mesić is not my president, to begin with. I consider him "mine" as much as you consider Čeda Jovanović "yours". Secondly, yes, I know that this creature Mesić has repeatedly voiced his support for the independence of Kosovo. And I always thought it was deeply wrong, because it is none of our business. The late president of Croatia Franjo Tuđman (in fact, the only true President of Croatia so far, because I don't count the bearded creature you mentioned) always refused to meddle with the Kosovo issue for two reasons: 1) he din't want to interfere into the interior business of the neighbouring state; 2) he saw the far-reaching consequences of the breach of the international law done by infringing on a country's sovereignity in the name of "higher principles" (a dangerous precedent which in the future could be used against any other country).

And one more thing: if Mesić supports Kosovo's independence, it is not because he would be pursuing some autonomous Croatian policy, in the Croatian interest, but because it was ordered to him by the world's centers of power to do so. "Our" government are puppets, like many other European governments (Serbia not excepted in this regard). Somebody cynically remarked that Mesić seems to care more for the Kosovo's independence than for the Bosnian Croats. So he is not pro-Croatian in any meaningful sense of word.
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We Croats don't exactly appreciate when someone burns our national flag. For me, that's reason enough to say "to hell with Serbs and their Kosovo"..

As Rex Chroatorum already mentioned, it didn't take long for Croats to burn the Serbian flag. Perhaps it's too difficult to understand for you, but that's how things work here.
oops, they might have burned ours too ... italian reporters were given a bad treatment too.

Are you so happy with the idea of state of moslem qaedists and drug traffickers just behind your shoulders?

For sure my words could be valid for teh Serbs too.

What is happening is a monstrosity so big that they could forget their rivalry with your country, at least for a moment, concentrating on the albanian question, which is of the utmost importance for any decent european.
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oops, they might have burned ours too ... italian reporters were given a bad treatment too.
I guess when someone burns your flag day after day after day for five long years can really piss you off, wouldn't you say?

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Sure. They didn't forget about the "rivalry" when they burned my flag.
Unlike some other nations, Croats consider their national flag to be more than a mere piece of textile that can be destroyed by others as a sign of "protest".
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Here we're again, the u$ans succeded again in dividing europeans and installing a new moslem state in the balkans with a big american military base embebbed (Camp Bondsteel)...
Next step is to fuel albanian separtisim in Macedonia and trying to get access in NATO fro Ukraina...
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Here we're again, the u$ans succeded again in dividing europeans and installing a new moslem state...
I suppose this applies to me? Don't get me wrong, I despise the American imperialism and their way of life as a whole, but I'm also disgusted with actions of moronic people who burn foreign flags as a sign of "protest". It just tells a lot about their culture.

I'm also astonished by people who say: "it's OK for them to burn my nation's flag because my government is idiotic etc".
No, it's not OK. The flag does not represent politicians. It represents people, history and culture. No one should take his national flag for granted.
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No, it's not OK. The flag does not represent politicians. It represents people, history and culture. No one should take his national flag for granted.
In my country it represents only Republic Slovenia and a history less than 2 decades since we're independant.
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