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The PNR - Partido Nacional Renovador (National Renovator Party) has made the most daring move since the 1974 leftist coup d'êtat. Something rather normal in French Le Pen's FN propaganda is highly dangerous in a strongly liberal freemasonry-socialist-dominated country. The words Freedom, Democracy are constantly repeated. But here you are free to think as a Democrat only. PNR, a political party based on the French FN has very little support in Portugal, due to very restrictive state policies concerning far-right parties.

The centre of all attentions this week was this placard:


Enough of immigration
Nationalism is the solution

Have(plural) a nice trip
PORTUGAL TO THE PORTUGUESE Goal 2009 (legislative elections)
In a while, leftist politicians urged to condemn the bill, naming it racist, xenophobic, hate-inciting. The parliament approved a unanimous condemnation. Lawyers are going crazy, looking for constitutional infringements. The Public Prosecution spent one entire day analyzing the case, but the Attorney General finally announced with dismay that nothing could be done.

The advertisement was soon defaced and, in an astonishing provocative move, the most famous humourists of these sad Portuguese days ("Gato Fedorento") placed side by side a bigger bill, grossly attacking the Nationalists:



The stupid idiocy goes like this:
More immigration!
The best way to annoy foreigners
is forcing them to live in Portugall
Welcome! (plural)
WITH PORTUGUESE WE CAN'T MAKE IT Nationalism is crap
Let alone say that this quartet which our youth venerates so much is known to be very kindred with far left politics, despite being momma babies. Nonetheless and curiously I happen to know both the man in the Nationalist placard and the quartet-of-idiots. The former is a humble worker, and has contributed with a hard effort to this bill. The latter goofs are revolutionary rebel yuppies who never worked for real and spend the days drinking beers in a pavement café for the burgeoisie not very far from my apartment; there you can see famous soccer players, VIP's, in-crowd people, etc... doing nothing.

P.S.: Needless to say that you can notice property damage in the PNR placard. The placard is huge and pretty elevated, it would be impossible to blot it without ladders. By the way, this place is always crowded with vehicles 24 hours a day and there's a police station 20 metres away... I wonder if it was not PNR's advertisement, by this time, people would have been arrested on account of defacement. Democracy.
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What;s their stance on the Braziliazation of Portugal?
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What;s their stance on the Braziliazation of Portugal?
PNR? they are against it, like anyone with some minimal nationalistic view. Well... Portugal is still a bit far from being Brazil If France turns Islamic, by that time we will have a whole South America in Iberian Peninsula with Brazil in Portugal and Colombia in Spain
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I was a fan of the PNR until I found out that they supported Mario Machado and the Frente Nacional. Influencial parties like the PNR need to be distancing themselves from this White Nationalism stupidity as much as possible so that the impressionable masses don't fall into similar false ideologies.

But I read about this leftist sign being placed beside a vandalized PNR sign - it is disgusting, indeed, but hardly an unfamiliar tactic when it comes to Liberals.
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I was a fan of the PNR until I found out that they supported Mario Machado and the Frente Nacional. Influencial parties like the PNR need to be distancing themselves from this White Nationalism stupidity as much as possible so that the impressionable masses don't fall into similar false ideologies.
PNR never wanted to let skins and kindreds enter the party. The problem is that PNR was too weak and scarce in members... and bad options were made. Doors were open to skins, WP's and akin. But things never worked very well like this. PNR was never an extremist party, and so the WP's and skins formed the Frente Nacional so they might raise right arms and so.

The Frente Nacional problem is that they will never be let to turn into a party, hence they need PNR. I guess since the Mário Machado incident, PNR closed doors pretty much to FN. PNR and FN don't coëxist very well lately. FN is very marginal these days and PNR aims to leave good impressions in people. And I think the essential from their message will pass no matter Democracy tries to obliterate them. The attempts to censor their advertisement will only result in positive rebound.
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But I read about this leftist sign being placed beside a vandalized PNR sign - it is disgusting, indeed, but hardly an unfamiliar tactic when it comes to Liberals.


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The advertisement was soon defaced and, in an astonishing provocative move, the most famous humourists of these sad Portuguese days ("Gato Fedorento") placed side by side a bigger bill, grossly attacking the Nationalists:



The stupid idiocy goes like this:
More immigration!
The best way to annoy foreigners
is forcing them to live in Portugall
Welcome! (plural)
WITH PORTUGUESE WE CAN'T MAKE IT Nationalism is crap
That is a really weak parody. Its message is so unclear that I could read it as being pro or anti-immigration. I really don't like childish political humour. Jokes about politics have to have a stinger in the tail to be any good.
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My only concern is the simple above the initials PNR looks to much like muslim symbols I've seen.
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My only concern is the simple above the initials PNR looks to much like muslim symbols I've seen.
lol! don't worry.

The upper part is an imitation of the Flame of the Fatherland, the blue flame of the Front National as you can see here: FRONT NATIONAL : FEDERATION FN DE LA MARNE : Archives. This one based in the Blue Flame Sword of Saint Michael.

The lower part is a pyre with a discrete runic design
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Where do the immigrants to Portugal mostly come from?
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Where do the immigrants to Portugal mostly come from?
Brasil (economical favoured by linguistic reasons) and Eastern Europe I believe.
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Where do the immigrants to Portugal mostly come from?


As you can guess, these 449.194 account for the legalized immigrants by 2004. The European immigrants are generally good people, with legalized status, and are popularly well accepted. These numbers don't encompass Africans from former colonies... with full Portuguese Citizenship. Those are regarded as nationals by the Democracy and their numbers can only be guessed, furthermore our country does not allow racial statistics. Some hundreds of thousands.
The number of illegal Brazilians and Africans is thought to be circa 400.000.

The total numbers for african and mestizo people (with all kinds of status) nowadays may easily exceed 1 million, more than 10% of our country's population.
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