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Whaty about the one that the life of an irish women is just praying to god, giving birth and getting beaten by her drunken husband.
That might have come from the "Family Guy" cartoon which is made by a Jew, David Zuckerman and a culturally mutated "Irish"-American named Seth MacFarlane. That stereotype is the same one Jews have for all of us Goys.
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That might have come from the "Family Guy" cartoon which is made by a Jew, David Zuckerman and a culturally mutated "Irish"-American named Seth MacFarlane. That stereotype is the same one Jews have for all of us Goys.
I haven't seen that episode. But I've heard of that stereotype before.
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Whaty about the one that the life of an irish women is just praying to god, giving birth and getting beaten by her drunken husband.
1) praying to God and giving birth: they are strongly catholic so their protestant neighbour despise their faith and their obedience to the Cuirch dictates about contraception. This creates a stereotypes when actually it is a legitimate cultural habit. 2) getting beaten by a drunken husband: this is due to the abuse of alchool that was induced by poverty and economical exploitation due to their being colonized by a foreign power. Colonization firstly hits male egos, the most frail ones crumble.
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This is a typical liberal mindset. We are part of an ethnic group and we also are judged by its average standards, as long as we are not unique geniouses. Ethnic groups can be an asset or a problem according to the average behavior of their membres. Africans in Europe are not only a problem since they are colonizing our land but also because their average intelligence is far below the level of the european one, because they have no working ethics and no capability of exercise self - restraint while working to achieve goal that appear far in time to reach: so large numbers of them are likely to be unassimilable. This causes the problems we see in France. Korean immigrants never cause troubles wherever they go, for example. They have an average intelligence just like the europeans, they have a culture that stress hard work and discipline: in a word they are the opposite of the africans who have no sense of self-enterpeneurship, discipline and lack of the necessary intelligence to deal with the more complex tasks the whites ane eastern asians are required to perform better at. Social problems or harmony are not caused by individuals but by the average behavior and performance of masses.
You have a point. But I womder what causes mass behavior. The culture itself or the way people treat it? Not that what they did was right or excusable because it was not. The problem is when you get a marginalized, unassimilated community of immigrants your going to have higher crime rates.
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You have a point. But I womder what causes mass behavior. The culture itself or the way people treat it? Not that what they did was right or excusable because it was not. The problem is when you get a marginalized, unassimilated community of immigrants your going to have higher crime rates.
This is a very good way to see people when they are still children. It is right for women to see the potential for good even in the worst behaved child. However this is a very bad idea when applied to the world of of immigration policy and policing. When dealing with adult immigrants it is necessary to be far more hard-headed.
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Well, the first thing is the deportation of these people, and later, we will speak, but this is very worrying.
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There seems to be such an air of defeatism and apathy here in the West.These people are allowed to behave like animals and very little is being done to stop them.
If foreigners behaved the same way in a Muslim country they would certainly be beaten and most probably lynched.
We've been lulled into pretending that everything is for the best in this shiny bright multicultural new world .I hope that dozy, tolerant Britain will wake up soon - we need an extreme response to this multicultural mess , and quickly because the alternative is just too bleak to contemplate.
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The European faith in governments and institutions becomes a severe handicap when the wrong people are in leadership positions. People say to themselves “well I don’t like having all these African immigrants committing crimes but if the media and politicians say it is a good idea so I should be a good citizen and trust their judgment”. By contrast, in Arab countries they say “the police and government are corrupt, if we don’t kill these rapists ourselves there will be no justice.” The Arabs cannot seem to work well as nations but they can take care of themselves at the level of the family and clan. European nations can work well as a large team but can be marched off a cliff if the leadership is bad. I believe Europe can get back on track when the 68ers and there ideas are replaced with sane policies of self-preservation.
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The European faith in governments and institutions becomes a severe handicap when the wrong people are in leadership positions. People say to themselves “well I don’t like having all these African immigrants committing crimes but if the media and politicians say it is a good idea so I should be a good citizen and trust their judgment”. By contrast, in Arab countries they say “the police and government are corrupt, if we don’t kill these rapists ourselves there will be no justice.” The Arabs cannot seem to work well as nations but they can take care of themselves at the level of the family and clan. European nations can work well as a large team but can be marched off a cliff if the leadership is bad. I believe Europe can get back on track when the 68ers and there ideas are replaced with sane policies of self-preservation.
Correct. It seems Europeans became too "spoiled" by their governments which are supposed to take care of everything, so people lost even the normal moral impulse to defend , say, a victim of rape. Someone else (the state, the police) should take care of that.

That is deeply immoral and it isn't a sign of civilization, it is a sign of decay.
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Correct. It seems Europeans became too "spoiled" by their governments which are supposed to take care of everything, so people lost even the normal moral impulse to defend , say, a victim of rape. Someone else (the state, the police) should take care of that.

That is deeply immoral and it isn't a sign of civilization, it is a sign of decay.
The good news is that it is easier to solve the current European problem of bad leadership at the top than it is for Arab countries to learn to work as a team.
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The good news is that it is easier to solve the current European problem of bad leadership at the top than it is for Arab countries to learn to work as a team.
Please, elaborate, I didn't understand what you wanted to say.
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Please, elaborate, I didn't understand what you wanted to say.
I was meaning that the nations of Europe are still much healthier than the nations of the Arab world. If we are able to replace the current leadership in Europe with politicians and academics that are not afraid to be pro-family and pro-nationalist then Europe can thrive again. The Arab countries on the other hand have deep cultural and social problems which will hold them back for as long as I can predict.
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I was meaning that the nations of Europe are still much healthier than the nations of the Arab world. If we are able to replace the current leadership in Europe with politicians and academics that are not afraid to be pro-family and pro-nationalist then Europe can thrive again. The Arab countries on the other hand have deep cultural and social problems which will hold them back for as long as I can predict.
I am not so optimistic. The current ruling elites are extremely corrupt and are partisans of a very unhealthy ideology (one-worldism-freemasonry), there should be a general clean-up, maybe by means of nationalist revolutions.

(Don't get me wrong, I don't advocate Stalinist-style purges and executions.)

As for Arab countries, I wouldn't comment on that, it is up to them to solve their problems, if they want to adn/or are able to.
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I am not so optimistic. The current ruling elites are extremely corrupt and are partisans of a very unhealthy ideology (one-worldism-freemasonry), there should be a general clean-up, maybe by means of nationalist revolutions.

(Don't get me wrong, I don't advocate Stalinist-style purges and executions.)

As for Arab countries, I wouldn't comment on that, it is up to them to solve their problems, if they want to adn/or are able to.
It is true that it is not going to be easy. The good news is that we are the future whether the 68ers like it or not.
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I believe you are both right, but I question if European apathy and tolerance of non-European immigrants and their crimes can be traced to the increase in Atheism and, by extension, individualism.

There was a time when the European nation was viewed as a collective - a religious family. A time when people largely cared about what happened to their Christian kin, and were not so selfish as to subscribe to a doctrine of individuality which, in my opinion, goes hand-in-hand with Atheism.

Now, providing each person is comfortable and provided with all the material luxuries they want, people are generally indifferent about what terrible fates befall their countrymen. The only sense of brotherhood and nationhood that exists any more is at sports events...
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Coming back to the christendom, it´s so difficult that it seems impossible with the help of God.
The first thing would be the removal of all foreign criminals and later, laws for making an immigrant more difficult, they have to pay more taxes for the use of welfare state, they have to pay taxes for the money that give to theior countries, and of course, a businessman have to pay more wage to a foreign man that a national man, with this, the immigration won´t be cheap and of course the immigrants would have be obliged to come back to their country.
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