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German Population Plunge “Irreversible,” Federal Stats Office Admits
Expected that one third of all European children will be born to Muslim families by 2025

By Gudrun Schultz

BERLIN, Germany, November 9, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Germany’s downward spiral in population is no longer reversible, the country’s federal statistics office said Tuesday. The birthrate has dropped so low that immigration numbers cannot compensate.
“The fall in the population can no longer be stopped,” vice-president Walter Rademacher with the Federal Statistics Office said, reported Agence France-Presse.
Germany has the lowest birthrate in Europe, with an average of 1.36 children per woman. Despite government incentives to encourage larger families, the population is dropping rapidly and that trend will continue, with an expected loss of as much as 12 million by 2050. That would mean about a 15 percent drop from the country’s current population of 82.4 million, the German news source Deutsche Welle reported today.
The low birthrate will cause the German population to age dramatically over the next 40 years--last year there were 144,000 more deaths than births, and that number could increase to 600,000 by 2050, the FSO forecast stated.
With a 22 percent reduction in the workforce and increasing costs for senior assistance and medical care, the drop in population is expected to have a radical impact on the nation’s economy, along with the welfare budget.
“I wouldn’t like to use the word ‘bankrupt’ because it’s a major challenge for the social insurance systems, that’s for certain,” Radermacher said in an interview with DW-Radio. “But the first thing is to reform the social insurance systems…We can learn from other countries…In every case, you need someone who has to work and give you some earnings.”
“The projections tell us the development of demographic trends will be even more dramatic in the eastern part of Germany,” Radermacher said . “This is because of the fertility rates in the eastern part of Germany, because of internal migration with the borders of Germany and many other demographic factors.”
While immigrants are increasingly relied upon to compensate for low birth rates in European countries, Radermacher said even factoring in a projected annual influx of 100,000-200,000 migrants won’t prevent the population plunge.
“Even those people who are immigrants adopt after a couple years the lifestyle and the number of children per family. So the assumption that immigrants will stick to their habits is simply not true.”
Germany has one of the largest populations of Muslim immigrants in Western Europe, with a Muslim community of over 3 million. That trend is expected to continue, leading some demographic trend-watchers to warn that the country is well on the way to becoming a Muslim state by 2050, Deutsche Welle reported.
The Brussels Journal reported last month that one third of all European children will be born to Muslim families by 2025. There are an estimated 50 million Muslims living in Europe today--that number is expected to double over the next twenty years.
The population losses faced by Germany reflect a trend occurring across Europe--The European Union’s statistics agency Eurostat has predicted an overall drop in Europe’s population of 7 million people by 2050.
The demographic decline coincides with a dramatic drop in Christian religious belief and a consequent rejection of Christian morality and emphasis on the benefits of family life and children.

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This is funny. Up until recently it was Spain which had the lowest birthrate in Europe. But obviously this has changed not because Spaniards are having more children but because immigrants are having their children here. We were better off having the lowest birthrate. I know that it sounds bizarre, but in a perverted and evil way you may consider it a good sign that non-Germans are not flooding Germany with children. However unrealistic this probably is, since most likely of those 1.36 children per woman only about 0.36 is native German.

Consider for a moment the claim here that in Germany "the birthrate has dropped so low that immigration numbers cannot compensate" and contrast it with this other claim on this news article where the chief of the economic office of the Spanish president says that "the population in Spain can reach 66 million without it being an outrageous population density and can assume the controlled entry of 200,000 immigrants each year".

In Spain they still keep linking immigration to economic growth and to the future of the social system and pensions. Germany and other countries are in this respect more degraded in the sense that they have already been there in the past.

However opposite views of a same problem, they are still linked in that people is being swindled with the issue of demography and birthrates.

Now, 66 million people in Spain is in my opinion a non sustainable figure. Since ancient times Spain has had a much low demography for the size of the country. This is no wonder. Natural resources here are limited.

I have always loved the open spaces that we still enjoy here, as soon as you drive a few kilometers into the central plateau. The demography of countries like Germany, England, Italy and especially The Lowlands are madness in my mind.

I am not suggesting that there is not a real demographic problem due to low birthrates in the native European populations. However, demographics should be kept at levels of sustainability and not subject to the designs of the Anglo-Saxon Liberal Economicism.

A Europe without immigrants would be a Europe depleted of a part of the population that is at this moment producing wealth. But this wealth is realtive to their consumption of public services. And further, in a future, they will also be a mass of beneficiaries of an ever dwindling social services and public resources.

All things consider, a future post-immigration Europe would not be a pleasant place in terms of the material wel-being that we are used to. But this is not the end of the world as post-war Europe was not one either. A few generations would have to sacrifice themselves for the future, but there would be hope for a future.

Scary as it may look to some, the alternative to it is to continue degrading in the current state of things. And that is not something that promises a brighter future. One the contrary, it is worse. It has already been tested that the generations of immigrants who have followed to those who arrived as first immigrant generation, fall in the same birthrate trends as native Europeans. The result will be as above but with with nearly twice as many people to squeeze a draining box of social resources.. as well as natural resources.

However you look at it, the conflict is served.
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