Britain's present could be Ireland's future

[donTomas]

Huge areas of Britain have become foreign colonies. That could be tomorrow\'s Ireland, too

People in Britain and Ireland have taken a secret, Self-Denying Ordinance not to discuss immigration or race in any meaningful way.

What most struck me while watching BBC television news reports of the Christmas sales in the West End of London, was firstly obvious, and secondly, it was something that no-one with the BBC would ever have remarked on. It was this. The shoppers -- and there were thousands of them -- were overwhelmingly of Asian or African origin. In the vast throngs of faces, there was barely a Caucasian face to be seen; and when there was, of course, that was no guarantee that it was British.
Actually, I didn't need to see those TV pictures of the London Boxing Day sales to be aware that London has undergone a demographic transplant unlike that experienced by any European capital since the Fall of Constantinople in 1483. A couple of years ago, while on a trip to London, I bought a rover-ticket, which gave me unlimited travel on the public transport system. I wandered for miles upon miles through the east end, which bore the blitz in 1940-41, which is the heart of Cockney culture, with the Pearly Kings and Queens and which is, of course, the setting for the television soap.

But in Whitechapel or Stepney, to judge from the shops and the faces and the clothes and the people around me, I could have been in a Middle Eastern city. What does "England" mean to these people? Do they know about the months that an earlier generation spent in the air-raid shelters? Do they know about the 40,000 Londoners who perished in the winter of 1940-41? Do they know anything about the history of the streets they now occupy, and could they ever be prevailed upon to care about it?
These areas were once home to the large Jewish population of London, who have since moved on, as did the Huguenots before them, and the Flemings before them. Like all great cities, London had always attracted immigrants, who have generally become assimilated into the population around them.

The immigration policies of recent British governments -- though "non-policies" would be a more accurate description of that mixture of cowardice, political timidity, abject conformism and flatulent piety that has underlain the British approach to this matter -- have now inverted the pyramid. Huge areas of Britain have become foreign colonies, which demographically and culturally dominate the native populations. This is not the much-cherished melting-pot of liberal ideologists: it is more like the race movements into Australia and the Americas from Europe, with the Aboriginals nearly as helpless as the wretched natives of those former colonies.

This time, it's a voluntary helplessness. People in Britain (and now Ireland) apparently have taken a secret, Self-Denying Ordinance not to discuss immigration or race in any meaningful way. The silence surrounding one most obvious transformation, that of Britain's Premier League, is one symptom of this. Perhaps a majority of players in any good English team will be of at least part-African origin. This is surely worth commenting on, for many reasons, not the least of them being the rapid disappearance of role models for white working-class boys; but around this issue, there is nothing but a prickly silence. So that when Michel Platini wondered about the relationship between: (a) some hypothetical Liverpool team of the future consisting entirely of Africans, and managed by a Brazilian, and (b) the traditional Merseyside community, he was roundly denounced by the soccer correspondent of 'The Daily Telegraph' -- no less -- for his implicit racism.

So is it better to say absolutely nothing when rapid racial changes occur in a society, in the hope that harmony will result? For maybe, simple discretion is better than noisy dissension, and a dutiful and prudent media silence on this topic actually furthers the process of peaceful assimilation. Well, firstly, that begs the question about whether a peaceful assimilation is either possible, or is even being sought, by many of the immigrants to Britain. And secondly, what damage is meanwhile being done to the credibility of the media? If journalists can tacitly agree to stay mute in the face of such clearly visible phenomena, who can then believe them on other, less obvious issues?

Is this of any interest to Ireland? Well, yes, not least because what happens in Britain today is what will usually happen in Ireland tomorrow; and of course, the two islands share a common-travel area, in which lawful residence in one jurisdiction conveys an equal right to dwell in the other. Now, I have long since lost any belief in the courage of the Irish media to tackle the issue of immigration, other than by showing cheery pictures of Nigerian children in hurling helmets (usually captioned, "The New Irish"), and by intoning the usual ritualistic pieties from within the comfort zone of the left-liberal consensus created by our journalism schools.

Listen: it is easier and cheaper to get from London to Dublin than to get to Liverpool or Newcastle. The shots on the BBC news from Boxing Day 2008 are just possibly merely a foretaste of RTE News on St Stephen's Day in 2018. So when the change comes, it'll be so fast, that you won't even know that it's happening: and then, it becomes then an irreversible fact. Just don't say no-one warned you: because, I did.

- Kevin Myers

[sachsenkoenig]

Sad but true if nothing is done.

[Strengthandhonour]

Originally Posted by donTomas

the Fall of Constantinople in 1483.

Got confused there for a second.
But I think the future of Ireland could be the future of just about every place in Europe.

[Dvx]

Make no mistake, my fellow resistants.
In few generations This is the Future of Europe:

[Kernunnos]

What makes me shudder is the arrogance with which most people defend the very invasion they are subject to.

[Kernunnos]

well, we had a reaction but I'm afraid it will be swept away with the usual system, mass media indoctrination and treason by freemasons and anglosphere agents in our government.

To undrstand what is a stake one should read Lindon LA Rouche, which is branded ad a nutcase by the "major " newspapers.

[Jacob Le Bin]

Originally Posted by Kernunnos

To undrstand what is a stake one should read Lindon LA Rouche, which is branded ad a nutcase by the "major " newspapers.

Lyndon LaRouche? He's the Neo-Cons' worst enemy. His closest French collaborator is Jacques Cheminade, the president of Solidarité et Progrès. Sorry, it's only in French, but it's one of the most interesting sites I found lately.

[Dvx]

Originally Posted by Kernunnos

What makes me shudder is the arrogance with which most people defend the very invasion they are subject to.

They've been taught that way and their personalities are programmed to the defend the system now.

Schools are already full of aliens who speak the national language perfectly, and those will have important positions in society which will confirm and accelerate the process.

There will be alien judges, doctors, lawyers, politicians.

People won't be able to be racist anymore, because every European will have alien friends, and those friendship feelings will block the natural human protective anti-xenos.

I would say "in a few years" but I would be lieing. As a matter a fact, it is already impossible to get rid off these new «europeans».

Only a great apocalyptical change would make it possible. Where would be deported the mulattos, sons of Africans+Europeans? And how?

The first country doing that would be bombed by a massive NATO/UN operation and Nationalist leaders would be brought to Hague and sentenced to live in a prison for the rest of the life.

It is an ugly picture, and pessimistic. Then someone please show me that things can turn to be better, because I still have Faith.

[Tuco]

Originally Posted by Dux

Schools are already full of aliens who speak the national language perfectly, and those will have important positions in society which will confirm and accelerate the process.

There will be alien judges, doctors, lawyers, politicians.

People won't be able to be racist anymore, because every European will have alien friends, and those friendship feelings will block the natural human protective anti-xenos.

I would say "in a few years" but I would be lieing. As a matter a fact, it is already impossible to get rid off these new «europeans».

Only a great apocalyptical change would make it possible. Where would be deported the mulattos, sons of Africans+Europeans? And how?

I can't agree more, I was thinking about that too. i think some European countries already reached a point of no return..

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Pirate

I can't agree more, I was thinking about that too. i think some European countries already reached a point of no return..

Except for Britain, France and Germany comes to mind.

[hermeticist]

Originally Posted by Kernunnos

What makes me shudder is the arrogance with which most people defend the very invasion they are subject to.

It's not one "they," and this may be part of the key to understanding the phenomenon. The working-class people whose communities have been undergoing these demographic transformations are not articulate and more importantly, lack access to mass media so as to get their point of view across. The polite talking heads on television and the liberal commentators and journalists for the newspapers and weeklies live in relative seclusion to these changes and in any case have a different mindset altogether, which they pass off as majority opinion.

For those English people still living in London, living as English people has become well-nigh impossible. And yet, perhaps with the benefit of hindsight, that things would turn out this way should have been clear half-a-century ago.

It is said that the USA will be the world's first post-Western society. Though it will be cold comfort to Americans of European descent, some European countries are hard on their heels.

[a.squiggles]

Originally Posted by Dux

It is an ugly picture, and pessimistic. Then someone please show me that things can turn to be better, because I still have Faith.

As rationalizing is a hobby of mine, here's how I keep myself from fear induced insomnia:

Some event will cause a drastic lowering in Western standards of living (here I'm hoping the economic crisis will actually *be* a crisis). This will increase competition among individuals. That will in turn increase tensions, causing the re-emergeance of tribal mentality and social fracture. Small rival groups will form.
As we are simple creatures, the way people look and other external markers (names, habits, pronaunciation) will play a major role in group formation - racially/culturaly homogeneous groups will be favoured. As the groups grow, become more cohesive and organized, rivalry between groups will become the focus. People like to be in the safety of numebers, and groups stay together best when they have a common enemy. Considering the ease with which we can divide along phenotypical differences and the historical and cultural connotations of "black" and "foreign", "minorities" will be easy to demonize and will become the default choice for public enemy #1.

Problem solved...or at least it has been rationalized away allowing me to sleep soundly

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by a.squiggles

allowing me to sleep soundly

Now why would you want to do that

[Gavril]

Originally Posted by Lutiferre

Except for Britain, France and Germany comes to mind.

You can stop pretending and put Denmark and Sweden on that list.

[Lutiferre]

Originally Posted by Gavril

You can stop pretending and put Denmark and Sweden on that list.

Yes, but at least in my experience the magnitude can't be compared.

[Jacob Le Bin]

Originally Posted by a.squiggles

Some event will cause a drastic lowering in Western standards of living (here I'm hoping the economic crisis will actually *be* a crisis). This will increase competition among individuals. That will in turn increase tensions, causing the re-emergeance of tribal mentality and social fracture. Small rival groups will form.
As we are simple creatures, the way people look and other external markers (names, habits, pronaunciation) will play a major role in group formation - racially/culturaly homogeneous groups will be favoured. As the groups grow, become more cohesive and organized, rivalry between groups will become the focus. People like to be in the safety of numebers, and groups stay together best when they have a common enemy. Considering the ease with which we can divide along phenotypical differences and the historical and cultural connotations of "black" and "foreign", "minorities" will be easy to demonize and will become the default choice for public enemy #1.

You just described what's happening right now.

[lupor]

Originally Posted by Savorgnan

You just described what's happening right now.

Oh really? I don't see it...

[Jacob Le Bin]

Originally Posted by lupor

Oh really? I don't see it...

That's what I see in France. What do you see in your country?

[a.squiggles]

Originally Posted by Savorgnan

You just described what's happening right now.

What's happening right now is that groups are falling apart. People are getting confused between what is real (essential outward signs: appearance, voice) and what is imaginary (status symbols, brand names, "subculture")....and even if that were not so: you don't really have to lift a finger to get fed nowadays - there is hardly any conflict or unavoidable selective pressure.

[Yago]

Originally Posted by Lutiferre

Yes, but at least in my experience the magnitude can't be compared.

Speaking of total numbers or of ratios?

Under normal circumstances it shouldn't take much to understand why a nation with a smaller population is more in danger from lower numbers of inmigrants, than another nation where immigrant numbers are higher (even in percentages) but the native population is also higher.

But that's under normal circumstances.