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England to squeeze in 10million more immigrants and children within 25 years

England will have to make room for 10million extra people in less than 25 years' time, official figures predicted yesterday.
The population is expected to top 60million by 2030 - as many as live in the whole of the UK now.
The rise is equivalent to a city the size of London, or the populations of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland put together.
Most of the new residents will be immigrants, who are already adding 191,000 a year to the population, according to current Government figures.


Their children are also likely to form a large part of the surge, as birthrates among newly-arrived groups are higher than among the existing population.
The figures, from the Office for National Statistics, brought further warnings from critics of large-scale immigration.

Sir Andrew Green of the Migrationwatch think- tank said: 'Some 70 per cent of this population increase will be a result of immigration. This is clearly unsustainable from the point of view of public services and infrastructure, and, even more importantly, from the point of view of the cohesion of society.'
The projections are based on population and immigration estimates from 2006, which put the number of people living in England that year at 50,763,000.The ONS says that figure is likely to pass the 55million mark in 2017, and by 2031 England will be home to 60,432,000.
The biggest rises in that period are expected to be in the South-East (nearly 1.6million more residents), the East (gaining 1.4million) and the capital (1.3million more Londoners).
Other regions will be less popular with immigrants and less subject to population pressures, the figures say. The North-East is expected to take little more than 200,000 extra people.




The statistics are the latest to suggest that Whitehall expects recent very high population increases to continue in the coming decades.
Last month, ONS figures said the population has risen by a million in just three years - a faster rate than when today's big cities took shape at the height of the Industrial Revolution in the 19th century.
Some Government-sponsored projections put the UK population as high as 100million by the end of this century.
The new arrivals will add to a growing housing crisis, with the Government struggling to meet existing demand for homes.
Its latest proposals to build a series of 'eco- towns' have already provoked protests from MPs and those alarmed that massive estates are going to spring up on their doorsteps.
The Department for Communities and Local Government says that a third of the number of new homes that need to be built are needed to house immigrants.
When this estimate is updated shortly, it is expected to say that at least 38 per cent of new homes will be built for immigrants.
Source : England to squeeze in 10million more immigrants and children within 25 years| News | This is London
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Or maybe we shouldn't squeeze these people in and they should just stay home.
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I don't think there's much hope for England, I just can see how England could somehow manage to survive this ethnocide on native European population.
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Maybe one day the insanity will stop. But it will be difficult and painful to get to that point.
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The people who rule this country will not be satisfied until we are as densely populated and as miserable as Bangladesh.
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Below the article, there's whole heap of comments by "Englishpeople" themselves:

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Thank Goodness for immigration without it the country would grind to a halt as at least they have a great work ethic.
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;_; They make susi cry.
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Below the article, there's whole heap of comments by "Englishpeople" themselves:
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The undead will rise? >_>
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Maybe these who comment are immigrants?
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Some of the more interesting quotations.

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Allowing the colonisation of this once great nation is treason but instead of punishing these ideologically driven fanatics, it is ordinary people who are in fact being criminalised for politically correct trivia.
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The unbelievable criminality of this passes beyond belief.
But it has to said and repeated again and again that the sheer inert passivity of the native English is the real issue here not the immigrants coming in.
There is very definitely something fundamentally wrong with English attitudes and the way they think. This is the main issue. But it does not alter the fact that the people promoting this colonisation are criminals, they just have not been charged yet.
Though I disagree that there's something fundamentally wrong with the way Englishpeople think.

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What cheerful news.
As we are powerless to stop this madness can I make a personal plea to all those coming over to at least make an effort to learn to speak English? I already feel like a stranger in my own country.
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I'm heading for retirement in a few years' time. Whilst on holiday in Portugal recently, I spotted a few reasonably priced properties, maybe I will finally have to accept that to retain any standard of living, I will have to spend my retirement abroad. I do not recognise this country any more.
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The status quo will remain - just the number of hard working English people will move to nicer, law abiding countries where you can still accidentally drop a few crumbs from a sausage roll on the ground and not be given a criminal record.
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Why does England "have to" squeeze in all these people?
What happens if we don't?
Will our country fall apart if we don't?
Insanity.
And as someone else says here I will seriously consider voting for ANY party who promise to stop this.
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It's a shame for people who flee here in terror (and even for other reasons), but we should put the people already here first and not take anyone, Geneva Convention or otherwise.
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WHY?

Doesn't this Government understand, there is no more room for any more spongers to live here. For God's sake we are barely surviving at the moment without more coming over.


The whole network is going to collapse. There must be something we can do to stop this.
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A very simple solution would be not to let anybody else in until we've managed to get rid of anybody who shouldn't be here, the infrastructure is put right so that the indigenous population get priority in all things and the benefit system is totally overhauled to ensure that people come to the England for the right reasons.
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Sorry but this is totally unacceptable. Action - hard action - has to be taken right now. Our borders must close immediately. The far right parties will be rubbing their hands at these horrific and alarming predictions.
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Big mistake. We don't have room. And walking into town now and hearing people speak foreign languages all around me, I can see we're becoming a minority in our own country.

I don't recognise this country any more.
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Vote for the party that vows to stop immigration.
KaloMatt, the comments overwhelmingly are against the issue so please don't post just the ones that are for it ^^

The consensus seems that this is a bad thing for England and that somethign must be done, but as to what? Who knows.
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I'm heading for retirement in a few years' time. Whilst on holiday in Portugal recently, I spotted a few reasonably priced properties, maybe I will finally have to accept that to retain any standard of living, I will have to spend my retirement abroad. I do not recognise this country any more.
That's assuming that the British government will still be able/willing to pay him a pension a few years down the line.
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Well they're screwing over those that contributed in my parents' generation. My parents contributed for nearly 50-60 years combined and they can't really claim much of their pension back, they don't get any increases. ;_; It's ridiculous that they contributed for so long and don't get anything back since they don't live in the UK anymore. I'd understand if they didn't contribute but they did.

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It's ridiculous that they contributed for so long and don't get anything back since they don't live in the UK anymore.
No offense, but this makes sense to me.
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No offense, but this makes sense to me.
How does it make sense? My parents contributed a part of their salary to the pension program. Fine. This works out to quite a bit of income since my mum worked nearly 30 years in the UK, for example. By contributing to the UK National Pension for 30 years, my mum isn't entitled to draw the income that she contributed to the system? That's just messed up point of view, in my opinion.

I'd understand if it was diminished slightly but she's still entitled to draw her pension for working those 30 years, isn't she?
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