Ahern: Integration of immigrants is a 'big' challenge

[Aptrgangr]

Ahern: Integration of immigrants is a 'big' challenge


04/05/2008 - 15:17:35

The Taoiseach Bertie Ahern has said that the integration of immigrants in Ireland is one of the country’s biggest challenges.

Speaking on RTE radio today, Mr Ahern said that integration of the “new Irish” should not be seen as a problem but as a challenge that has to be handled carefully.

“I don’t say this as a downside, there are many upsides to this, when I took over as Taoiseach 11 years ago 1.5% of the workforce of the country was new Irish, today it’s 14.8%,” he said.

“We shouldn’t see this as a problem but we must see it as a challenge – the integration of so much of the nations of the world, looking after the education, the new religions, the welfare, the extraordinary talents that many of these people bring. The challenges that some of them bring is going to be a big issue.”

Mr Ahern said that the integration of immigrants is a new issue for Ireland. He added: “This is an issue where we do not have any model. We have to be very careful how we handle it. If we get it right, there will be huge pluses for the country. If we get it half-right, it’ll create difficulty. If we don’t get it half-right, there’ll be huge problems.”

Another challenge facing Ireland is binge-drinking, according to the outgoing Taoiseach.

He said: “30% of the total occupancy of A&E’s in this country is made up with people who are off their head with drink. I’m not proud of that one. I think we have to challenge that one. There’s nothing wrong with drinking but there’s everything wrong with binge drinking. We have to change that attitude that people believe that you don’t drink six days but on the seventh you have to go out of your head. I think we have to get away from that and that’s big challenge for the future.”

Mr Ahern also praised what he termed the “very fine qualities” of his successor Brian Cowen.

“He is sharp as a razor,” he said. “He has a very fine intellect. He would grasp a brief three times quicker than me. I’d have to read it twice. I’d have to go through it maybe for longer hours... He’s highly intelligent. He’s a powerful speaker, better that I would ever dream of being.”

On whether he would fight the next General Election, Mr Ahern said he would decide that later.

“I always wanted to finish up where I started, being the local TD for Dublin Central... If the next general election was next year or the year after, then I would run. If the next election is in four years time then I probably wouldn’t run,” he said.

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[orieleye]

Originally Posted by Aptrgangr

Ahern: Integration of immigrants is a \'big\' challenge | BreakingNews.ie

Mass immigration is Ahern's legacy, an occurance that proves corruption at the highest level. The 'challenge' is a 'big issue' but not a 'problem'. He and his political confederates choose their language carefully. To him, these people were 'new Irish' the minute they arrived and easily assimilable, along with their new religions. But this hasn't been the experience elsewhere and of course the 'old Irish' weren't asked their opinion. What we will get from this political set is careful self-censorship to accompany the usual disaster that is multiculturism.

[Kernunnos]

Originally Posted by orieleye

Mass immigration is Ahern's legacy, an occurance that proves corruption at the highest level. The 'challenge' is a 'big issue' but not a 'problem'. He and his political confederates choose their language carefully. To him, these people were 'new Irish' the minute they arrived and easily assimilable, along with their new religions. But this hasn't been the experience elsewhere and of course the 'old Irish' weren't asked their opinion. What we will get from this political set is careful self-censorship to accompany the usual disaster that is multiculturism.

Lofty words are part of the masonic lingo that is used to make people accept cataclysms as an ordinary thing: it is just psychological war, a brainwashing that is in the typical modus operand of freemasonry.

They change things imperceptibly, and with the consent of the duped populations they rule from behind the scenes, with the softest available kind of power, the power of occult persuasion.

[Errigal]

What a stupid man he is. He is arguing for a policy he clearly does not understand and couldn't possible comprehend the motivations of those who advocate population replacement.

[Monolith]

“I don’t say this as a downside, there are many upsides to this, when I took over as Taoiseach 11 years ago 1.5% of the workforce of the country was new Irish, today it’s 14.8%,” he said.

Terrible...

[BeornWulfWer]

It will be far from terrible if in the next 11 years it doubles.

[LoKi]

Mass third world immigration into the Ireland as all West Europe is a racial and political policy driven by ideology, hatred, and the desire for power, not economics. The economic impact of these immigrants is small, and the influx of immigrants continued pretty much unabated through unemployment and other economic downturns. This argument might have had some validity in the 50s or perhaps 60s, but the real flood began fairly recently and is largely driven by decades of American propaganda glorifying multiculturalism, diversity, and 'Civil Rights'.

[wilpuri]

Originally Posted by LoKi

Mass third world immigration into the Ireland as all West Europe is a racial and political policy driven by ideology, hatred, and the desire for power, not economics. The economic impact of these immigrants is small, and the influx of immigrants continued pretty much unabated through unemployment and other economic downturns. This argument might have had some validity in the 50s or perhaps 60s, but the real flood began fairly recently and is largely driven by decades of American propaganda glorifying multiculturalism, diversity, and 'Civil Rights'.

There is definately the element of European elites aping their American counter-parts. "No civil rights movement in Finland? What a disgrace! Quick, import a disadvantaged, preferrably brown-complexioned, minority!"

[Errigal]

Originally Posted by wilpuri

There is definately the element of European elites aping their American counter-parts. "No civil rights movement in Finland? What a disgrace! Quick, import a disadvantaged, preferrably brown-complexioned, minority!"

For many people it really is that childish. They learn that the American civil rights struggle of Martin Luther King was one of the great events in human history and that Ireland or Finland is missing out on all the fun and excitement.

I'm convinced that one of the factors which made such childish thinking predominant was the greater and greater influence of women in politics. It's not the only reason, to be sure, but women seem unable to see past the fun of having "little black babies" to dress-up and play with.

[wilpuri]

Originally Posted by Errigal

For many people it really is that childish. They learn that the American civil rights struggle of Martin Luther King was one of the great events in human history and that Ireland or Finland is missing out on all the fun and excitement.

Exactly. And it annoys me, that even with traditional, rooted minorities, they must pretend as if the setting is the same as in the deep South in the 1950's when the context is in fact completely different. Everything is reduced to a very simple tunnel-visioned view of good vs. evil, victim vs. oppressor.

I'm convinced that one of the factors which made such childish thinking predominant was the greater and greater influence of women in politics. It's not the only reason, to be sure, but women seem unable to see past the fun of having "little black babies" to dress-up and play with.

There is something deeply psychological about the involvement of women in the multicult. Die-hard feminists insist on importing the most chauvinistic of tribes for their 'enriching' effect, but remain completely silent over the abuse their womenfolk go through. First our feminists attempt to politically, socially and culturally emasculate their male compatriots, only to drool over abusive, sexist Arabs.

The patriarchy is the monopoly of the European man, it seems.

[Arthur Gordon Pym]

Originally Posted by wilpuri

There is something deeply psychological about the involvement of women in the multicult. Die-hard feminists insist on importing the most chauvinistic of tribes for their 'enriching' effect, but remain completely silent over the abuse their womenfolk go through. First our feminists attempt to politically, socially and culturally emasculate their male compatriots, only to drool over abusive, sexist Arabs.

The patriarchy is the monopoly of the European man, it seems.

I have been hearing this argument over and over again, coming from different "rightists" and nationalists, and expressed in a kind of rhetorical question: "Why is it that different die-hard feminists are hypersensitive to any manifestation of what they perceive as discrimination and sexism in European peoples, whereas they appear to remain - at least - indifferent, or even tolerant, when faced with similar phenomena in extra-European cultures, even when those occurrences in non-European cultures amount to such degree of discrimination and sexism unimaginable among European peoples?"

I previously used to put this question to myself as well, but now I tend to see it in a different light.

First of all, not all feminists are such. A rift occurred in their ranks in the last few years. Whilst the majority of them still keep on whining over sexism in European nations only, others have jumped into the Neocon bandwagon and became supportive of bringing "non-discrimination" and "women's rights" (in a way they see those things), to the whole planet, to all cultures indiscriminately. Thus the despicable bitch Emma Bonino, who was for many years very vocal in advocating free and illimited "right" to abortion in Europe, could be seen in Afghanistan, immediately after the US invasion, pontificating about the need to enforce "women's rights" in that country. A further rift occurred even within the ranks of the Neoconized feminists: while some of them accuse non-European people living in their own lands (especially in the Islamic world) of not living up to the standards of "women's rights", but remain blind to traditionalist societies of the immigrant communities in Europe (out of fear not to appear "racist"), others are speaking out about both (at least they are consistent).

But this sort of feminists is minoritarian: the majority of them still confine themselves to denounce sexist abuses in European societies only. The Anglospheric "white" societies are not spared either. Why is it so? Maybe their efforts should not be understood as so universal as they claim. This feminism (along with other -isms) is perhaps not about "women's rights" at all, but is only a method of destruction of the traditional European mores and societies, with the aim of subjugating of the minds of European people to the control of the highest spheres of the power elite. The method employed here may not work elsewhere. They may have one set of methods to subjugate European cultures, other for the subduing (I don't mean the military conquest, but conquest of "hearts and minds", whereon the world ruling elite is primarily intent) of the Islamic world, the third one designed for the Chinese etc. Universal is only the goal - that of reducing the entire population of the world into an amorphous mass of obedient chattel, after having broken all traditional and local ways of life and habits (religious etc), after having enforced "equality" everywhere in just about everything - but methods may differ depending on the local circumstances and peculiarities.