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By Ben Leapman, Home Affairs Correspondent
Last Updated: 1:48am GMT 25/11/2007

The population of the United Kingdom could soar to 90 million by the middle of the century, government statisticians will say this week.
Such an increase, driven by immigration and a rising birthrate, would add 50 per cent to today's population.
It would be the equivalent of building a new city the size of Sheffield every year and would put extreme pressure on housing, transport and public services.

The Tories will seize on the forecast, due to be unveiled on Tuesday, to press their case for a cap on immigration from outside the European Union.
Ministers will say the projection underlines the need for curbs that are already planned, including a new points-based system for screening migrant workers.
Earlier this month, the Government Actuary's Department (GAD) published data - first revealed in The Sunday Telegraph - showing how the population is likely to grow over coming decades. Its central forecast, known as the "principal projection", was that the number of residents would rise to 71.1 million by 2031 and 78.6 million by 2056.

This week, the GAD will release "variant projections", including high and low figures, showing the range of possible outcomes if three key factors - net migration, birthrate and average lifespan - turn out higher or lower than anticipated.
Statisticians, using calculations based on data already disclosed by the GAD, have been able to determine in advance the figures likely to be released on Tuesday.
In 2031, the GAD is expected to say, the UK population will be between 66 and 75 million. In 2056, it will be between 66 and 90 million.

Damian Green, the Conservative immigration spokesman, said: "All projections are uncertain, but the higher levels of these projections are truly alarming.
"It is clear that we would find it hugely difficult to cope with population growth at this rate. This shows why action to slow the growth of population is urgently required."
The GAD's forecasts are used in Whitehall to plan public spending, but its previous projections have proved far too low. Its previous estimates two years ago suggested the population in 2056 would be only 69.6 million, with a "high projection" of 82.6 million.
The rising of forecasts reflects the surge in immigration in the past two years, in particular from Poland and other new EU states in eastern Europe. Official statisticians now expect net immigration to run at 190,000 a year for years to come.

A baby boom among immigrant women has forced the GAD to raise its birthrate estimates. Women are now expected to have, on average, 1.84 babies each over a lifetime. The average for British-born women is 1.6 and for foreign-born women 2.2.
The highest birthrate in the UK is among Pakistani-born women, who have an average of 4.7 children each. Last year, 22 per cent of births in the UK were to foreign-born women.

The Office for National Statistics, which releases the information on behalf of the GAD, confirmed that the calculation system would be the same as that used for the last set of forecasts two years ago.
The wide gap between high and low projections illustrates the difficulty statisticians face in making accurate predictions on population growth.
A Home Office spokesman said: "We are committed to controlling migration in Britain's national interest. Our new points-based system will ensure that only those that Britain needs can come here to work and study. We have more staff working at our borders than ever before, and through the biometrics programme we are securing the UK's borders even further."

Migration pinch at British schools
Britain's schools are being pushed to breaking point by the rising tide of immigrant pupils, according to the National Association of Headteachers.
It said that many schools could not cope with the influx, which threatens to change the culture of some schools.
Since the EU expanded in 2004, about 170,000 children from Poland, 30,400 from Lithuania, 28,700 from Slovakia and 12,900 from the Czech Republic have joined classes in British schools.
UK population could soar to 90m - Telegraph
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How many new mosques is that?
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How many new mosques is that?
a mega mosque in every settlement in England.
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"And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green
And was the holy lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen

And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark Satanic mills

Bring me my bow of burning gold
Bring me my arrows of desire
Bring me my spears o'clouds unfold
Bring me my chariot of fire

I will not cease from mental fight
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
'Til we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land
'Til we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land"


It brings a tear to me eye.
What has the common people of England done to deserve this?
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Our beloved country is fast becoming a concrete multicultural HELL HOLE, little wonder that so many good people are leaving in their droves.
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My parents left but I'm coming back. ,_,
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Our beloved country is fast becoming a concrete multicultural HELL HOLE,
That is sad. Everywhere that ideology goes it tends to do that...

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Yes, it is little wonder, though it'd be better for them, as with any people suffering with the ideology of multi-culturalism, were they to stay where they are with their own. Strength in numbers and all, not dissimilar in a sense to how animals stay in herds for protection against predators. Occassionally, when under pressure, a member, or members of the herd will bolt for the momentary illusory seeming safety outside of the protective group, but, which in reality has merely made them easier to be preyed upon.

The predators in this instance being the multi-culturalists.
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That's bold, Susi.
Where there is courage, there is victory

I'd say it's necessary, because won't solve the problem if you run away from it.
It is also an act of patriotism.
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Do they have any statistics of where the immigrants will most likely be located. I believe that most immigrants tend to go to England and of those quite a large number to London (the immigrants from the "New europe" tend to be an exception to this).
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I'd say it's necessary, because won't solve the problem if you run away from it.
It is also an act of patriotism.
Thanks for your support of me... I don't think it's very brave, though...

I don't care if the country is going downhill or everything is going to blow up in our faces (oh rather!). It's still my nation and I still love it.

Thinking of immigrants, I would say (though my experience is quite limited) that most end up in council housing... a lot in London. I've seen though quite a few in the Manchester area (makes sense)... and I've even seen some in my grandma's village of around 7000 people (the fish and chip shop is now owned by asians and there's a curry shop there... A curry shop for Gods' sakes! Rar!).

My parents moved for economic reasons, afiak. My father was offered a better position at the university here with chances of advancement.. My mother and father still miss England, but my father says that he probably misses the England of 30 years ago and not today. If only we could put things back 30 years...
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